You know what else NSA's General Alexander was in charge of?

[Ichingcarpenter]

In 2003, he was named deputy chief of staff for intelligence for the U.S. Army. Under his command were the units responsible for Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse in Baghdad, Iraq.

Alexander became a three-star general. In 2005, Donald Rumsfeld, secretary of defense, named him Director of the National Security Agency


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse


Just a few bad apples......

[Fire Walk With Me]

1. With this and Summers possibly for Fed chief and Ray Kelly for DHS head

who needs enemies?

[DevonRex]

5. FWWM: "Impeach the Disaster Sadist Capitalist Obama!" see below...

See these threads for edification and hilarity.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3520179

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3519635

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. I want the neocons Rumsfeild

and the rest of the neocon cabal who are still running the show in the background.



I don't want Obama to leave
I want him to clean house.

[SamKnause]

7. Clean house ???

President Obama is not interested in cleaning house.

He is following his marching orders given by the corporate, military and Wall Street cartels.

He has proven his intentions time after time by the appointments and nominations he has made.

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. Say no more

But I really do know after pealing off the layers of this government onion.

But others may not so I have to take them through the layers.

[Th1onein]

31. DevonRex, what you say about FWWM is not true.

I think you know that, though, don't you?

[DevonRex]

32. Here are the exact quotes and links. Yes, he did.

FWWM: "Do you not understand disaster capitalism and the sadist?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023520179#post10


***DainBramaged (39,091 posts) asked THIS QUESTION
So, can any of you tell me what High crimes and Misdemeanors the President committed?

Fire Walk With Me answered THUSLY:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023519635#post23
Fire Walk With Me (38,830 posts)
23. Extra-judicial executions of US citizens suspected of terrorism, twice signing and once defending in

court the NDAA section 1021 which provides for the indefinite detention with neither trial nor representation of anyone in the world, with no statement specifically excluding US citizens (what's not written is an intended open door for abuse).

These two actions eliminate much or all of the following sections of the Bill of Rights:

1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 14th and perhaps even more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023497110

Then a over a year of domestic terrorism against the Occupy movement with nearly 8,000 peaceful activists arrested (zero banksters who nearly destroyed the economy and stole trillions of our tax dollars; see the current thread about Summers and the End Game memo).

Then lies about protection for whistle-blowers (his statements regarding such were recently redacted from an internet site). Then bullying of journalists and whistle-blowers. Strengthening the Bush regime surveillance state LIE.

The TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership), a corporate coup which will allow corporations to write legislation for our and several countries...!...is being discussed and voted upon in secret from the US public. It's not democracy when we don't have a say in what is foisted upon us.

How about letting the Bush regime war criminals WALK and on the same day the exposer of war crimes Manning is jailed for decades, Obama's DOJ set about gaining immunity for the Bush regime?

Where is the outrage?

[Th1onein]

33. You are interpreting his words to mean something other than what they mean.

And I think that you know that, too.

[99th_Monkey]

2. The entire US intel apparatus is a den of vipers.

pigging out on the public tit, big time.

[WillyT]

3. K & R !!!

[Hydra]

4. State sanctioned

Across administrations.

The only way to deny it now is to be in denial.

[bvar22]

8. Truly a Bi-Partisan endeavor.

This was NOT an "issue" for discussion during the 2012 Presidential Campaign Season because BOTH Political Parties are in 100% agreement on this.

[Hydra]

10. I always think of Carlin's bit when I hear about the joys of bipartisanship:

"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."

[Ocelot]

19. Carlin was the 20th century's Mark Twain

More than a comedian, a bona fide philosopher & a prophetic one at that.

[Hydra]

20. Welcome to DU!

I think he was clear eyed and not afraid to talk to us about it. His whole bit about the first Iraq war was one of the first things I saw by him, and he was completely correct. We weren't supposed to think of it that way, of course- it was UN-Patriotic!

Enjoy your stay, and mind the trolls- they're getting vicious and desperate.

[Ocelot]

23. Thanks for the welcome

I confess I've been lurking & reading here for some time. Yeah, I've seen what's been going on, it's not pretty.

[Hydra]

29. Great! I lurked for a long time before I felt like talking

And good that you know what's going on. Luckily we're at the point where it's pretty transparent.

[kentuck]

9. Why didn't someone tell the President?

Obviously he did not know that?

[David Krout]

11. Why didn't Obama appoint a liberal to the NSA?

Or at least not this Alexander torture-commander?

[MannyGoldstein]

12. The incompetence is epic

Or evil.

Pick one, I guess. Or both.

[Hydra]

21. During the Bush Admin, I never bought the "stupid" or "incompetent"

It was definitely evil. This Admin neither stupid nor incompetent, despite some rather lame attempts to suggest that.

[kentuck]

14. He has been spying since at least 2001...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_B._Alexander

As a one-star general, Alexander headed the Army Intelligence and Security Command, where in 2001 he was in charge of 10,700 spies and eavesdroppers worldwide. In the words of James Bamford who wrote his biography for Wired, "Alexander and the rest of the American intelligence community suffered a devastating defeat when they were surprised by the attacks on 9/11." Alexander's reaction was to order his intercept operators to begin to monitor the email and phone calls of American citizens who were unrelated to terrorist threats, including the personal calls of journalists.[1]

In 2003, he was named deputy chief of staff for intelligence for the U.S. Army. Under his command were the units responsible for Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse in Baghdad, Iraq. Testifying to the Senate Armed Services Committee, Alexander called the abuse "totally reprehensible" and described the perpetrators as a "group of undisciplined MP soldiers".[8] Mary Louise Kelly, who interviewed him later for NPR, said that because he was "outside the chain of command that oversaw interrogations in Iraq", Alexander was able to survive with his "reputation intact".[5]

In 2013, the National Security Agency was revealed by whistle-blower Edward Snowden, to be secretly spying on the American people with FISA approved survelance programs such as PRISM and XKeyscore.

[Phlem]

15. Makes one wonder

What labels are for anymore since both parties align with each other out side of the show that's put on for the rest of us.

-p

[Ocelot]

16. Nice catch

Well, Alexander should work extremely well with John Roberts (who has basically the rest of his life to choose all the secret NSA judges he wants).

Why the hell are Obama, Pelosi, Feinstein & other Democrats enabling this stuff? It's going to get our party into a lot of trouble in the 2016 elections...

[zeemike]

17. Old neocons never die.

They just get promoted to higher positions.

I suppose he was appointed to the NSA to bring "enhanced rendition" to the USA...

[G_j]

18. well if Rumsfeld trusts you..

what's not to trust?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. I'm sure General Alexander will turn himself in and bravely face 35 years imprisonmnet.

Oh, wait...it's just torture, not whistle blowing.

[Ichingcarpenter]

24. Can you hear me now?

[NealK]

25. K&R

[sabrina 1]

26. Too bad about the decision to 'look forward' rather than prosecute War Criminals.

Imagine if the country learned that torture IS a crime and that those in charge of it will be punished? Imagine if we went after torturers the way we go after Whistle Blowers?

Then imagine who might be in all of these powerful positions currently occupied by war mongers and how different this country would be.

[grasswire]

27. Alexander was Rumsfeld's special protege.

And Alexander now has his own separate military forces. He is more powerful than the president of the United States because he has (or can create a new, improved ) dossier on every person.

[Catherina]

28. I had no idea. K&R! n/t

[leveymg]

30. Being compromised himself gives him a personal stake in the cover up.

Do you believe anyone gets appointed to such positions of public trust, otherwise?