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How much do you know about religion? (Original Post) MoonRiver Aug 2013 OP
I know that the three major religions Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #1
+1 XemaSab Aug 2013 #2
Knowledge is power, MoonRiver Aug 2013 #3
15/15 XemaSab Aug 2013 #6
jews and atheist/agnostics score best on the quiz burnodo Aug 2013 #5
I am atheist and only 80%. I should have done better. n/t RebelOne Aug 2013 #12
I'm not in those groups and got all 15 questions Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #24
Anti-theist here, scored 14/15. Missed the last question. stopbush Aug 2013 #127
Nominally Jewish and truly lost religion nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #150
It says something about a tradition of asking questions. aquart Aug 2013 #156
Yep, that's pretty much the bottom line of it all IMO too. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #11
don't do nuance, huh? arely staircase Aug 2013 #79
9/15, I guess pretty well... PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #4
I got 14/15. MoonRiver Aug 2013 #7
Gah. I mixed up the first and second great awakenings. Recursion Aug 2013 #8
Same here. (nt) PotatoChip Aug 2013 #96
Never heard of either one. aquart Aug 2013 #153
100%. Know thy enemy. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #9
I scored in the top 16% and I'm not religious in the least, from what I've RKP5637 Aug 2013 #10
14 out of 15 surrealAmerican Aug 2013 #13
Same here. Being raised an atheist probably has something to do with my score. GliderGuider Aug 2013 #180
15/15 Bonobo Aug 2013 #14
93% due to my life long study of safeinOhio Aug 2013 #15
15/15 quaker bill Aug 2013 #16
+1 grantcart Aug 2013 #130
me too n/t catrose Aug 2013 #176
struggled with the great awakening question demwing Aug 2013 #178
early American Lit quaker bill Aug 2013 #181
Dang, missed one. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #17
I'm agnostic - you'll occasionally find me in a church TBF Aug 2013 #18
100%. Only the last question was remotely Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #19
15/15. Arkansas Granny Aug 2013 #20
I know enough to stay away from it... 99Forever Aug 2013 #21
I practice, and I believe you demwing Aug 2013 #177
Atheist Brewinblue Aug 2013 #22
Yeah, I struggled some with that one. MoonRiver Aug 2013 #30
Nice, thank you for the insult blueamy66 Aug 2013 #43
Do you actually believe that a cracker turns into flesh, suspending the laws of physics and reality? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #75
it's actually none of your business blueamy66 Aug 2013 #88
What do I believe about what? That a cracker turns into flesh? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #93
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #97
Juror #6 really summed it up nicely, rug. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #102
I believe that I posted...."thanks for the insult" blueamy66 Aug 2013 #110
You're right. Faith could care less about reality. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #112
Bingo. Quixote1818 Aug 2013 #123
whatever.... blueamy66 Aug 2013 #158
Whatever? cleanhippie Aug 2013 #172
not quite... Ino Aug 2013 #189
Ever wondered why there are gluten-free communion wafers? If it turns into flesh, there's no gluten cleanhippie Aug 2013 #192
Yes. And wine is actually the blood. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #35
Yeah, they're a bit cannibalistic. Neoma Aug 2013 #37
Yeah - its called Transubstantiation Ruby the Liberal Aug 2013 #42
More than bizarre. It is sick. Like putting shrunken heads on poles. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #55
Are you saying that millions of Catholics are brainwashed? rug Aug 2013 #69
1) Yes, absolutely. 2) Somewhat -- enough to know about 1) BlueStreak Aug 2013 #105
Most Catholics don't even believe the doctrine Quixote1818 Aug 2013 #135
And then you have apologists who say things like "do you understand the doctrine?" cleanhippie Aug 2013 #78
I'll put you down as not understanding it. rug Aug 2013 #85
Put me down as not giving a shit what an apologist thinks. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #89
No, that's why you felt compelled to post. rug Aug 2013 #91
Keep trying, ruggie, you can beat that last-word compulsion. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #94
Which is, of course, why you made that post. rug Aug 2013 #100
Which is why you are unable to not hav the last word. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #106
I imagine we may all agree that civility is not predicated on any religion... merely on the person. LanternWaste Aug 2013 #196
It's only sick if you both reject it demwing Aug 2013 #179
Huh? BlueStreak Aug 2013 #182
That's puerile demwing Aug 2013 #184
The doctrine says it *IS* actually human flesh and blood. That is why it is sick. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #194
No, the doctrine says it is the substance of the Body and the Blood of Christ demwing Aug 2013 #198
I knew it because of a scene from HBO's Oz... shawn703 Aug 2013 #92
The reason I got that one is because I photograph a lot of 1st Communions Quixote1818 Aug 2013 #121
They do. I broke out in silly giggles the day they brought that up Warpy Aug 2013 #126
I don't know that much and I got 14 out of 15 cali Aug 2013 #23
Enough to know its based on ignorance and lies. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #25
You answered 15 out of 15 questions correctly for a score of 100%. xchrom Aug 2013 #26
Nimby bearssoapbox Aug 2013 #27
15/15 etherealtruth Aug 2013 #28
You answered 14 out of 15 questions correctly for a score of 93%. Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #29
Atheist. 100%. MineralMan Aug 2013 #31
15 out of 15 but the questions were super easy Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #32
^That. knitter4democracy Aug 2013 #34
Apparently that whole cannibalism thing threw many people off. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #111
Got 10/15... 2naSalit Aug 2013 #33
It's good to sort of know in order to know about history in general though. Neoma Aug 2013 #39
I grew up 2naSalit Aug 2013 #40
No no, I meant down the line in history. Neoma Aug 2013 #44
Oh, true. eom 2naSalit Aug 2013 #45
15/15. Easy test. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #36
15/15 PADemD Aug 2013 #38
Easy quiz FrodosPet Aug 2013 #41
Interestingly... 2naSalit Aug 2013 #47
It's a trivia quiz Orrex Aug 2013 #57
Religion is anti-intellectual. 99Forever Aug 2013 #84
Not Anti but Pre or Prior To The River Aug 2013 #120
13 of 15. And I got the Catholic bread and wine thing wrong. Zorra Aug 2013 #46
Got 13 out of 15 correct... Humanist_Activist Aug 2013 #48
Really? Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #81
I heard about a survey in Ireland that said about 62% of them thought... Humanist_Activist Aug 2013 #134
I photograph a lot of 1st Communions so I got that one right Quixote1818 Aug 2013 #113
14/15. The last one stumped me. CJCRANE Aug 2013 #49
Probably because it occurred a couple hundred years before you were born. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #52
I guessed on that one and got it right Quixote1818 Aug 2013 #114
That was the only one I missed too, same reason, same wrong answer. 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #166
Missed two. Numbers 10 and 15.... socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #50
You answered 13 out of 15 questions correctly Coyotl Aug 2013 #51
15/15 NuclearDem Aug 2013 #53
Ditto ReasonableToo Aug 2013 #162
I got 12. This is like "how much do you know about Dungeons and Dragons BlueStreak Aug 2013 #54
I would probably do better with the D&D test PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #59
D&D has ruined / ended a lot less lives than religion BlueStreak Aug 2013 #65
Maybe 2/15. there were two constitutional questions. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #67
Agreed. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #68
The constitutional questions had the lowest scores. rug Aug 2013 #71
indeed, there are many Americans especially among fundamentalist Protestants who believe a bunch of Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #95
To be fair, The Pew Trust hootinholler Aug 2013 #72
Maybe you missed my point BlueStreak Aug 2013 #83
Yes Apparently I did, but hootinholler Aug 2013 #101
That might have been the case 2000 years ago. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #122
100 percent...... Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #56
Are there any "now much do you know about atheism" quizes online? Orrex Aug 2013 #58
Here's one, 25 questions. Not interactive though. rug Aug 2013 #74
Nice--thanks! Orrex Aug 2013 #80
Whoops--blogs are blocked while I'm at work Orrex Aug 2013 #109
Why would there be? Atheism is nothing more than a lack of belief in a god. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #82
Really? I've had decades of theists telling me what atheism "really" is. Orrex Aug 2013 #86
That is still happening right here. Theists tell non-believers here everyday what atheism really is. cleanhippie Aug 2013 #98
Heh Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #187
Because they do. rug Aug 2013 #87
if you scored 14 out of 15 - you scored better than 97% of the American public - that's scary Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #60
click on by religious affiliation Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #62
interestingly, it seems tied to how actively bounded and defined each group is MisterP Aug 2013 #128
Like many others here, I got 14 out of 15. drm604 Aug 2013 #61
Huh...well I'm surprised... pipi_k Aug 2013 #63
Non religious, 14 out of 15. I was unfamiliar with the First Great Awakening... DreamGypsy Aug 2013 #64
Discussion of religion was par for the course in geography and history classes back in the day. CBHagman Aug 2013 #66
87% ~ 13 of 15 Grey Aug 2013 #70
i know that i know nothing n/t BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #73
I "know" that it was probably "created" by clever men, who claimed to know SoCalDem Aug 2013 #76
It's the scurge of mankind. nt valerief Aug 2013 #77
93 percent arely staircase Aug 2013 #90
Religious Affiliation- doesn't list Pagan. Nor Pantheist. The questions were so general KittyWampus Aug 2013 #99
15/15 frogmarch Aug 2013 #103
Perfect. and an atheist, how common. I've found that the more one learn about Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #104
no trick questions?? handmade34 Aug 2013 #107
14/15. temporary311 Aug 2013 #108
Here is the full 32-question quiz, as originally administered in the Pew survey, for those who are kath Aug 2013 #115
got them all too treestar Aug 2013 #132
I got 0% on that one... Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #160
I got 100% right on that one too. It's too easy. MineralMan Aug 2013 #133
Atheist, 32 of 32 correct. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #141
31/32 ReasonableToo Aug 2013 #165
30/32 - missed that one and the faith alone one Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #188
Look who did the best on this Quixote1818 Aug 2013 #116
That it and it's gods are as phony as a $3 bill Submariner Aug 2013 #117
You shouldn't have done that to those nuns. Orrex Aug 2013 #119
not to mention the drunk priests RainDog Aug 2013 #164
14 out of 15 Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #118
That fact that I knew a bit means nothing about knowing about religion.. Tikki Aug 2013 #124
14 of fifteen -- thought Jewish Sabbath started on Saturday./ nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #125
That's the only one I missed, too. GoCubsGo Aug 2013 #161
87% treestar Aug 2013 #129
15/15 n/t RainDog Aug 2013 #131
15/15 ...... oldhippie Aug 2013 #136
93%. nyquil_man Aug 2013 #137
That must be an easy quiz krawhitham Aug 2013 #138
I got them all, though the last one was a guess LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #139
14/15 and I'm an Atheist. BlueJazz Aug 2013 #140
Asking when the Jewish Sabbath begins is a nasty trick question. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #142
15/15 with an unfair advantage Jim Lane Aug 2013 #143
13 out of 15 n/t malaise Aug 2013 #144
14/15. I've not heard of the First Great Awakening previously, guessed, and missed. TransitJohn Aug 2013 #145
To make it harder, one of the names was from the *second* great awakening 100 years later Recursion Aug 2013 #167
too easy. 100% eShirl Aug 2013 #146
15/15 LadyHawkAZ Aug 2013 #147
Not a lot tabasco Aug 2013 #148
I got one wrong... not bad nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #149
15/15 Another Atheist. wickerwoman Aug 2013 #151
15/15 but Jonathan Edwards was a guess. aquart Aug 2013 #152
15/15 - Atheist Paulie Aug 2013 #154
15/15 Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2013 #155
All questions answered correctly. They were super-easy. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #157
14 out of 15 LiberalElite Aug 2013 #159
15/15 Correct distantearlywarning Aug 2013 #163
13/15. nt City Lights Aug 2013 #168
14/15 truth2power Aug 2013 #169
I missed two Chiennoir54 Aug 2013 #170
14 of 15, missed question 8 HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 #171
15/15 -- 100% correct HeiressofBickworth Aug 2013 #173
14/15 - I missed the Nirvana question - but looking it up - I see that I wasn't completely off base Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #174
Yeah, I waivered on that one, too deutsey Aug 2013 #190
Jews, atheists and Mormons are particularly well informed eridani Aug 2013 #175
atheist here. Got 14 out of 15 but I guessed on many of them... Phentex Aug 2013 #183
Enough that it the term "religion" should be stricken as it is all "mythology" snooper2 Aug 2013 #185
15 out of 15 correct Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #186
The true religion "Nudism" was not represented there! RedCloud Aug 2013 #191
Not bad. ChazII Aug 2013 #193
15/15. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #195
15 of 15 Xyzse Aug 2013 #197

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
1. I know that the three major religions
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 07:17 AM
Aug 2013

are homophobic and misogynist. That's all I need to know to say, "No thanks."

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
24. I'm not in those groups and got all 15 questions
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:40 AM
Aug 2013

Since some of them were historical, I think it's due to when I went to school.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
150. Nominally Jewish and truly lost religion
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:22 PM
Aug 2013

It makes sense, people of the book and all that shit.

Plus I have always been interested in it at an academic level

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
10. I scored in the top 16% and I'm not religious in the least, from what I've
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 07:30 AM
Aug 2013

read many fundies, for example, know few true facts about religion, but rather follow what's been drummed into their heads and often is not factual.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
180. Same here. Being raised an atheist probably has something to do with my score.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 07:06 AM
Aug 2013

That and being raised outside the USA...

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
178. struggled with the great awakening question
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 07:01 AM
Aug 2013

But knew it wasn't Billy Graham. Flipped a coin, chose correctly. 15/15

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
181. early American Lit
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 07:11 AM
Aug 2013

in college back in the 1980s. I read some of his sermons. They make Jerry Falwell seem PC.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
21. I know enough to stay away from it...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:36 AM
Aug 2013

..and retain my sanity. I know those that practice it are prone to believing in bullshit.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
75. Do you actually believe that a cracker turns into flesh, suspending the laws of physics and reality?
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:18 PM
Aug 2013

If so, then what is the insult you perceive?

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
88. it's actually none of your business
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:27 PM
Aug 2013

I am not crazy.

Tell me what you believe that I can call you crazy too, clean hippie.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
93. What do I believe about what? That a cracker turns into flesh?
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:32 PM
Aug 2013

Uhm, no. To believe that the laws of physics, the natural laws of the universe, and reality as we know it are magically suspended when one eats a cracker can hardly be considered a sane idea.

And of its none of my business what you choose to believe, then why are you posting your beliefs and opinions on a discussion board?

Response to cleanhippie (Reply #93)

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
102. Juror #6 really summed it up nicely, rug.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:38 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Maybe for once you should listen to what people actually say.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
110. I believe that I posted...."thanks for the insult"
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:49 PM
Aug 2013

And religion isn't about the laws of physics or the natural laws of the universe or reality....it's about faith.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
189. not quite...
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:07 PM
Aug 2013

Reality is suspended when the priest mumbles over the wafers & wine -- that's when the "miracle" takes place, not when it's eaten. The priest has to eat any magically-enhanced wafers not used in the Communion. Can't have Jesus' body just lying around yannow!

I got 13/15 correct... atheist here!

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
192. Ever wondered why there are gluten-free communion wafers? If it turns into flesh, there's no gluten
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:45 PM
Aug 2013

So how is it that believers who are gluten intolerant/sensitive would need a gluten-free cracker if it turns into th flesh of Jesus?


 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
55. More than bizarre. It is sick. Like putting shrunken heads on poles.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:55 AM
Aug 2013

It is amazing to me that millions of people can be so brainwashed that they don't even regard transubstantiation as the slightest bit twisted.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
69. Are you saying that millions of Catholics are brainwashed?
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:08 PM
Aug 2013

Do you even understand the doctrine?

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
105. 1) Yes, absolutely. 2) Somewhat -- enough to know about 1)
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:42 PM
Aug 2013

What is your definition of brainwashing? Do you have a different use of that word I'm not familiar with?

Here's what Webster says: "a forcible indoctrination to induce someone to give up basic political, social, or religious beliefs and attitudes and to accept contrasting regimented ideas"

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
135. Most Catholics don't even believe the doctrine
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:16 PM
Aug 2013

They just go to Church because their family has done it for years and ignore most of the BS. I know because I am friends with about three dozen Catholics.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
78. And then you have apologists who say things like "do you understand the doctrine?"
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:21 PM
Aug 2013

Indoctrination is the more apt descriptive term.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
85. I'll put you down as not understanding it.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:25 PM
Aug 2013

But that's because I give you the benefit of the doubt.

Meanwhile, do you say Catholics are brainwashed or indoctrinated? Pick your poison.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
89. Put me down as not giving a shit what an apologist thinks.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:28 PM
Aug 2013

Indoctrinated, brainwashed...

Pick whatever shoe fits.

Have a nice day, ruggie. Got a handle on that must-have-the-last-word compulsion yet?

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
94. Keep trying, ruggie, you can beat that last-word compulsion.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:34 PM
Aug 2013

Keep at it though. Have you tried praying for help?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
100. Which is, of course, why you made that post.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:37 PM
Aug 2013

You need a hobby. I'll find some smiley cites for you.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
106. Which is why you are unable to not hav the last word.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:43 PM
Aug 2013

You need a purpose. I hear your religion has a child-raping priest problem. Dealing with that would be more productive.
Then again, if you don't care about that, smiley sites are cool

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
196. I imagine we may all agree that civility is not predicated on any religion... merely on the person.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 01:38 PM
Aug 2013

I imagine we may all agree that civility is not predicated on any religion... merely on the person.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
182. Huh?
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:59 AM
Aug 2013

No. Eating bread and telling everybody that is actually a man's flesh is sick. Drinking wine and saying it is a man's blood is sick.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
184. That's puerile
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:42 AM
Aug 2013

If you don't believe it, it's just a story. Go show the same disdain for Stephen King.

if you do believe it, and accept it...well, it may be sick to others, but it wouldn't be sick to you. It's not cannibalism, after all. People eat flesh all the time. People eat blood all the time. Those who do, don't think it's sick. If you're squeamish about human flesh, just remember that Jesus is supposed to be God. Not human at all... God-meat may be delicious. Better than chicken even...

It's only sick if you believe it to be actually human flesh and blood, and you reject the ceremonial consumption of real human flesh and blood. I highly doubt that the former applies to you.

So why get so worked up?

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
194. The doctrine says it *IS* actually human flesh and blood. That is why it is sick.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 01:28 PM
Aug 2013

If you are saying that most Catholics don't really take the doctrine seriously, and therefore aren't really sick, you are probably correct about that. Indeed, a great many people who go through the motions of appearing religious don't actually adhere to the official rules of their club.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
198. No, the doctrine says it is the substance of the Body and the Blood of Christ
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 02:06 PM
Aug 2013

Literally, not symbolically.

"Substance" means it's inner nature. In other words, the wafer and wine appear to be the same (tastes the same, smells the same, feels the same, looks the same), but becomes and possesses the same potency and substance as the body and blood of God.

From the Council of Trent : "conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood – the species only of the bread and wine remaining – which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation"

Note the Body and Blood capitalization, and the use of the word "species" which, in this context, means "the outward appearance"

I don't care if you believe it (I don't) or not, but your understanding of the doctrine is off, and your reaction seems exaggerated.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
92. I knew it because of a scene from HBO's Oz...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:30 PM
Aug 2013

Groves: Wait, Father, maybe I'm a convert.
Mukada: You can't become a Catholic just to get out of the hole. Come on.
Groves: No, no, wait. I've been reading a lot since I got here about different faiths and yours is pretty nifty.
Mukada: Catholicism is nifty?
Groves: You have that whole mystical transabstentiation bit going.
Mukada: That's right. The Eucharist becomes the body of Christ.
Groves: So you're actually eating his flesh and drinking his blood.
Mukada: That's right.
Groves: Now how can I not get behind a religion like that?

Mukada was the resident Catholic priest, while Groves was a prisoner whose crimes consisted of cannibalism.

I wish I could find a video clip of the scene where Groves was given communion.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
121. The reason I got that one is because I photograph a lot of 1st Communions
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:28 PM
Aug 2013

I asked when should the photo be taken and the Nuns told me "When the wafer touches the tong". I was thinking WTF? But that makes for a horrible shot??? They explained to me that Jesus was literally going into their body. Anyway, I hated how it looked when their tong was sticking out so I purposely miss most of the shots and try and get the kid just standing in front of the Priest. No one ever complains because they know it's hard to have perfect timing catching the kids tong sticking completely out.

My question is, does Jesus get pooped out of all these 3rd graders the next day?

Warpy

(111,148 posts)
126. They do. I broke out in silly giggles the day they brought that up
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 02:20 PM
Aug 2013

and that was my last year in Catholic school.

True believers certainly have to swallow a lot of nonsense, literally as well as figuratively. I could never do it, myself.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
23. I don't know that much and I got 14 out of 15
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:40 AM
Aug 2013

Interesting that atheists/agnostics did so well on this quiz. second only to Jews.

Ms. Toad

(33,996 posts)
29. You answered 14 out of 15 questions correctly for a score of 93%.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:19 AM
Aug 2013

The last question was a total guess - and I guessed incorrectly.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
31. Atheist. 100%.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:40 AM
Aug 2013

This test is far too easy, really. What is amazing is how few people know the answers.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
34. ^That.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:48 AM
Aug 2013

Of course, I went to an evangelical Christian college and have spent time studying and/or teaching various religious texts since...

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
33. Got 10/15...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:46 AM
Aug 2013

But I don't believe in organized religions and am not all that invested in whatever the historical details they espouse. I keep my own counsel with my own spirit and keep it to myself.

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
40. I grew up
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:02 AM
Aug 2013

being beat over the head with uber-religiosity and have purposefully forgotten a lot-which was rather easy since I didn't believe what I was being told. So I guess I'm glad I didn't get all the answers correctly. I also think that there were more questions regarding christianity than other religions which made me feel that the whole exercise was a bit slanted.

And I am certain that some of what religions tell is historical to some degree but most of it is myth.

People will believe what they want to believe whether coerced or not.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
44. No no, I meant down the line in history.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:13 AM
Aug 2013

Like how Russians killed each other for signing the cross across their chest wrong. Two fingers instead of three? Throw him in a pit! That sort of history is always interesting.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
41. Easy quiz
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:07 AM
Aug 2013

"You answered 15 out of 15 questions correctly for a score of 100%"

What is disturbing is some of the responses from people who feel that it is unimportant to understand one of, if not the, most powerful motivators of human actions and attitudes.

People are anti-intellectual to the point of destructive ignorance.

C'mon folks: widespread curiosity and understanding are the only chance for survival we have.

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
47. Interestingly...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
Aug 2013

the incorrect answers I had were relative to christian stuff not the "other" religions of the world. It would have been a more interesting quiz if there were fewer questions related to that belief system... bet there would have been fewer perfect scores.

I do agree that people need to have a better knowledge base rather than the myopic perspective that most of this culture clings to.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
57. It's a trivia quiz
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:00 AM
Aug 2013
What is disturbing is some of the responses from people who feel that it is unimportant to understand one of, if not the, most powerful motivators of human actions and attitudes.
I agree with you, but this quiz is a poor measure of anything but a fairly shallow base knowledge of religious tidbits. Aside from the question about transubstantiation, there is little to engage the quiz-taker beyond this handful of factoids. A deeper discussion of comparative religion would be more useful in understanding "one of, if not the, most powerful motivators of human actions and attitudes." Of course, such a discussion won't fit neatly in an online quiz, so we're left with a trivia contest.

14/15, by the way.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
84. Religion is anti-intellectual.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:24 PM
Aug 2013

To the point of making otherwise thinking human being believe in "magic."

No thanks, I have NO interest in listening to the PROPAGANDA put out by those responsible for a VERY large part of the atrocities and suffering on this planet. Did you notice that this "test" ignored that?

The River

(2,615 posts)
120. Not Anti but Pre or Prior To
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:24 PM
Aug 2013

Religion is pre-rational. As humans evolved we passed through
an archaic epoch (6 mill BC to 200K BC) a "magical" epoch (200K to 10K BC)
the "mythical" epoch (10K BC to 1.5K BC) and are currently in the "mental" or "scientific" epoch.

Belief in god(s) (primarily embedded in nature) was "magical", much like young children believe in Santa, Easter Bunny, etc. The "Mythic" age simply codified those beliefs. Now, science is beginning to expose the magical thinking for what it is and there is a huge backlash against science and intellectualism. We see that in today's GOP.

The evolution of human consciousness has barely begun.


BTW, 15/15



Zorra

(27,670 posts)
46. 13 of 15. And I got the Catholic bread and wine thing wrong.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
Aug 2013

So much for 8 years of brutal forced education with priests and nuns shoving Catholic dogma down my throat.

Did I forget, or is it logical disconnect?

And why didn't they have a Pagan/Other category?

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
48. Got 13 out of 15 correct...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:25 AM
Aug 2013

I was thrown off by the Jewish Sabbath begins on Friday and extends into Saturday(answered Saturday), read that question too quickly.

The only one I didn't know was the last, totally guessed, and guessed wrong.

Atheist(ex-Catholic) by the way, and to be fair, I think over half of Catholics would get the transubstantiation question wrong too.

Ms. Toad

(33,996 posts)
81. Really?
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:22 PM
Aug 2013

I'm not a Catholic, but my spouse was. Early in our marriage we alternated between Mass and Friends Meeting. The Mass is very clear - even to someone who has not had any specific training in Catholicism. I also remember bits and pieces from conversations years ago about that being why none of the remnants were permitted to be thrown away, and why one was not allowed to bite the communion wafer.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
134. I heard about a survey in Ireland that said about 62% of them thought...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:14 PM
Aug 2013

the wine and bread thing was symbolic. It was a while ago, and confined to one country, but consider that you are lucky if half of self proclaimed Catholics go to Mass on anything approaching a regular basis in most western, hell, in most countries, I doubt numbers vary that widely from what is displayed in Ireland.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
113. I photograph a lot of 1st Communions so I got that one right
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:00 PM
Aug 2013


They always want me to take the photo right when the wafer touches the tong which I think looks ridiculous! I asked why it was so important and they said it was a sacred moment when Jesus was literally going into their body.

Still think it makes for a horrible photo and Jesus ends up getting pooped out of one hell of a lot of 3rd graders!

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
49. 14/15. The last one stumped me.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:26 AM
Aug 2013

Billy Graham was the only one I'd heard of. I never noticed the First Great Awakening, whatever that was.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
52. Probably because it occurred a couple hundred years before you were born.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:43 AM
Aug 2013

That question probably would've stumped me too if I hadn't previously done such substantial research on colonial religion.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
114. I guessed on that one and got it right
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:06 PM
Aug 2013

Had I missed it I would have only gotten 13 out of 15. But now we both no the answer don't we! Just think of John Edwards as a religious leader.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
166. That was the only one I missed too, same reason, same wrong answer.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:43 PM
Aug 2013

I thought I'd be lucky to get any of them right be cause I see all religions as very nasty jokes and consider myself careless about them. Imagine my surprise to do far better than those who worship regularly.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
50. Missed two. Numbers 10 and 15....
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:40 AM
Aug 2013

I just guessed at number 15 and as for number 10, I thought that it had been ruled a teacher could lead a prayer if it was non-denominational.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
54. I got 12. This is like "how much do you know about Dungeons and Dragons
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:52 AM
Aug 2013

So a bunch of guys sat around in their basements and made shit up, and the rest of the world is supposed to give that some special reverence?

How come there weren't any questions about the numbers of lives ruined by putting garbage into peoples' heads, or by the wars fought by these different tribes? How come there weren't any questions about how religions have stalled progress over the centuries, or how they have persecuted so many people who dared to speak the truth?

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
65. D&D has ruined / ended a lot less lives than religion
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:25 AM
Aug 2013

My objection is to the presumption that it is a good thing for people to know the 15 "facts" that the Pew survey asked about. No. It is just a who's who of stupid brain-dead dogma over the centuries. Why is it a virtue to know the 15 stupidest things that some people believe?

My life would probably be more wholesome if I could have scored a zero on that test.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
67. Maybe 2/15. there were two constitutional questions.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:29 AM
Aug 2013

I knew some stuff (9/15) because I started reading a lot of eastern religious works after 9/11 and all of the anti-eastern religion propaganda was being shoved at us.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
95. indeed, there are many Americans especially among fundamentalist Protestants who believe a bunch of
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:34 PM
Aug 2013

nonsense that if a child is caught saying a prayer or reading the Bible at school - they could be expelled or possibly even arrested. That is the kind of crazy demagoguery that many right-wing Protestants have been promoting for decades

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
83. Maybe you missed my point
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:24 PM
Aug 2013

My reference to people sitting around in basements making shit up pertained to the creators of these religions, not to the Pew company.

Religion is nothing more than a philosophy that cannot stand up to the scrutiny of debate, so debates are not allowed. "God gave me this religion and that's all there is to day about it."

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
101. Yes Apparently I did, but
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:37 PM
Aug 2013

Philosophers are the Jonnies Come Lately to religion. Religion is simply the codification of tribal law. For superstitious men will not follow the laws of men, but will follow the laws enforced by divine retribution.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
122. That might have been the case 2000 years ago.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:34 PM
Aug 2013

Today we have a well-developed secular judicial system that is more than adequate at enforcing those standards that the community feels necessary in order to be "civilized". We can argue about the occasional blip, such as the Zimmerman case, but our legal system really works well most of the time. It certainly works better than an arbitrary system where random people become appointed as holy and they randomly enforce a bunch of ambiguous standards of their own arbitrary making.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
80. Nice--thanks!
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:22 PM
Aug 2013

I suppose I could have consulted The Google, but it's always more fun to pick the brains of my fellow DUers.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
86. Really? I've had decades of theists telling me what atheism "really" is.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:25 PM
Aug 2013

I don't need the quiz for myself, but I'd be interested to see how theists would perform on such an exam.


[font color="red"]Edited to add: I don't mean to suggest that you are telling me what atheism "really" is; I'm referring instead to those people who routinely do so. Sorry for the imprecise wording.[/font]

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
98. That is still happening right here. Theists tell non-believers here everyday what atheism really is.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:36 PM
Aug 2013

One of the pushiest has responded to you already.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
60. if you scored 14 out of 15 - you scored better than 97% of the American public - that's scary
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:09 AM
Aug 2013

for such an easy test

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
128. interestingly, it seems tied to how actively bounded and defined each group is
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 02:38 PM
Aug 2013

at the top you have self-selected groups who are QUITE clear about their religion, at the bottom those for whom religion is unremarkable--a par-for-the-course, everyday thing
hmm

drm604

(16,230 posts)
61. Like many others here, I got 14 out of 15.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:11 AM
Aug 2013

I knew that one of the answers was certainly wrong but I couldn't decide between the other two.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
63. Huh...well I'm surprised...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:19 AM
Aug 2013

As an Agnostic/Atheist, I scored:



You answered 13 out of 15 questions correctly
for a score of 87%.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
64. Non religious, 14 out of 15. I was unfamiliar with the First Great Awakening...
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:19 AM
Aug 2013

...so I guessed. Wrong.

This is the Jonathon Edwards that I know:


CBHagman

(16,981 posts)
66. Discussion of religion was par for the course in geography and history classes back in the day.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:26 AM
Aug 2013

Now that I think about it, you can't get through an American, British, or German literature class, or an art history class, without touching on religion, including ancient beliefs. It's impossible to deal with legal history, symbolism in art, or Shakespeare without doing so.

Grey

(1,581 posts)
70. 87% ~ 13 of 15
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:10 PM
Aug 2013

Better than I thought. Still, I should have gotten all of them. Just not awake this morning.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
76. I "know" that it was probably "created" by clever men, who claimed to know
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:19 PM
Aug 2013

what happened after death, and why ecological/meteorological events happened.

Probably involved some mind-altering substances along the way.

No matter how primitive a society is, parents always grieve the loss of a child, children grieve for dead parents.. Having a spirit-god to look over them in the afterlife can lessen the load, and help them move on..

Stories get embellished over time, and since the religious elders often were the only ones who could read/write (later on), it's not hard to see why religions gained so much power & wealth..

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
99. Religious Affiliation- doesn't list Pagan. Nor Pantheist. The questions were so general
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:36 PM
Aug 2013

many were close to meaningless. I got 15 out of 15.

Edit- I agree with a poster above who called it a "trivia quiz".

Would be more interested in seeing a quiz that asked more involved philosophical questions. Although such questions don't easily translate to multiple choice.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
104. Perfect. and an atheist, how common. I've found that the more one learn about
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:41 PM
Aug 2013

religion, the less likely one is to be suckered by the insanity it represents as truth.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
107. no trick questions??
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:44 PM
Aug 2013

but then again life has offered me wide, diverse experiences... I've been to Seminary, attended Satsang and meditated with Mahatmas, a nearby town has 2 Buddhist Monasteries, Joseph Smith was born in Vermont and everyone needs to understand Islam because of recent history... etc, etc...


temporary311

(955 posts)
108. 14/15.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:48 PM
Aug 2013

Got the sabbath one wrong. Im wondering if that question is why Jews are ranked above atheists, since if I were Jewish I probably would've known that one .

treestar

(82,383 posts)
132. got them all too
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 02:54 PM
Aug 2013

but I had learned from the partial quiz.

I was a little iffy on the faith alone question - antinomianism, or something, I thought might have been a pre-Protestant doctrine of faith alone being enough - but decided not to overthink it and got that right.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
133. I got 100% right on that one too. It's too easy.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:10 PM
Aug 2013

A proper test would have led to at least one wrong answer. I'm an atheist.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
141. Atheist, 32 of 32 correct.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 05:48 PM
Aug 2013

And noticed the Christian Science Monitor shows an AVERAGE reader score at 85% correct--which doesn't really surprise me much.

Submariner

(12,497 posts)
117. That it and it's gods are as phony as a $3 bill
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:11 PM
Aug 2013

and people are suckers for believing in any of it. A dozen years of fucking nuns and drunk priests taught me all I need to know about religion and their imaginary sky people.

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
124. That fact that I knew a bit means nothing about knowing about religion..
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 01:57 PM
Aug 2013

The questions asked were those represented in popular culture.

If answering those questions correctly made me as a religious person...then that would just be sad.


Tikki

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
137. 93%.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:26 PM
Aug 2013

I'm embarrassed that I even missed one. These are basic questions from any World Religions course.

LeftishBrit

(41,203 posts)
139. I got them all, though the last one was a guess
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:37 PM
Aug 2013

I am an atheist, but know lots of people from a variety of religions, and am interested in history which is relevant to some of the questions.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
142. Asking when the Jewish Sabbath begins is a nasty trick question.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 05:57 PM
Aug 2013

I got 15, but I nearly fell for that one.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
143. 15/15 with an unfair advantage
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 07:09 PM
Aug 2013

I went to high school in Massachusetts. Maybe that's why I remember learning in high school about Jonathan Edwards the theologian. Then, not long after, I learned about DreamGypsy's Jonathan Edwards, who was gigging around New England.

What surprised me was that more people didn't mistakenly think that the Golden Rule was included in the Ten Commandments. I thought that would be the toughest question on the test.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
167. To make it harder, one of the names was from the *second* great awakening 100 years later
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:48 PM
Aug 2013

(To make it yet more confusing, the First Great Awakening was, at the time, called "the second awakening".)

They were really interesting periods in American history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Great_Awakening

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Great_Awakening

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
151. 15/15 Another Atheist.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:28 PM
Aug 2013

Could have answered all of these questions correctly in 10th grade. Somewhat depressing to be in the top 99%. It's bad enough that most Americans are shockingly ignorant of history and geography but aren't all those homeschooling bible thumpers at least drilling their own crap into those kids' heads instead of science?

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
169. 14/15
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:07 PM
Aug 2013

Missed #15. I just thought it must be Edwards, but I guess I was over-thinking. Chose Finney. Geez!

Episcopalian, UU, Pagan, depending on what day it is, I guess.

Chiennoir54

(29 posts)
170. I missed two
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:30 PM
Aug 2013

And one I knew but just hit the wrong button. I do know that as Mr. Hitchens said, religion poisons everything. No matter which one you choose.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
173. 15/15 -- 100% correct
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 01:16 AM
Aug 2013

better than 99% of the general public. And I'm an atheist. I like reading about various myths through the ages.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
174. 14/15 - I missed the Nirvana question - but looking it up - I see that I wasn't completely off base
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 05:54 AM
Aug 2013

I was of course aware that eventual freedom from suffering was a Buddhist concept - but I was under the impression that Nirvana was primarily a Hindu concept - So I answered, Hindu

This is the definition of Nirvana as I found it on wiki:

Nirvana

Nirvāṇa
(Sanskrit: निर्वाण; Pali: निब्बान nibbāna ; Prakrit: णिव्वाण is an ancient Sanskrit term used in Indian religions to describe the profound peace of mind that is acquired with moksha (liberation). In shramanic thought, it is the state of being free from suffering. In Hindu philosophy, it is union with the Brahman (Supreme Being).

The word literally means "blown out" (as in a candle) and refers, in the Buddhist context, to the imperturbable stillness of mind after the fires of desire, aversion, and delusion have been finally extinguished.[1]

Nirvāṇa is the soteriological goal within the Indian religions, Hinduism,[7][8] Jainism,[9] Buddhism,[8][10] and Sikhism.[11] It is synonymous with the concept of liberation (moksha) which refers to release from a state of suffering after an often lengthy period of committed spiritual practice. The concept of nirvāṇa comes from the Yogic traditions of the Sramanas whose origins go back to at least the earliest centuries of the first millennium BCE.[12] The Pali Canon contains the earliest written detailed discussion of nirvāṇa and the concept has thus become most associated with the teaching of the historical Buddha. It was later adopted in the Bhagavad Gita of the Mahabharata. In general terms nirvāṇa is a state of transcendence (Pali: lokuttara) involving the subjective experience of release from a prior state of bondage. This is the result of a natural re-ordering of the mind and body via means of yogic discipline or sadhana. According to the particular tradition, with the experience of nirvāṇa the mind (Buddhism) or soul (Jainism) or spirit (Hinduism) has ended its identity with material phenomena and experiences a sense of great peace and a unique form of awareness or intelligence that is called bodhi in Buddhism, Kevala Jnana in Jainism, kaivalya (Asamprajnata Samadhi) in Yoga.

It has several other names as well. Hinduism uses the terms Aikantya, Apamarga, Brahma-upalabdhi, Sahaj, Sakshatkara, Sayujya, Videhalcivalyam and Yogakshemma, while Buddhism also uses the term Bodhi. Because nirvana represents an advanced form of samadhi or jhana Hinduism acknowledges it as Nirvikalpa Samadhi, Buddhism, as Ceto-vimutti Samadhi and Jainism as Asamprajyat Samadhi. Mukti is sometimes elaborated on as Atyantiki Mukti, Samipya Mukti (or Salokja Mukti), and Sadrisya Mukti.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
190. Yeah, I waivered on that one, too
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:25 PM
Aug 2013

but figured they were going for the most "black-and-white" answer, rather than the more correct ambiguous one.

"Nirvana" is mostly associated with Buddhism these days, at least in the West. There's "moksha" in Hinduism, which means the liberation of one's divine self (Atman) to merge with the larger divine reality (Brahman).

eridani

(51,907 posts)
175. Jews, atheists and Mormons are particularly well informed
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 06:16 AM
Aug 2013

15/15 for me. I guessed on the Great Awakening, though.

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
183. atheist here. Got 14 out of 15 but I guessed on many of them...
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:03 AM
Aug 2013

and I missed a stupid one but I think I just clicked wrong, lol!

I was raised Catholic and also studied religion in school but my memory is shot. I kinda went with what sounded right.

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