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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 07:28 PM Aug 2013

Martin Luther King Was A Liberal Progressive Who Favored Left Wing Causes & Don’t You Forget It

Martin Luther King Was A Liberal Progressive Who Favored Left Wing Causes & Don’t You Forget It
Oliver Willis · August 23,2013



As we head towards the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, it is worth pausing for a second to solidly stake out the fact that Martin Luther King Jr. was a man of the left.

For years the right has sought to either de-politicize Rev. King or expunge his leftist sentiment from the public record. We are told time and again that King was somehow beyond ideology and that his quest for civil rights and justice didn’t deal in politics.

Bull.

Rev. King was a liberal. A dyed in the wool liberal. He was on the left. He favored liberal solutions and liberal policies. He wasn’t a centrist, moderate, on the center-left or God forbid anywhere near the right.
HE WAS A LIBERAL.


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Martin Luther King Was A Liberal Progressive Who Favored Left Wing Causes & Don’t You Forget It (Original Post) kpete Aug 2013 OP
fucking a KG Aug 2013 #1
No, they had more in common than "being Black" as you so dismissively put it.. Cha Aug 2013 #13
Yes, Dr. King was not just a martyr, nor was he only religious, or pacifist. He weighed the society freshwest Aug 2013 #18
Excellent, freshwest! Cha Aug 2013 #19
this is not a very flattering article or comparison noiretextatique Aug 2013 #24
He stood and walked the walk, talked the talk. Many things we now accept is results of Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #2
he supported FDR's economic bill of rights RainDog Aug 2013 #3
You forgot to post the link. Here it is: Electric Monk Aug 2013 #4
thank you Electric Monk kpete Aug 2013 #8
There's a good reason they killed him Hydra Aug 2013 #5
Thank you and I have been saying that for years...it's also one of the reasons they killed him gopiscrap Aug 2013 #6
DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #7
I've been told, here on DU, that he was a pragmatic pscot Aug 2013 #9
Yes, I did! … 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #26
Yes he was. love_katz Aug 2013 #10
Read about his Poor Peoples' Campaign RT Atlanta Aug 2013 #11
Liberal AND a Christian. Damn straight! Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #12
I can't count how many times I have seen Conservatives/Republicans try to claim him. tarheelsunc Aug 2013 #14
I've often seen the claim he was a registered Republican... true or not, it is more repug bullshit Ohio Joe Aug 2013 #16
Considering that many Southern Democratic governors of his day, HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #21
A thread from 2012 johnnyreb Aug 2013 #15
Many black civil rights leaders were still Republican then, but King did not join a political party Recursion Aug 2013 #17
I'd say he was a radical limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #20
But how did he get anything done without appeasing the right? progressoid Aug 2013 #22
+100 nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #27
k&r for the truth. n/t Laelth Aug 2013 #23
K&R LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #25

KG

(28,751 posts)
1. fucking a
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 07:37 PM
Aug 2013

'We are told time and again that King was somehow beyond ideology and that his quest for civil rights and justice didn’t deal in politics. '

hell, i don't have to leave DU to hear that kind crap.




realtalk - other than being black, he as very little in common with prez.

Cha

(297,101 posts)
13. No, they had more in common than "being Black" as you so dismissively put it..
Reply to KG (Reply #1)
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 10:34 PM
Aug 2013
"How Barack Obama is like Martin Luther King, Jr."

snip//

..I disagree. Barack Obama is stunningly similar to Martin Luther King, Jr., but to see this similarity we must relinquish the false, reconstructed memories of perfection we currently project onto King.

Martin Luther King, Jr. was a political philosopher and dedicated freedom fighter, but he was also a pragmatic political strategist. Seen through the perfecting lens of martyrdom, King appears to be to be an uncompromising progressive leader, undeterred by seemingly insurmountable challenges, willing to risk all to achieve the goals of his movement.

To see King exclusively in these terms requires active, willful revision of history. In his political work, King was surprisingly like President Obama. And I don't mean the oratory.

Consider this. Martin Luther King Jr. turned his back on Bayard Rustin. Rustin was his dear friend and trusted advisor. Rustin was the architect of the March on Washington. A fierce, lifelong pacifist, Rustin shepherded a young King through his first non-violent, direct action protests. Without Rustin there would have been no March on Washington and no national audience for the articulation of King's great dream.

Yet when he was pressed, Martin Luther King Jr. eventually disavowed Rustin and ejected him from the movement. Rustin asked King for his support, but King turned his back on Rustin. King rejected Rustin because Rustin was gay and socialist.

Faced with the political realities of homophobia and America's red scare, King chose to silence Rustin. King decided defending Rustin would distract the movement from its central goal of achieving an end to racial segregation."

There's more..
http://www.thenation.com/blog/how-barack-obama-martin-luther-king-jr#

I'm not posting this to disparage Dr King but this came up when I googled how PBO and MLK were alike. I'm posting this so ignorance doesn't prevail.

Those were different times and I certainly don't hold anything against Dr King because he did this differently than I would have liked.

"Bayard Rustin, Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Gay Strategist, Deserves Better"

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/bayard-rustin-martin-luther-king-jr-s-gay-strategist-deserves-better/politics/2011/08/23/25730

"Obama Awards Bayard Rustin - the Man Behind the March- The Presidential Medal of Freedom"

snip//

"On Thursday, the White House announced that Bayard Rustin, the trailblazing civil rights activist, will be posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States.

The timing couldn’t be better. Rustin was a key advisor to Martin Luther King and the primary organizer of the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom — a job he seemed to have prepared for all his life. Many Americans will be celebrating that event’s 50th anniversary on August 28, and insisting that the country complete the march’s unfinished business of economic justice, full employment, voting rights, and equal opportunity.

Honoring Rustin with the Medal of Freedom tells us something about how far America has come as a nation in the past 50 years. After all, he had four strikes against him. He was a pacifist, a radical, black and gay. Controversy surrounded him all his life."


http://billmoyers.com/2013/08/10/obama-awards-bayard-rustin-the-presidential-medal-of-freedom/

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Yes, Dr. King was not just a martyr, nor was he only religious, or pacifist. He weighed the society
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 01:23 AM
Aug 2013
he was living in very carefully. Some think of him as a simple man who was naive, a pastor who suddenly took it on himself to answer the call. King was highly educated and a genius many times over:



Martin Luther King, Jr. began his education at the Yonge Street Elementary School in Atlanta, Georgia. Following Yonge School, he was enrolled in David T. Howard Elementary School. He also attended the Atlanta University Laboratory School and Booker T. Washington High School. Because of his high score on the college entrance examinations in his junior year of high school, he advanced to Morehouse College without formal graduation from Booker T. Washington. Having skipped both the ninth and twelfth grades, Dr. King entered Morehouse at the age of fifteen.

In 1948, he graduated from Morehouse College with a B.A. degree in Sociology. That fall, he enrolled in Crozer Theological Seminary in Chester, Pennsylvania. While attending Crozer, he also studied at the University of Pennsylvania. He was elected president of the senior class and delivered the valedictory address; he won the Pearl Plafker Award for the most outstanding student; and he received the J. Lewis Crozer fellowship for graduate study at a university of his choice. He was awarded a Bachelor of Divinity degree from Crozer in 1951.

In September of 1951, Martin Luther King began doctoral studies in Systematic Theology at Boston University. He also studied at Harvard University. His dissertation, "A Comparison of God in the Thinking of Paul Tillich and Henry Wieman," was completed in 1955, and the Ph.D. degree from Boston, a Doctorate of Philosophy in Systematic Theology, was awarded on June 5, 1955.


http://www.lib.lsu.edu/hum/mlk/srs218.html

He had a mission, as does PBO. Rosa Parks, also, was not just an older woman, but also an organizer for civil rights. What she did was necessary to point up the insanity of the culture she lived in, the crime of discrimination.

The time had come to fight the oppression this nation codified and was built upon, slavery, then sharecropping, the workers righta and the right to vote. They suffered not just by indentured servitude, but merely by the color of their skin, the notion that they were born to be a slave in the eyes of generations.

It is a shame that all the souls that inhabit human bodies have had trouble relating to each other. Women were not given the right to vote along with black men after the Civil War and during the First Reconstruction, even though they were among the abolitionists. They had to wait for the right to vote by law. Not one given by the free market that profited off slavery, not the church that justified their status.

One group lived under 'America's peculiar institution' for centures that harmed black men, women, gays and straights, it was total. Justified with a library of specious arguments made publicly, even to the point of requiring a Civil War to dissuade those who felt they had a right to own and confine blacks to a permanent lower caste.

Black equality or lack of it part of the fabric of America since slavery began. Their equality is the key to freedom for all of us whether we choose to acknowledge it or not. Centuries of brutality are still yet unspoken. The story of all of who have been oppressed for any reason and their freedom falls upon all of us.

That Bayard was left out of the March, was bad and it was 50 years ago. I am glad we have gone beyond that and he is receiving his due in this time. We cannot change the past. We are coming closer to the dream of universal equality, the goal sought by Bayard, King, Obama and the Democrats. But it is anathema to the forces arrayed against us.

We cannot go back and allow anyone to take our eyes off the prize, which supercedes all of our diferences. If there is such a thing as evolution in the human race, we must unite to work for it.

Because too many of our countrymen have grown rich off of inequality and will not give it up. They ae not crazy, but they're greedy. The value of equality will overcome the economic cost. We can bear it and will be stronger for it

And I do not think that a mind such as that of MLK, who truly saw the universe and made even have touched on what we might call eternity, in a way few will ever be able to comprehend, can be confined by politics or labels. He belongs to no one and to everyone. He was a gift to the human race taken from us far too soon.

Cha

(297,101 posts)
19. Excellent, freshwest!
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 02:20 AM
Aug 2013

MLK, such a brilliant man.. the forces that represented evil thought they had no choice but to assassinate him. But, it was in vain. His brilliance outshined his life that was taken from him so early.

"That Bayard was left out of the March, was bad and it was 50 years ago. I am glad we have gone beyond that and he is receiving his due in this time. We cannot change the past. We are coming closer to the dream of universal equality, the goal sought by Bayard, King, Obama and the Democrats. But it is anathema to the forces arrayed against us.

We cannot go back and allow anyone to take our eyes off the prize, which supercedes all of our diferences. If there is such a thing as evolution in the human race, we must unite to work for it."


These great men and women all have their place in history. Not as perfect beings but with imperfections like any of us.

I appreciate them all in each era they lived in, freshwest.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
24. this is not a very flattering article or comparison
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 04:40 PM
Aug 2013

i know king had his faults, but the article cites some not-so-flattering examples of what the author calls king's "political pragmatism." personally, i think those compromises were personal failures, but i understand what the political and social climate were like then. and i understand the climate obama faces today. and considering the beast king and other leaders of the civil rights movement were battling (jim crow, racism) i find the comparison more than a little ridiculous, and even offensive. i understand the president is unfairly attacked a lot and clearly some feel the need to defend him, but he id nothing like king. and he doesn't have to be.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. He stood and walked the walk, talked the talk. Many things we now accept is results of
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:08 PM
Aug 2013

His work, he stood non violent, and he brought the beginnings of changes long overdue in our nation. To dream your children could achieve as much as others, to know you could vote and not just pay taxes is a good thing. He may have been a liberal but liberals aren't bad people.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
3. he supported FDR's economic bill of rights
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:11 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.poorpeoplescampaignppc.org/HISTORY.html

Under the "economic bill of rights" the Poor People's Campaign asked for the federal government to prioritize helping the poor with an antipoverty package that included housing and a guaranteed annual income for all Americans.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. There's a good reason they killed him
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:17 PM
Aug 2013

The RW loves to take our best people from us, because they're obsessed with winning. Anyone who was a winner must have been their people.

They can't have him. They hated everything he stood for, and they still do. I will remember.

gopiscrap

(23,735 posts)
6. Thank you and I have been saying that for years...it's also one of the reasons they killed him
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:34 PM
Aug 2013

along with JFK, RFK and Paul Wellstone

pscot

(21,024 posts)
9. I've been told, here on DU, that he was a pragmatic
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:15 PM
Aug 2013

deal maker whose ministry was concerned exclusively with racial justice. I've also been told that attempting to read anything else into his words distorts his intent and coopts his message.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
26. Yes, I did! …
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:07 PM
Aug 2013

But let me clarify two points (in reverse order) … First, regarding his ministry being exclusively about racial justice and attempts to distort/co-opt his words into something more universal … I was fairly clear that I was talking about his I Have A Dream Speech. Dr. King spoke, specifically, about income inequality, the War and a host of other liberal/progressive issues in dozens of speeches; in fact, he did so the day after, and in the weeks and months following, the Dream speech. To attempt to extend the Dream speech beyond the demand for racial justice, is to take too much license, as he was explicit as to what he was saying.

Secondly, Dr. King was, in fact, a pragmatist, as evidenced by his support of main-stream/establishment politicians. Dr. King recognized that a politician’s usefulness is directly attached to his (her) ability to affect legislative change … and one can only do that by holding office.

But that said ... I think I see the disconnect ... It seems that many see progressivism/liberalism and pragmatism as mutually exclusive. Progressivism/liberalism is a belief system; whereas, pragmatism is a tactic for achieving a progressive/liberal ends.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
11. Read about his Poor Peoples' Campaign
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 09:30 PM
Aug 2013

Planned to take place in summer of '68 (a few months after he was killed early April in Memphis).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_People%27s_Campaign

From the Wikipedia entry:

Witnessing the anger that led to riots in Newark (July 12–17, 1967) and Detroit (July 23–27, 1967), King released a report in August (titled "The Crisis in America's Cities&quot which called for disciplined urban disruption, particularly in Washington:[12]


To dislocate the functioning of a city without destroying it can be more effective than a riot because it can be longer-lasting, costly to society but not wantonly destructive. Moreover, it is more difficult for government to quell it by superior force. Mass civil disobedience can use rage as a constructive and creative force. It is purposeless to tell Negroes they should not be enraged when they should be. Indeed, they will be mentally healthier if they do not suppress rage but vent it constructively and use its energy peacefully but forcefully to cripple the operations of an oppressive society. Civil disobedience can utilize the militancy wasted in riots to seize clothes or groceries many did not even want. Civil disobedience has never been used on a mass scale in the North. It has rarely been seriously organized and resolutely pursued. Too often in the past was it employed incorrectly. It was resorted to only when there was an absence of mass support and its purpose was headline-hunting. The exceptions were the massive school boycotts by Northern Negroes. They shook educational systems to their roots but they lasted only single days and were never repeated. If they are developed as weekly events at the same time that mass sit-ins are developed inside and at the gates of factories for jobs, and if simultaneously thousands of unemployed youth camp in Washington, as the Bonus Marchers did in the thirties, with these and other practices, without burning a match or firing a gun, the impact of the movement will have earthquake proportions. (In the Bonus Marches, it was the government that burned down the marchers' shelters when it became confounded by peaceful civil disobedience.) This is not an easy program to implement. Riots are easier just because they need no organization. To have effect we will have to develop mass disciplined forces that can remain excited and determined without dramatic conflagrations.[13]

Also in August, Senator Robert F. Kennedy asked Marian Wright Edelman "to tell Dr. King to bring the poor people to Washington to make hunger and poverty visible since the country’s attention had turned to the Vietnam War and put poverty and hunger on the back burner."[14] Edelman transmitted Kennedy's message to King in September.[15]

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This is the same Dr. King who so eloquently and publicly came out against the Vietnam War in April 1967 (almost a year to the day before his death). Do yourself a favor and listen to King's reasons (and his points are still correct today):


tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
14. I can't count how many times I have seen Conservatives/Republicans try to claim him.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:04 PM
Aug 2013

They think they can repeat lies like that over and over and people won't realize they're lying. Dr. King frequently advocated for liberal causes and he vehemently opposed conservatives such as 1964 Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater. If he was alive today, he'd probably say the Democratic Party isn't liberal enough.

Ohio Joe

(21,748 posts)
16. I've often seen the claim he was a registered Republican... true or not, it is more repug bullshit
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:25 PM
Aug 2013

The Republican party of 50 years ago has nothing in common with today's batshit insane repugs. MLK would be horrified to see what the repugs are today and they know it.

21. Considering that many Southern Democratic governors of his day,
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 03:31 AM
Aug 2013

like George Wallace of Alabama, Lester Maddox of Georgia, Orville Faubus of Arkansas, and Ross Barnett of Mississippi, openly opposed segregation, as well as the overwhelming majority of Southern US senators who voted against the Civil Rights Act, it would have been understandable that King could have been a registered Republican.

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
15. A thread from 2012
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:17 PM
Aug 2013
Marin Luther King Jr. was a Republican!!! ??
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021367100

Had he been more republican, the 1999 Memphis assassination conspiracy trial-that-nobody-ever-heard-of might have made the news; http://www.thekingcenter.org/assassination-conspiracy-trial

...along with the Department of Justice report criticizing that trial. Controversy sells commercials!
http://www.justice.gov/crt/about/crm/mlk/part1.php

And silence is betrayal.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. Many black civil rights leaders were still Republican then, but King did not join a political party
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 11:37 PM
Aug 2013

nor did he endorse political candidates.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
20. I'd say he was a radical
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 02:52 AM
Aug 2013

consider this

I want to say to you as I move to my conclusion, as we talk about "Where do we go from here?" that we must honestly face the fact that the movement must address itself to the question of restructuring the whole of American society. (Yes) There are forty million poor people here, and one day we must ask the question, "Why are there forty million poor people in America?" And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising a question about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth. When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. (Yes) And I'm simply saying that more and more, we've got to begin to ask questions about the whole society. We are called upon to help the discouraged beggars in life's marketplace. (Yes) But one day we must come to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring. (All right) It means that questions must be raised. And you see, my friends, when you deal with this you begin to ask the question, "Who owns the oil?" (Yes) You begin to ask the question, "Who owns the iron ore?" (Yes) You begin to ask the question, "Why is it that people have to pay water bills in a world that's two-thirds water?" (All right) These are words that must be said. (All right)
http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/index.php/encyclopedia/documentsentry/where_do_we_go_from_here_delivered_at_the_11th_annual_sclc_convention



progressoid

(49,967 posts)
22. But how did he get anything done without appeasing the right?
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 08:12 AM
Aug 2013

Centrism and compromise is the only way to get things done.







LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
25. K&R
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 05:49 PM
Aug 2013

This needs to be SHOUTED over and over again till every right wing hack get the memo.

MLK WAS A LIBERAL!!!!

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