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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 08:41 AM Aug 2013

Former Jabhat al-Nusrah Member admits Chemical Weapons Use

Christof Lehmann (nsnbc) ,- Abdola Al-Jaledi, a former high-ranking member of the Jabhat al-Nusrah front has revealed on his Twitter account @abo_almonthir, that his Jabhat al-Nusrah colleagues are in possession of chemical weapons, reports the independent Syrian Dampress Online Journal.

A former member of the al-Qaeda associated, foreign-backed Jabhat al-Nusrah front which is fighting the Syrian Armed Forces in an attempt to oust the Syrian government to establish an Islamic Sharia state, has admitted that Jabhat al-Nusrah is in possession of chemical weapons, to be used in attacks in Syria.

The Syrian Dampress Online Journal reports, that the Saudi Arabian terrorist, Abdola al-Jaledi has recently revealed on his Twitter account, @abo_almonthir, that his colleagues are storing toxic agents.

Al-Jaledi, who is a former, high-ranking member of the Jabhat al-Nusrah has reportedly left the al-Nusrah to continue fighting with another, also al-Qaeda associated brigade.

On his Twitter account, Al-Jaledi apparently said: “If it was not for confidentiality on this matter, I would reveal who was the fighter who made the said chemical bombs”.

http://nsnbc.me/2013/08/25/former-jabhat-al-nusrah-member-admits-chemical-weapons-use/


Listen I see a lot of pointing fingers
But al-Qaeda is fighting against the Syrian Government.We are also looking at a proxy war between
Iran and Saudia Arabia. Take each story
with a grain of salt as with this one and others you see
There is a propaganda war going on so
be careful. Do I take this story credible?
Well just as much as I do from other stories and other players in this terrible conflict.

Yes I know the link may be suspect but real news from the middle east is not known to be reliable and have their own agendas.

I do know right now the UN inspectors are under target from somebody in Damascus.

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Former Jabhat al-Nusrah Member admits Chemical Weapons Use (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 OP
Next comes the story about babies in incubators Glitterati Aug 2013 #1
Except this story is true, the only question is who the culprit is nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #7
ROFLMAO, OK Glitterati Aug 2013 #9
I'll take the word of MSF over random Internet ranters, thank you nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #10
The UN inspectors are under target from someones in Amman, Jeddah, and Doha, as well. leveymg Aug 2013 #2
Probably credible Lurks Often Aug 2013 #3
The delivery method is suspect too Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #5
Hey, this is what happens when you say and get others to believe that you can't trust your own kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #4
Clapper's 'least untruthful' statement Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #6
Right ... GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #8
We don't know who used chemical weapons and all the speculation cali Aug 2013 #11
The arrests in Turkey Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #12
You prove my point. You're pushing hard for it to be rebel forces cali Aug 2013 #13
I'm not pushing hard ... I'm just giving Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #15
What is NSNBC? Renew Deal Aug 2013 #14

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. The UN inspectors are under target from someones in Amman, Jeddah, and Doha, as well.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 09:35 AM
Aug 2013

There's a race, of a kind, going on. And at least half of the players don't want the truth to be found, if indeed it is findable.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
3. Probably credible
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:10 AM
Aug 2013

Use of military grade nerve gas should have resulted in far more deaths then has been reported. So if the reporting is accurate, either military grade nerve gas wasn't used or it was diluted and I can think of no reason for the Syrian government to dilute the nerve gas, so that leaves "homemade" nerve gas as the most logical explanation I can think of.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
5. The delivery method is suspect too
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:19 AM
Aug 2013

In early December, the Al Nusrah Front and allied foreign Islamist battalions seized Sheikh Suleiman base, or Base 111, in Aleppo after a months-long siege. The military facility is rumored to be involved in the Assad regime's chemical weapons program. The base "contained a clandestine scientific research whose purpose was unknown even to the rank and file," AFP reported in late November, based on a claim from a soldier who defected. [See LWJ report, Al Nusrah Front, foreign jihadists seize key Syrian base in Aleppo.]

On May 30 this year, the Turkish media reported that 12 individuals from the al Qaeda-linked Al Nusrah Front had been captured in antiterror operations in Adana, along with a total of two kilos (4,5 lb) of sarin gas. Five of the 12 suspects were later released. [See Threat Matrix report, Reports claim Al Nusrah Front members in Turkey were planning sarin gas attacks.]

And in early June, the Iraqi military broke up an al Qaeda in Iraq cell in Baghdad that was seeking to manufacture chemical weapons. The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (formerly al Qaeda in Iraq), one of two al Qaeda affiliates that operate in Syria, is the dominant rebel force in Syria, along with the Al Nusrah Front, which is also an al Qaeda group. [See LWJ report, Iraq breaks up al Qaeda chemical weapons cell.]



Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2013/08/questions_about_alleged_gas_at.php#ixzz2d5JkBzCz

http://www.longwarjournal.org/about.php

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
4. Hey, this is what happens when you say and get others to believe that you can't trust your own
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:15 AM
Aug 2013

government. Then you have to believe the lies and propaganda of others.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. We don't know who used chemical weapons and all the speculation
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 10:54 AM
Aug 2013

I've seen, just reminds me that confirmation bias is a pernicious thing.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
12. The arrests in Turkey
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:20 AM
Aug 2013

led to raids in Iraq

MAY
Turkey arrests 12 in raids on 'terrorist' organization


http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/30/us-syria-crisis-turkey-idUSBRE94T0YO20130530


JUNE
Iraq arrests five in 'al-Qaeda chemical weapons plot'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/10094187/Iraq-arrests-five-in-al-Qaeda-chemical-weapons-plot.html

Who knows who used the sarin
it could have been the government but also the rebels took over a government base back in july/August.. where sarin could have been stored.


AUGUST;

In Syria, seized weapons caches boost rebels’ hopes after weeks of setbacks



http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-08-20/world/41427932_1_syrian-rebels-aleppo-air-base




I say either side could have used the gas
but always look at the strategic, tactual and propaganda goals
In the Art of War.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. You prove my point. You're pushing hard for it to be rebel forces
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:25 AM
Aug 2013

others are pushing hard for it to be the Assad Government.

Yes, I read the articles, to say they're inconclusive would be being kind about it.

We don't have the information to come to a conclusion. period.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
15. I'm not pushing hard ... I'm just giving
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:43 AM
Aug 2013

an alternative analysis to what I've been reading on DU....

I could go the other way if you want
its quite easy.......LOL


Like you said We don't know who used the gas and until we let the UN ... Swedish led inspections finish their job






lets not jump to conclusions











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