After watching the VMA's last night---I am officially declaring 8-25-13--- the day Music died.

[trumad]

Can somebody please bring back the seventies.

[roody]

1. What are VMAs and was that part

of it?

[trumad]

2. MTV's Video Music Awards.

A big deal for the music world. They held them last night.

[HardTimes99]

3. Didn't that happen back when Buddy Holly died? (Shout out to

fans of Don McLean's "American Pie" and all of us oldsters

[Are_grits_groceries]

6. Drove my Chevy to the levee

but the levee was dry...

[HardTimes99]

14. McLean said the success of that song ruined him as a songwriter. I could

only wish for such ruin!

[Are_grits_groceries]

22. I liked "Starry Starry Night" too. nt

[HardTimes99]

26. As songs go, it may actually be a better one than 'AP' (in my

opinion, writing as a semi-pro songwriter).

N.B. Pretty sure official title was\is 'Vincent'.

ETA: Looks like we're both correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_%28song%29

[Jackpine Radical]

80. I've always loved "Vincent."

"The world was never meant for one as beautiful as you."

Vincent Van Gogh.

[HardTimes99]

90. Buried within the song are two lines that always get me:

"Weathered faces lined in pain
Are soothed beneath the artist's loving hand"

Vincent was (and is) a man of the people, an artist for the proletariat. You don't need a degree in art history or coursework in art appreciation to hear him speak to you. You just need eyes that see and a heart that feels.

[Jackpine Radical]

56. Them good ol' boys

was drinkin' whiskey an' rye.

[Are_grits_groceries]

78. Singin' "This'll be the day that I die

This'll be the day that I die."

[Supersedeas]

16. not that brings a smile to my face

[pinboy3niner]

4. I still haven't gotten over what'sername leaving the Spice Girls

[ripcord]

8. I still haven't got over Ozzy leaving Black Sabbath

[pinboy3niner]

12. And Annette leaving the Mouseketeers. What's up with that?

[Mojorabbit]

53. That takes me waaaay back. LOL nt

[Art_from_Ark]

146. And Pete Best "leaving" the Beatles

I've never gotten over that one, ever since I learned about it in 1978

[bullwinkle428]

86. R.J. Dio was honestly a better vocalist than Ozzy.

[JustAnotherGen]

25. Cobain and Tupac

Tells you my age.

[Are_grits_groceries]

29. Patsy Cline dying.

Talk about a voice!

[Bertha Venation]

81. + 1

[BuelahWitch]

118. +2

[Agschmid]

34. Geri Haliwell...

I'm right there with you. But Mel B. came back in her post Spice career.

[loli phabay]

141. mel c was it, or geri. luv me some spice girls

[steve2470]

5. I think Miley has successfully killed off her old Disney image lol nt

[Are_grits_groceries]

7. Probably killed Walt again too. nt

[steve2470]

11. yes lol nt

[JoePhilly]

19. His head is probably rolling in its jar.

[Agschmid]

38. Potentially she was going for this...

But I think it came off more like this...



Either way, it was bad. It was very sexist, and really classless, it is MTV if you are going to do it somewhere why not do it where you influence the next generation.



and...

[betterdemsonly]

130. Becoming jailbait

after being a professional virgin and member of true love waits, is part of the Disney persona . Look at Christina Aguilera, Mandy Moore and Britney Spears.

[steve2470]

131. out of that whole bunch, Christina has the most talent

Mandy has dropped off the radar pretty much. Britney....well....she's a good dancer, singer not so much. No one seems very impressed with Miley overall.

[HughBeaumont]

9. Mainstream music died around 1993-94 . . .

. . . . when it collectively decided to not sign any more freaks, risk takers or creative artists. Let's instead make music into a commodity with Disney-friendly little girls and pop singles.

The tragic results of this decision were on display last night.

My lawn has nothing to do with music sucking on its own in 2013.

[Lizzie Poppet]

48. Fortunately, there's just as much GOOD music as ever.

You just won't often find it on major labels from their newer signings (some of the "old dogs" still have some very good tricks).

[Jamastiene]

68. [phone]

Great music made it into the mainstream for about 2 minutes, it seemed, back then. After that, mainstream music went to hell in a hand basket.

[panader0]

10. Yeah, that was pretty bad.

I saw it on CNN this morning. Popular music these days really sucks.

[live love laugh]

138. What made it really horrid was that she went on and on and on....it was like a trainwreck. nt

[TwilightGardener]

13. Meh, I wouldn't associate her with music.

She's just another Britney Spears-style "entertainer". Just a strip club act, really.

[CherokeeDem]

40. Thank you...

I have been trying for years to come up with a description of Britney Spears...

"Just a strip club act..."

Perfect...

[KharmaTrain]

15. Music Was Far Better...

...when we weren't supplied the video and had to come up with our own...

Cheers...

[Eleanors38]

31. ^^^ I got VistaVision & Technicolor already: In my head.

[FarCenter]

149. Kodachrome

If you took all the girls I knew
When I was single
And brought them all together for one night
I know they'd never match
My sweet imagination
And everything looks worse in black and white

Kodachrome
You give us those nice bright colors
You give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world's a sunny day, oh yeah!
I got a Nikon camera
I love to take a photograph
So Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away

[steve2470]

17. autotune also: enemy of good talent nt

[hatrack]

18. Autotune must DIE . . .

But sadly, it never will.

[steve2470]

21. yep, a cheaper way to generate "talent" nt

[ChairmanAgnostic]

42. exactly. It removes all emotion and individuality from the music.

[Jamastiene]

70. I still wonder why there are not major

autotune gadget smashing parties held daily since the invention of that garbage. I'm not even sure the electronics parts could be salvaged and recycled. They might "remember" what their job once was.

[Orrex]

100. Let's get rid of multi-track recordings, too!

And to hell with post-processing! If they can't cut the track in one take with a live singer and band, they don't deserve to work in music!


While we're at it, movies should be shot in one take, with all effects produced in-camera. Otherwise it's crap!


GET OFF MY LAWN!

[TM99]

107. Post processing is one thing....

Autotune is quite another.

One allows an engineer to 'fix' an otherwise good take. Autotune makes people who have no business singing to begin with believe that they can and should. Then they all sound alike, which is of course perfect for corporate pop trash but not the best for creative music making.

[Orrex]

112. Seems like a difference of degree

Less-than-stellar singers have been assisted in various ways for decades, and good singers have been made to sound better for much longer than that. I doubt that most auto-tuned performers really believe that they're great singers, in the same way that most supermodels probably don't think that they look like they do on magazine covers.

There's a territorial dispute going on here, too, between singers and performers, and I don't see why there needs to be just one or the other. Maybe Ke$ha can't sing her way out of a paper bag, but if she's entertaining her fans, then I say good for her.

"Creative music making" has gotten the short end of the deal for a very long time, but so has every other creative artistic venture. Just ask those who self-identify as creative artists!

[TM99]

113. Then you obviously haven't met any supermodels!

There is a difference between a singer and performer. A singer can be a great singer and then be a performer as well. A performer couldn't before Auto-tune. Now they can, and in order to compete, even established singers like Reba are using it.

Technology is great - I use it constantly - hardly a Luddite. But a point of diminishing returns can be hit. When every singer is now nothing more than a performer and they all use auto-tune, then they all sound alike. It is truly the artistic equivalent of processed food. Box mac and cheese may have gotten quite a few poor college students through, and some may even have found memories of its taste. But it has never compared to your mother or grandmothers' home made mac and cheese, and it never will.

[closeupready]

139. Yeah, but then Katy Perry would have to return to Santa Barbara

and become a housewife or something.

[Common Sense Party]

94. I love what Steve Perry had to say about autotune:

Regarding recording shortcuts in the digital age - Well, first of all .......... I HATE auto tuners on voices and today it's an epidemic....... I can't feel any emotion from a voice if it sounds like a horn on a Vespa. I'm from the old school of sing it over and over until ya get it feeling right...... emotionally and musically...... Then I can let it go as the best I got at that time and move on. Today....... Short cuts have hurt the quality of many recordings to the point that it's become a new sound that everyone has to have............. Reaching for honest performances I think is still the most timeless musical approach.

http://fanasylum.com/steveperry/

[TM99]

109. Amen!

[MineralMan]

20. In the grand scheme of things a performance at the VMAs

does not even register. It is singularly unimportant.

[HardTimes99]

32. In the cosmic scheme of things, a species like homo sapiens does not

even register (except maybe for Shakespeare, Dickens, Bach, Beethoven, Michelangelo, Monet, Newton and Einstein). It is singularly insignificant

[MineralMan]

39. I don't deal with things on the cosmic level.

At that level, nothing is really consequential.

The entire solar system could disappear in a massive explosion and it would have no effect on things on a cosmic scale. Indeed, such things are commonplace.

Since I am a human being, on a tiny, insignificant planet, I can only deal with things on a planetary scale. And on that scale, Miley Cyrus is scarcely significant at all, and one performance by that insignificant person is even less impressive.

[HardTimes99]

59. I'm with you, brother. I barely even know who she is, much less care - nt

[HardTimes99]

75. Ah, a person after my own heart. We indie musicians (I'm now retired from the circuit) salute

you. Think globally, spend locally is my mantra. Explains why my wife and I only go to non-chain coffeehouses and bars that have live music and works of local artists on display.( Last big-name act I saw was back in 1979 when I saw David Bowie in Kansas City's Music Hall, a small intimate venue. Great concert, right after Bowie came out with his album Heroes.)

[Orrex]

114. Regarding the diddling

how does diddling yourself on stage make you a better singer?

One could ask the same of Madonna of Michael Jackson (though Michael might not answer right away.

Or we could ask Elvis if his gyrating hips made him a better singer.

I'm not a fan of Ms. Cyrus, but she's hardly the first singer accused of sexualizing a performance to hide a lack of talent, and I doubt she'll be the last.



I really need to find DU's list of Approved Performance Styles so that I know which performers I'm allowed to like.

[Orrex]

121. Do you perceive that someone is forcing you to like Miley Cyrus?

Roger Waters spat in a fan's face during a live performance of The Wall. Rock bands of all stripes have a long history of trashing hotel rooms, etc. Bieber's hardly alone in his asshole behavior, though I grant that his "style" doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

What's happening here, as is always the case, is a bunch of people explaining why their dislike of a certain performer should oh my goodness never in a million years be dismissed as get-off-my-lawn-ism. No, we tasteful souls reject these performers because they suck, whereas the performers that we like are of obviously higher quality, even though they did a lot of the same stupid shit as the current crop.




Might be worth asking Liza Minelli about Judy Garland's offstage antics, while we're at it.

[Generic Other]

144. You accused me of writing "DU's list of Approved Performance Styles"

because I expressed my opinion. Apparently only you are allowed to have one. Excuse me.

edited to reflect your opinion only.

[Orrex]

145. Now that's a grown up response.

Delete your post for whatever reason you wish, but don't blame me.

[Chiyo-chichi]

43. And yet on that national treasure, the Today Show...

they can't wait to finish talking about boring things like the use of chemical weapons in Syria and move on to the cray-cray happenings at the VMAs.

[Neoma]

23. Lol, this is what happens when people born in the 90s grow up to be in our whacked music industry.

I'm only half way joking.

[JoePhilly]

24. Is she trying to treat a yeast infection?

Or maybe I should use this miley ... oops ... I mean smiley.

[TwilightGardener]

44. Maybe it's itchy.

Poor girl.

[randr]

27. The MTV/POP Music culture has been around since Pat Boone

covered Chuck Berry. It is just getting harder and harder for them to exploit the pop culture youth and this is just an example of how far they need to go to keep the attention of their market. At the same time it is expanding the boundaries of sexual expression which is part of the legacy of Rock and Roll, so I would not dismiss it out of hand.
Thankfully there is still the far larger library of contemporary and established musicians who still create music from the heart and mind. You just need to turn off the MTV crap and find yourself a radio station that cares about their listeners.

[sharp_stick]

28. You know you're getting old

when you start spouting the exact same quotes your parents did.

Music is declared dead about every 10 years.

[tridim]

63. That's why it's called pop.

Real music never dies, even if pop music fans never listen to it.

Gaga and Cyrus are hacks.

[KG]

30. that had nothing to do with music.

[Are_grits_groceries]

33. Dolly Parton is Miley's godmother.

Wonder what she think?

[VanillaRhapsody]

61. Dolly based her look from Hookers she saw when she was a kid....thats what she said..

so...I wouldn't worry about her disapproval of this..

[Still Blue in PDX]

134. But Dolly isn't vulgar. Her trashiness is downright ladylike by today's standards. nt

[Peacetrain]

35. There is an upside to no TV

that is a bit much

[Bluzmann57]

36. The 70's.

Ah yes, the 70's. The era of (shudder) disco, big hair, bell bottoms, and glam rock.
Disco sucks now, sucked then, and always will. So some of us don't have a lot of fond memories of the 70's, at least musically.
I will say though, that Southern Rock bands such as (the REAL) Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Allman Bros., Molly Hatchett and others helped us survive that dark era in music.

[trumad]

55. Really...you equate the seventies to disco?

Not punk? Springsteen? The Police...?

Just Disco?

[WCLinolVir]

108. Tell the truth, you couldn't dance and couldn't wear Angel Fly's.

I have many fond memories of the 70's. Great time to be a teenager. But I am from SF/Berkeley.

[brooklynite]

37. Didn't MTV kill off music 10 years ago?

[kelliekat44]

46. yes. nt

[Bertha Venation]

84. Closer to 30, actually

[MADem]

41. If the farty old adults aren't shocked, then the rebellious children haven't done their job...

Poor taste is poor taste, though, make no mistake.


Is that one of those fan football "We're Number One" hands?

[steve2470]

47. it sure looks like a foam hand, yes nt

[MADem]

60. I wonder how long she'll last before she burns out?

That "shock" foolishness only lasts so long; after a while you have to be able to hold a tune.

[snooper2]

45. Why, you didn't have greatness like Pentatonix in the 70's

Here they are playing with Lindsey Stirling, who is awesome in her own right!

I've come to the realization that folks that say "the music died" or "music is dead" are just "out-of-touch" with any music scene-

[JesterCS]

58. I LOOOOVE Lindsey Stirling

I discovered her about 6 months ago. Fell in love with the music

[snooper2]

62. But the music deaded

And what the fuck is up with electronic ignition, give me my points back! I know how to use 600 grit sandpaper and clean them!


And I used to have a Kenmore washer that worked for 60 years! The top was rusted through but it still spun!

[enlightenment]

71. I like the second one

but not the first. I don't care for whatever that is called (is that considered rap?) - I like it when singers sing. They are obviously all very talented - my preference is only about the style of the first video piece.

[snooper2]

76. Oh, so you like acapella

Check this

&feature=c4-overview&list=UUmv1CLT6ZcFdTJMHxaR9XeA

&list=UUmv1CLT6ZcFdTJMHxaR9XeA

[enlightenment]

98. Love the first one!

Second one, not so much. I do not for one moment deny their talent, though! I'll definitely be sharing these with my friends.

Thanks!

[kelliekat44]

49. To each his or her own. As for me, I like tunes I can remember, words that mean something to me.

Lyrics that tell a story that makes sense to my ears and my heart. And that is what I listen to. No one can make me listen to anything else.

[steve2470]

50. trumad, my 17 year old son says rock is now moribund

Kids !

[madrchsod]

152. i`m 66 and agree .....rock is moribund

[steve2470]

153. Nickelback ? please.....

[madrchsod]

154. the only good rock n roll is coming from some country music

[steve2470]

155. do you mind naming a few tunes ?

I'll forward them to my son. Thank you kindly.

[lpbk2713]

51. I saw a promo for this on one of the other cable channels.

They named six or eight acts that would appear. I had to say "who?' .
Lady Gaga was the only one I had ever heard of. And that was only
because I saw an article on her on 60 Minutes.

[cali]

52. Only if all you listen to is mainstream pop and rap

there's a huge amount of great music being made out there.

From Neko Case's new CD

[RC]

54. My question is, When are they going to do away with costumes entirely for the "stars"?

Gotta distract us from the wars, poverty, filling for profit prisons with Jay walkers, this county is becoming.

That said, why was anyone watching in the first place?
That must be some itch, she can't stop scratching it.

[BlueJazz]

57. That don't sound like no Hank Williams to me ?? (from Blues brothers)

People ask me why did you quit touring (with a band) and become a Microsoft Engineer.?

I tell them: Believe it or not, Microsoft doesn't suck near as bad as Modern pop music.

...and I get to eat

[Bertha Venation]

87. "Microsoft doesn't suck near as bad as Modern pop music."

!!

[BlueJazz]

111. Hi Bertha...um..I don't alway get to update "stuff" on DU but weren't you ill or sick for

...a while ?? I remember posting something to you (??)

Anyway, just saying that I hope things are going better for you.

[madville]

64. Well that was

Interesting. I don't know what it was but I watched the 6 minute segment on Youtube, she's in good shape I guess.

[Jamastiene]

65. When it comes to mainstream music,

you are about 15 or 16 years too late declaring it.

Mainstream music is a bunch of fluffy crap that a bunch of pretentious, fuckwad 1%er music business executives think will sell.

I'd rather listen to a thousand garage bands than even one single mainstream band. Garage bands are the best.

[n2doc]

66. Ah, the 70's, when rock stars sang about their 15-year old girlfriends....

"Sick Again" -Led Zeppelin

From the window of your rented limousine, I saw your pretty blue eyes
One day soon you're gonna reach sixteen, Painted lady in the city of lies.


Seem to remember some sort of bump and grind from the lead singer, too......

[trumad]

79. Wow!

Zepplin? Miley Cyrus??? errr ok.

[n2doc]

82. You are complaining about the simulated sex acts

I am only pointing out it has been going on for a long time. Unless you are complaining specifically about a female performing simulated sex acts, and in that case you are a sexist pig.

[TM99]

91. Young women grabbing their groins

as if they had cock & balls is hardly a simulated sex act. It is a confusing parody of one at best!

Debbie Harry, for example, knew how to be super sexy, feminine, and tough as nails. This brat is a wannabe pop star trying to shake a wholesome Disney image while riding the coat tails of her relatives' success in the music industry.

Nepotism & corporate pop music at its finest.

[bigtree]

93. Robert Plant was in love with his crotch on stage

. . . he do this thing where he'd go to the edge of the stage and let the women grab him around there. I gotta say, it was awful for me to watch that. He wasn't the only one doing that at the concerts I attended, though . . .

[trumad]

96. I'm not complaining about simulated sex acts...

I'm complaining shitty music.

I'd think my headline kind of gave that away.

Sheesh

[n2doc]

99. There's been shitty music in every decade

And good music in every decade. Typically the shitty stuff gets promoted more on TV.

[pipi_k]

88. Actually...

from a couple of sources, the song is about Plant's pity for the groupies who would follow them around attempting to grant them favors.

Whether those favors were ever accepted, I have no idea.

And the bumping and grinding...hell, he did that all the time.

[n2doc]

92. Lori Maddox

http://www.stryder.de/rest/Groupie_Central_Lori_%20Maddox.html

When Lori was 14 years old, she met a man who would change her life: Jimmy Page, guitarist of Led Zeppelin. Jimmy first spotted her when an associate of his showed Jimmy a picture of Lori. Jimmy was intrigued, and when Led Zeppelin stopped in Los Angeles on their 1972 tour, Jimmy immediately tried to get together with Lori. Even though Jimmy was dating groupie Pamela Des Barres at the time (back when she was known as Pamela Miller, aka Miss Pamela of the GTO's), Jimmy pursued Lori relentlessly. Lori has said she was still a virgin at the time and she was afraid of Jimmy at first. But Lori has contradicted herself by reportedly saying that she wasn't a virgin when she met Jimmy. Because of her groupie activities before she met Jimmy, it's more likely that she wasn't a virgin by the time she got together with him.

According to Lori, after Jimmy tried and failed several times to get together with her, Jimmy had Led Zeppelin's tour manager "kidnap" Lori and bring her back to the Continental Hyatt, the hotel where Led Zeppelin was staying. Lori was brought to Jimmy's room, where as she described in the Led Zeppelin book "Hammer Of The Gods": "It was dimly lit by candles...and Jimmy was just sitting there in a corner, wearing this hat slouched over his eyes and holding a cane. It was really mysterious and weird...He looked just like a gangster. It was magnificent."

[Orrex]

103. Boom!

[Xyzse]

67. Oh god, that is almost NSFW

Wow...
Must scrub my brain...

[GeorgeGist]

69. Get a room, girl.

[Liberal_in_LA]

147. exactly. no one wants to see

[themaguffin]

72. I agree about last night, but if you have to go back to the 70s, something is wrong

[Gemini Cat]

73. The early 70's maybe.

To me most main stream music from about 1973 on was pretty rotten.

[Erose999]

77. Were you expecting anything less than a trainwreck?

[nolabear]

83. I like a lot of today's music, but that had nothing to do with music. Damn, Child...

I don't know who she wants to love her, but she's a long way down the wrong road.

[CrispyQ]

85. You were just on the wrong channel.

If you had been tuned to AXS, instead of MTV, you would have heard Steve Vai's "The Story of Light" concert & you would know that the music didn't die.

[cbdo2007]

105. Steve Vai is amazing

It's so annoying when lazy people complain about music when it really isn't that difficult to find, and "Little Stevie Vai" has been entertaining some of us since the 80's.

[bigtree]

89. didn't watch the show, only saw pictures and articles

I'm here to declare that everything is just fine. Music is alive and well. That is all.

The big finger thingies just might well be dead to the rest of us, though.

[cpwm17]

95. I think there's a lot of terrific pop music out today

Late 60's and 70's music was great. It's 80's and early 90's music that I can't stand. That's when I switched to oldies. I returned to modern music over 15 years ago.

It's all subjective, but that's my opinion.

[abelenkpe]

97. Ah, Miley

I have four 11-14 year old nieces who were huge fans of Hannah Montana. Their parents are horrified at Mileys new super sexualized attempts to reinvent herself. While I understand this is Mileys attempt to boost her career and transition from being a Disney goody two shoes icon I can also see why so many parents are worried their kid (who does not have the fame and fortune to weather such antics) may be influenced to mimic Miley.

Personally think she's a mediocre talent who's only claim to fame is being born to famous parents. But maybe I'm just suffering a bad case of the Mondays....

[B2G]

101. Well at least there was Justin Timberlake! nt

[bluedigger]

102. She did what with her WHAT?

[Orrex]

104. She's just being Miley.

[steve2470]

106. now THIS is music to me:

She even keeps her clothes on

[Benton D Struckcheon]

110. Sara Barreilles' first album was good,

2nd not as good as the first, haven't listened to the third yet. But great voice, wonderful person, all that.
Miley? Well, I wouldn't throw her out of bed. Not sure about the rest.

[LittleBlue]

115. I know Miley isn't very talented but

There is something cool about the way she doesn't give a fuck. That performance was so crazy you couldn't look away.

Hard to believe that was Hannah Montana twerking on Robin Thicke

[Orrex]

116. He was great as the dad on Growing Pains.

[avebury]

123. Alan Thicke was on Growing Pains, Robin

Thicke is his son.

[Orrex]

124. Oh. Then he was great in Beetlejuice.

Or in Beetlejuice's suit, anyway.

[cthulu2016]

117. The 1970s, when music was clean. (We sang "push, push in the bush" in church)

[live love laugh]

140. lol nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

120. VMA's? MTV? Dead. REAL music? Alive and well. Thriving. Getting better and better.

Who watches that shit anyway?

[Cali_Democrat]

122. The day music died? You kidding?

This is the day music was born!

Miley was great!

[dionysus]

125. yeah that was embarrassing.

[themonster]

126. Karoke

It should be called the Karoke Porn Awards. The music is computer-generated crap. Whatever happened to playing an instrument?

[calimary]

142. Welcome to DU, themonster! Can I offer this sample video?

Glad you're here -

Here's a band that plays all its own instruments and writes all its own stuff... (full disclosure - that's my kid on lead vocals/guitar!!!)

[ForgoTheConsequence]

127. There is lots of good music being made.

It's just not on MTV.

[Lint Head]

128. MTV started in 1980 and is no longer relevant to the "art" of music. It ran it's course years ago.

A lot of people watch it but much worse things are done by a lot of people. MTV decides nothing. Popular music today has become nothing but sounds produced by a software metronome that changes pitch. Justin Timberlake apparently does not use Auto Tune but he is the exception to the rule. All one has to do is ask a professional studio musician who used to depend on studio work every day at 6, 10 and 2.
The virtual world has already sidelined most of their careers. I have nothing against technology or software. Only when it's used to replace the touch of human beings when it comes to craft and art. Someone has to touch the computer keys but that will never replace or surpass the touch of fingertips on a stringed instrument or the human breath on a woodwind.

[JCMach1]

132. VEVO, Spotify, Pandora and Youtube have much stronger influence than MTV

MTV is rubbish... dead air.

[eissa]

129. I was disgusted with most of the female performers

Way to go ladies -- apparently you can't sing without simulating a sex-starved pole dancer. I'm quite certain one can sing AND keep their clothes on in the process. Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston and Bonnie Rait (among so many others) have proven that. Miley was simply vulgar. Fingering yourself in a transparent attempt to cover the fact that you have ZERO talent.

I wouldn't say that music is dead, though. Justin Timberlake was AMAZING. Singing, dancing, and playing instruments, that guy has talent all over the place. Bruno Mars is great, too. A real voice and a great artist.

[Efilroft Sul]

137. Timberlake, Bruno, and Gaga will have staying power.

They know how to perform, and subsequent generations of musicians will cite them as influences.

[HooptieWagon]

133. Good music isn't dead, its right in our neighborhood.

Seriously, theres a hell of a lot of great music right in our backyards, that record labels aren't paying attention to (which is probably a good thing). Check out this video by a young man in Tampa, Thomas Griggs. In a few days, he leaves to go study at Berklee.

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And we have dozens of other fantastic musicians, songwriters, and bands in the Tampa Bay area. Probably similar scene in many other areas of the country.

[JRLeft]

135. There is plenty of good music. Just because someone does something you do not like

it does not mean all music is dead.

[sakabatou]

136. Remember when bands made music videos?

They sure don't do that anymore.

[davidn3600]

143. It's not dead, it's just music changes through the decades

There is a lot of cookie-cutter pop crap, but most of that doesn't have staying power. But there are some good bands and some good signers. Of course it's not like the Rolling Stones or Nirvana or Led Zeppelin... Those bands are from a different era.

Just like in a few decades, music will be different again from what it is today. The previous generation can never understand the next generation's taste in music. And vice-versa. The youth today don't appreciate the music of the 60s and 70s.

[Zorra]

148. Try Pandora, trumad. I'm listening to The Dear Hunters right now, and

they can really play, and are very creative.

Pink and Adele are really very talented, and I like Regina Spektor a lot.

There's some great new stuff out there, but it very often gets buried under the mountain of corporate formulaic schlock.

[trumad]

150. I subscribe to it.

Granted...there are some great artists today.

Love Pink... and Gwen...

[madrchsod]

151. it was really bad......

there was anything remotely interesting....well, why is the camera on taylor swift the entire night? is she and timberlake having a thing? curious minds want to know