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Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:35 AM Aug 2013

Would an attack on Syria meet your criteria for war crimes, or not?

If there is no Congressional or UN approval for attacking Syria, and we attack anyway, will that constitute a war crime in your opinion?


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Congress must approve, but not necessarily the UN, or it's a war crime.
2 (40%)
The UN must approve, by not necessarily Congress, or it's a war crime.
0 (0%)
Both Congress and the UN must approve, or it's a war crime.
1 (20%)
It wouldn't be a war crime, regardless of approval.
1 (20%)
It would be a "war crime" even with approval.
0 (0%)
Some other condition.
1 (20%)
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Would an attack on Syria meet your criteria for war crimes, or not? (Original Post) Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 OP
Not enough information. Scuba Aug 2013 #1
So someone posted that "war" is always criminal? DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #2
I don't see an option for that leftstreet Aug 2013 #4
The selection for it "would be a war crime" (criminal) even with approval DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #5
Isn't it specific to Syria? leftstreet Aug 2013 #6
Yes, I took the polll with Syria specifically in mind. DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #9
Oh. Well it's an 'emotional' poll anyway leftstreet Aug 2013 #11
It would be, IMO, unconstitutional to proceed without Congressional approval. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #3
I gave up on interventionist bullshit around 1967. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #7
No. It would constitute a war not a war crime cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #8
18 US Code 2441 atreides1 Aug 2013 #10
I'm trying to understand your question. Raine1967 Aug 2013 #12
 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
2. So someone posted that "war" is always criminal?
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:47 AM
Aug 2013

Strange logic... seems to dismiss all of written history.

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
5. The selection for it "would be a war crime" (criminal) even with approval
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:53 AM
Aug 2013

Meaning no matter what, it is criminal.

I think this is a serious matter. The American public is in no mood to go to more war in the Middle East, that is clear.

But if ANY country is using chemical weapons on civilians, we can't stand by and just watch. It would be criminal to do nothing.
Absolute proof is needed. The UN seems to have it. When you have women and children found dead in the street with foaming mouths, and no bullet wounds... test can verify very easily is chemical weapons were used.

leftstreet

(36,101 posts)
6. Isn't it specific to Syria?
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:56 AM
Aug 2013

Not 'all war always,' but criminal in Syria even with Congressional and UN approval

That's how I took it anyway

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
9. Yes, I took the polll with Syria specifically in mind.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:01 PM
Aug 2013

I voted for Congressional approval as required.

I just pointed out that I find it strange, that is Congress approves a retaliation, someone here on DU wants to prosecute (I am guessing politician, or soldiers???) with war crimes????

I guess some people believe they are morally higher than our Judicial AND Legislative system.

leftstreet

(36,101 posts)
11. Oh. Well it's an 'emotional' poll anyway
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:08 PM
Aug 2013

Technically a 'war crime' occurs only during conflict, and unless I've missed something the US/Syria aren't engaged

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
3. It would be, IMO, unconstitutional to proceed without Congressional approval.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:49 AM
Aug 2013

But that's not a war crime.
It would be a violation of international law to attack without UN approval.
But that's not a war crime either.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. I gave up on interventionist bullshit around 1967.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 11:57 AM
Aug 2013

Haven't you all learned anything since then?

Absent an actual genocide: stay the fuck out of other people's business.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
8. No. It would constitute a war not a war crime
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:00 PM
Aug 2013

It could be an aggressive war, which would be a crime against humanity or something, but a war crime is, to me at least, a crime in the conduct of a war.

Launching Tomahawk cruise missiles at military or government targets seems not to be a war crime. We've done plenty of it without it ever being the most controversial part of whatever we're up to at the time.

But it is most assuredly war.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
12. I'm trying to understand your question.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 12:35 PM
Aug 2013

I'm not trying to straw or red herring --

Are you asking if an attack on Syria would be a war crime? As opposed to what? The crimes that have happened WRT to chemical weapons?

Who is the attacker that you are thinking about in your question? Is it the United States? (I'm under the impression you are referring the USA when you say 'we'.)

You leave nothing that I can vote for or against in your poll.

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