NJ's Gay Therapy Ban Attacks 'Right to Self-Determination,' Argues Lawsuit

[WouldbeCentrist]

"NJ's Gay Therapy Ban Attacks 'Right to Self-Determination,' Argues Lawsuit

A conservative legal group has argued that New Jersey's recently passed ban on sexual orientation change therapy for minors attacks their "right to self-determination."

The lawsuit, filed by the Liberty Counsel last Thursday, argues that the newly signed law A-3371 interferes with the rights of both therapy providers and their potential clients.........."

Full story at http://www.christianpost.com/news/njs-gay-therapy-ban-attacks-right-to-self-determination-argues-lawsuit-103021/#zk7KYmpv6bVzU6PI.99

[RKP5637]

1. These fucken haters just won't go away. n/t

[Donald Ian Rankin]

2. If minors had a right to self-determination, they'd be quite right.

Preventing adults from undergoing "conversion therapy" if they choose to do so is clearly a violation of their right to self-determination.

Children do not have such a right, and this is just one of the many ways in which adults - both their parents and the state - are quite right to control their choices for them until they reach the age of majority.

[WouldbeCentrist]

4. Okay, let me stir the pot a little....

If minors do not have a right to self-determination, then should states that allow minors to have abortions without parental consent change their laws?

California, the first state in the US to pass a ban on reparative therapy for minors, says that legally a minor can get an abortion sans parental notification. Should they pass a law mandating notification for abortions, since minors lack self-determination rights?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

5. No.

There's a grain of sense in that, in that minors are not responsible enough to *take responsibility for* the decision to have an abortion or not.

But the state should accept that responsibility, and provide an abortion to any pregnant minor who expresses a desire to have one, without necessarily informing their parents (this is what you might call a "drop 22" - anyone who attempts to compel a minor to carry a child to term against their will is ipse facto not fit to make that decision, so there's no need to get the parent's consent).

[Dawson Leery]

3. Apartheid Jerry's foundation.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/organizations/liberty-counsel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Counsel