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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo we're launching missiles at Syria when, Thursday?
Not to be so nonchalant but its coming and it looks like its coming in a couple days. I read that Obama wants to release the report that justifies a strike a day or so before we attack and the report could be ready Tuesday.
I don't even want to guess what it will do to the region, our relationships, and reactions around the world.
Any guesses when it happens, and what happens as a result? I'll just be over here being sick.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)you live in a fantasy world of adoration for the President and no reality gets between you and your adoration.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)I read a lot of different sources.
cali
(114,904 posts)you clearly need to work on your reading comprehension if you labor under the illusion that Libya has been a success since our military intervention.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Now we have
USA USA USA !!!
George W. Bush - 9/11 Bullhorn Speech
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Ooooh! Aaaah!
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Live on CNN
I couldnt stop crying.. what a fuct up memory
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)The Obama administration has not yet made that decision. They are still in consultation with allies and chemical weapons experts.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)gas masks, British military planes have arrived on Cyprus and the
Russians are verbally warning us....I think things are further along.
I also believe the UN is moot at this point. Nothing of any substance
will be passed there.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)He and bush can paint pictures together when he finally leaves the Whitehouse.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Is duly noted.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)You want to be a armchair chickenhawk, have fun.
cali
(114,904 posts)This must be how Democrats felt with Johnson after the Tet Offensive - and Obama doesn't have near the domestic political accomplishments as Johnson (sorry, the mediocre stimulus and bailouts to banks don't compare to the Civil Rights Acts and the Great Society). While Obama was courageous on Gay Rights, even that came late.
But what makes Obama even more disappointing in many ways is that we had incredibly high hopes and while much inaction can be laid squarely at the feet of nasty and petulant republicans incapable of governing at any level, Obama has proven to be weak, muddling, and a political naife.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)As much as I disagree with Obama on policy, whatever force motivates him, it is not political naivete.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Do you not think there were tragic lessons learned from the world's failure to act in a timely way in Bosnia and Rwanda?
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)See the hypocrisy?
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)CNN) -- Covert drone strikes are one of President Obama's key national security policies. He has already authorized 283 strikes in Pakistan, six times more than the number during President George W. Bush's eight years in office.
As a result, the number of estimated deaths from the Obama administration's drone strikes is more than four times what it was during the Bush administration -- somewhere between 1,494 and 2,618.
NOTE: Article dated 2012.....but a simple Google search pulls up many
cali
(114,904 posts)only been posted over and over again that under your adored hero President, hundreds of civilians including children and first responders have been killed by drone strikes.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Why is it our responsibility? We are still a relatively young country yet it falls on us to solve the world's problems?
This is a region that is pretty screwed up already without anymore meddling from us.
I hope we stay out of it, but I fear the ships are on their way and the plan's already been put in place.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)When it is reasonably within our power to stop such evil, we should.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)CAG
(1,820 posts)agency spying on emails, but to each his own, I guess.
Celefin
(532 posts)See, that was an easy and cheap way of stopping evil.
But the military bases there are needed to project power and a corrupt dictatorship that brutally suppresses any and all dissent makes operating in secrecy so much easier. And there's no fireworks on CNN so no public support or interest.
Yes we should stop evil. But we don't and we won't when not convenient or profitable.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)I don't think it has much to do with humanitarian purposes
although that give us much cover. We've ignored far too
much in the past for this atrocity to be the event to set our
morals straight. This is a tinderbox and if the Israelis get
involved we will be 'at war' for a long time. imho
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Why dont we let France take the ball this time? Or Turkey?
What safety net must we sacrifice wage war in Syria? Social Security? Looks like a win-win for the neo-cons and conservatives. They get more war and an end to SS and Medicare.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)The UK has said no thanks already. It must be comfy to live in other parts of the world where one can sit on one's hands and wait for the USA to intervene wherever it is necessary. Obama can't even point to a willing coalition for this action. It will be a unilateral operation. In Bush's hands, that was summarily evil, and we laughed when he justified himself by pointing to a willing coalition. Don't forget Poland! Now, in Obama's hands, force is the only option.
If it is true that he who lives by the sword dies by the sword, our reckoning will be grievous.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)but somebody is going to take action. And soon.
What sucks is there are no good sides.
But images of children strangling to death is not a thing easily tolerated.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)should refrain from being militarily involved. Denouncements....yes.
Humanitarian aid....yes. But that's it.
Can you imagine if multi-nationals had invaded our civil war?
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)...they did.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)lots of them if my memory of high school history recalls correctly.
I guess I look at that entirely differently the nations collaborating
to send their armies.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)No doubt about it.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Hekate
(90,556 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)you have no business being there. We haven't left a place better off in a long time and are in fact responsible for killing many civilians ourselves. First do no harm is a good motto for anything!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Same old keywords, I suspect: "allegedly, possibly, .....
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)So, whose lies are they this time?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Whaddya say?
Masturbate for peace...
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)No one else can really.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)And then the new govt. will show its appreciation with oil, gas, and mineral contracts.
johnd83
(593 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)come as early as Thursday.