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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 04:05 AM Aug 2013

Where they make a wasteland, they call it peace

Been reading up on Tacitus fAD 56 – 117) who was a senator and a historian of the Roman Empire.after listening to Free Hardcore History Podcasts by Dan Carlin who quoted him in many of his lectures on the Germanic tribes or the Roman Empire..


The quote reminded me of the results of Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.


The quote in full latin is:


Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

The quote has been translated many ways
but basically:


They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name Empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace. — translation Loeb Classical Library edition

Translation: To plunder, butcher, steal, these things they misname empire: they make a desolation and they call it peace. — translation by William Peterson


For History buffs, Dan Carlin is an exciting storyteller of history. They are more like oral books rather than podcast, many of his podcasts are free and can be found here or on `youtube.

http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/hharchive


This was an interview he did with the great British Historian, James Burke, who did the BBC series 'Connections.



Anyway I thought I'd share


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Where they make a wasteland, they call it peace (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 OP
K&R Thank you for the link. idwiyo Aug 2013 #1
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #2
K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #3
"The Germans are divided from the Gauls by the Rhein, from the Dacians by mutual hatred" Recursion Aug 2013 #4
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