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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:48 AM Aug 2013

For those who think our interest in attacking Syria isn't about oil, I ask ...

Why aren't we rescuing the poor bastards dying of starvation in North Korea? Are their dead really better off than the victims of gas attacks in Syria?

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denverbill

(11,489 posts)
3. Because North Korea has nukes and 10,000 artillery buried in mountains in range of Seoul.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:54 AM
Aug 2013

Not to mention a billion Chinese who may or may not side with North Korea, and the fact that 99% of North Koreans have been brainwashed into absolute devotion to their dear leader.

That doesn't mean necessarily that Syria has nothing to do with oil, only that there are plenty of good reasons for our not attacking North Korea, even if they had oil reserves akin to Saudi Arabia.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
4. You pose a false choice
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:56 AM
Aug 2013

Our concern with Syria is not much about Oil.

It does not follow that it must, then, be entirely abstractly humanitarian, as if those are the only possible answers.

Syria affects US vs. Iran. It affects the mid-east peace process. It borders damn near all of the middle eastern countries we are friendly with... turkey, israel, jordan. It borders a nation we have a keen interest in the development of in iraq.

It is of great geo-political importance, unlike, say, Rwanda.

And bombing Syria would not result in the leveling of Seoul in an hour.

I agree that we ought not pretend that geo-politics is not in play. It is always embarrassing when we claim abstract moral goals.

But Syrian oil is not a key factor here.

IMO.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
6. It would be very useful to pipe Iraqi oil via Syria to the Mediterranean
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:00 PM
Aug 2013

This bypasses the Persian Gulf, with its Straits of Hormuz chokepoint. It bypasses the Suez Canal.

It is also the best link to a seaport for oil from the Kurdish north of Iraq, since it bypasses the Shiite Arab controlled south of Iraq.

 

railsback

(1,881 posts)
5. My Gawd. Seriously?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:56 AM
Aug 2013

NK has a nuclear arsenal, perched on missiles, and could take out surrounding neighbors within minutes, killing millions and rendering entire regions uninhabitable. You think they wouldn't? And Russia/China, the same two defending Syria, are the ones keeping NK alive with food and supplies.

The world is too complicated….

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
7. It's all about supporting their favorite team
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:02 PM
Aug 2013

If their favorite player was against the war....so would they.

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
11. North Korea has a lot more deterrence than Syria.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:55 PM
Aug 2013

I don't support action in Syria right now, but I don't think it has a great deal to do with oil. If anything, our slow reaction here compared with our very swift reaction in Libya is partly because Syria has virtually no oil while Libya does.

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