Every dollar that we spend on dropping bombs on Syria ....

[Chisox08]

is a dollar stolen from the mouths of hungry children. I thought we were broke and yet we have the money for another war. We don't have the money to educate our children or send them to college without going into thousands of dollars into debt. We can't provide healthcare to all American citizens nor can we rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, yet we magically have the ability to bomb another country.
Yes there are problems all over the world. We can't stop bad people from doing bad things not even in our own country. We should be trying to solve our own problems before we try to be the world's police. I'm sick of the constant state of war that we have been in for the last decade. It is only helping the people who profit off of war.

[liberal N proud]

1. Never too broke for war

Just aid to those who need it within our own borders.

[Segami]

2. Change?..Hope?...

What was that all about?

[salib]

21. Oh stop it.

You sound just like Sarah Palin.

[obxhead]

23. As sad as that is

it's just not working out like she predicted. Granted, that's for very different reasons than Palin was whining about, but it really isn't working out too well.

Bush admin policy is still alive and well, strengthened even. We never really got to see change and the hope dwindles away.

[Segami]

28. Measure your words...

if you don't have a thought of substance to add then, stop sounding like a moron parroting talking-point insults.

[salib]

38. My point to you exactly:

If you don't have a thought of substance to add then, stop sounding like a moron parroting talking-point insults.

[DeSwiss]

42. Truth = Insult.

- Got it.


I-binned

[Segami]

48. The pack animals

with nothing to say.

Inhale,...exhale.... and give it a rest! The sun will rise tomorrow once again.

[phantom power]

3. We have lots of money. We spend it on endless war and tax cuts for the rich.

[CrispyQ]

43. This.

The politicians & media parrot the lie that the US is broke. "We're broke & it's because of the services to the poor, so we have to cut the net." And people believe it. We're not broke! There are revenue streams galore in this country. Revoke the Bush tax cuts. Implement a stock transaction fee. Tax investment income like labor. Raise the cap on SS. And there are more.

[Harmony Blue]

4. or money used to fund a job program

lost opportunity oh well.

[AsahinaKimi]

5. They offered me a World Police Badge...

But, I turned them down.

[ctsnowman]

14. LOL

But it's such a cool badge.

[AsahinaKimi]

15. pssst...

Whispers... Its made of PLASTIC.

[ctsnowman]

16. But it's so shiny and would look great

with a lapel pin flag.

[AsahinaKimi]

17. Spray paint..

comes off on your fingers.. Made in China, sez so on the back.

[ctsnowman]

19. You owe

me about an hour of my life. It took me that long to figure out that maids thing that used to be in your sig.
Peace my friend.

[AsahinaKimi]

22. Oh yeah!

[ctsnowman]

24. lol

[bvar22]

6. Evidence of the Empire in Decline

Classic.
When Social Programs are robbed to support Military Adventures abroad.

[AllyCat]

13. Right on. Love your sig line by the way.

[raccoon]

7. “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense,

a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. "

― Dwight D. Eisenhower

[Harmony Blue]

8. Yeah that guy said it

not surprising.

[woo me with science]

34. This is worth an OP all by itself.

Timely reminder.

[NightWatcher]

9. Bull. We're not feeding the kids regardless of military spending

Those little brats need to get jobs.

[City Lights]

10. The MIC will never be forced to beg for food.

We feed it even when it's not hungry.

[get the red out]

11. Yes

I agree.

[joeybee12]

12. That's the thing, it's not just Syria, it's our permanent state of war...

I don't ever see it ending.

[RC]

25. Actually, I do.

Russia and China are backing up Syria and Iran. Syria and Iran have mutual defense pacs.
Both Russia and China have warned us, the USA, to back off. Somewhere, shortly the first strike, there will be a limit to what the rest of the world will tolerate.
The mad men orchestrating these wars are not listening. We will all pay when the push back happens. We will be just like innocent victims, we kill in the drone wars, when we take out another #2. We will be Just like the innocent civilian victims we killed in the middle of the night, in "Shock and Awe" in Iraq. We will be just like the innocent civilians, in all of our wars of aggression. Only, this time the victims will not be so innocent. We will be the ones dieing this time. Because this time the target countries can hit back.

[Lurker Deluxe]

30. But they can't

Russia is feeble, all bolster and ancient weapons. They would not even dream of attacking us, they may fight by proxy but that is an expense they could never absorb.

China's biggest mistake would be to get in a pissing contest with the US. The best thing that could happen to the US is a "do not buy Chinese" sentiment taking hold ... that would be interesting for sure.

I hate the idea of yet another bullshit war over bullshit reasons but to think that us sending a dozen or so cruise missiles into Syria will lead to any other reaction from Russia/China than some stern words at the UN table is naive. You would have to see a carrier strike group get attacked and loose before you will ever see anyone in the world attempt a strike of any kind (except anonymous) on the mainland of the US.

Just.Won't.Happen.

We could let loose so much devastation, without even thinking of going nuclear, that it is insanity to think anyone would do something that insane over Syria, and/or Iran.

[Myrina]

39. Americans would shit themselves if they couldn't buy cheap Chinese merchandise anymore.

And all China would need to do is call in all the US debt it owns in return for a 'buycott' and our government would be on its knees.

[RC]

40. Hold on to that thought for a while.

There really is a limit, no matter how big our ego is.

[bvar22]

46. Sounds like fameous last words.

"Hey everybody, Watch THIS!!!"

The USA LOST in Vietnam despite overwhelming firepower.
The kind of cocky, arrogant, American Exceptionalism you display leads to no place I'm willing to go.

[brooklynite]

18. Meanwhile, children are being gassed in Syria...

Not saying your point isn't important, just that the situation isn't simple.

[Wait Wut]

20. No, it isn't.

This is horribly complicated and depressing. There are no easy solutions. Neither side is right or wrong.

I remember when I first learned that US had (probable) knowledge of what was happening in Nazi Germany and did nothing. I was in high school. I kept thinking of what a cold-hearted and arrogant country I lived in. If I had been alive then, maybe I would have thought differently. 'None of our business' is an easy excuse, but is it an acceptable one?

There are starving children all over the world. They all need saving. Even the ones in Syria.

[bvar22]

47. Nobody has ever saved a starving child with a Cruise Missle.

Food & Shelter is what saves starving children.

[RC]

27. Given a choice between being gassed, shot or ambushed by a drone, which do you think you would like

to suffer, as being the most humane?

[avaistheone1]

32. We gassed families in Fallujah, and we helped Saddam gas Iranians.

This is not something new.

How about we face our own moral failings?

Each and every year 40,000 people die here in the U.S. because of lack of access to medical care. That number is supposed to be halved by Obama care. Should Obamacare prove successful there will still be 20,000 people who will die for lack of medical care. Are the Syrian children more important than are own children and people?

And are we resigned and comfortable with the hunger that pervades our country and its families in the U.S?

If someone can solve the problem in Syria it certainly isn't the U.S., we have no moral standing, nor are we in a financial position to do so.

[Myrina]

37. Very astute post.

Sadly, you have hit the nail on the head.

[Initech]

44. Bill Maher had a great new rule about this a while back.

I couldn't find the clip on YouTube about it but it was something about how the US should take a step back from mindlessly declaring war on anything that has a pulse and say "maybe it's me".

[Carolina]

26. It sure shows our

priorities doesn't it!? Or at least the priorities of the 1% who own DC and Wall Street.

[valerief]

29. Very rich people need more money. They get it from the war chest. nt

[gopiscrap]

31. Absolutely

Didn't Dr. King speak those words also?

[Maedhros]

33. Obama is the War President.

Ongoing war in Aghanistan.
Drone war in Yemen, Pakistan.
Regime change in Libya, Syria.
Operations in Somalia, Philippines, Mali.

(Manning screwed up his plans to extend the Iraq occupation, so I guess we can't count that one.)

[avaistheone1]

41. He will have the distinct honor of starting this one.

No wonder Manning had to be punished severely, and Snowden had to be effectively be banished.

[Link Speed]

35. Inventory replacement

Let's say we fling a couple of hundred Tomahawks at Syria. Let's say those might be the most highly tactical, the really high-end models. At $1.45M per unit, we're looking at some serious money.

[Myrina]

36. Well, unfortunately, we have enough munitions in overstock to decimate the planet several times over

.... this little adventure in Syria is probably mostly about making room on the shelves for new bombs and bullets that we'll buy from Dynagen, Martin Marietta, Lockheed, Halliburton et al ... so I guess in a way you are correct.

[Aerows]

45. Filling a child's belly with weapons

is more affordable than educating them, then shuffling them off the to prison system if they can't die on foreign ground?

That is a horrible idea, but I think sometimes that is the idea our country's leadership functions under.

[raouldukelives]

49. Every bomb dropped, every drone strike = money for Wall St investors.

They put it in expecting returns, the MIC uses that investment to make sure they aren't disappointed.

[deutsey]

50. +1

[ForgoTheConsequence]

51. Every cruise missile is 1.4 million dollars.

How many bridges could be fixed, schools repaired, teachers hired, mouths fed with 1.4 million dollars? If we fire off 100 in the first day that's 140 million dollars.

[rhett o rick]

52. And there are supposedly Democrats right here in DU that will support the killing

of more children. Disgusting.

[TBF]

53. Past decade? Try past 4 centuries --

American History Timeline
American Involvement in Wars from Colonial Times to the Present

http://americanhistory.about.com/library/timelines/bltimelineuswars.htm