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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:00 AM Aug 2013

Neocons Push Obama to Go Beyond a Punitive Strike in Syria


—By David Corn

The drums of war are beating, as various news reports state that President Barack Obama and his European allies are close to launching some sort of military attack against Syria. But one question is how big the bang will be. The White House has signaled that whatever comes will be strictly a punitive strike in retaliation for the Assad regime's presumed use of chemical weapons against civilians. It will not be an action aimed at toppling Bashar al-Assad or changing the overall strategic dynamic of the ongoing civil war in Syria. The supposed goal is to deter Assad from resorting to chemical weapons again. Foreign policy experts disagree—of course—on whether any assault of this nature would achieve that end, and such an action could have unintended consequences (say, a host of dead civilians) that might render it not a clear-cut success. But the band of neocons that led the United States into the Iraq War have quickly moved to seize on the administration's inclination to mount a punitive strike in order to draw the nation further into the conflict in Syria.

On Wednesday, the Foreign Policy Initiative—which was started by Bill Kristol, Dan Senor, Robert Kagan, and other hawkish-minded policy wonks—sent a letter to Obama, urging him to slam Assad in response to the use of chemical weapons in Syria: "At a minimum, the United States, along with willing allies and partners, should use standoff weapons and airpower to target the Syrian dictatorship’s military units that were involved in the recent large-scale use of chemical weapons."

But the letter—which was signed by Elliott Abrams, Fouad Ajami, Max Boot, Ellen Bork, Eliot Cohen, Douglas Feith, Joseph Lieberman, Clifford May, Joshua Muravchik, Danielle Pletka, Karl Rove, Randy Scheunemann, Kristol, Kagan, Senor, and dozens of others—demands that Obama go further. It calls on the president to provide "vetted moderate elements of Syria's armed opposition" with the military support necessary to strike regime units armed with chemical weapons. That is, the neocons and their allies have CW-ized their pre-existing demand for the United States to arm the rebels.

And there's more: "the United States and other willing nations should consider direct military strikes against the pillars of the Assad regime. The objectives should be not only to ensure that Assad's chemical weapons no longer threaten America, our allies in the region or the Syrian people, but also to deter or destroy the Assad regime's airpower and other conventional military means of committing atrocities against civilian non-combatants." Plus, Obama should not only aid the rebels to thwart additional chem weapons attacks; he should arm "moderate elements" of the opposition so that they can "prevail against" the Assad regime and the rebel factions affiliated with Al Qaeda or other Islamic extremists. In other words, get in whole hog.

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Neocons Push Obama to Go Beyond a Punitive Strike in Syria (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2013 OP
These people want to trap Obama into a war Kingofalldems Aug 2013 #1
the neocons are salivating. spanone Aug 2013 #2
Israel and its fellow travelers should be ignored with respect to Syria FarCenter Aug 2013 #3
Poor guy, always bullied into doing things jsr Aug 2013 #4
Do note that Douglas Feith is one of the signatories. (Feith shall live HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #5
White House Syria Deliberations: 'Do Less' Camp is Still Winning KittyWampus Aug 2013 #6

Kingofalldems

(38,414 posts)
1. These people want to trap Obama into a war
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:05 AM
Aug 2013

Anything he does will not be enough and the new cry will shift from Benghazi!-----to Syria!!

They are traitors.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
3. Israel and its fellow travelers should be ignored with respect to Syria
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:07 AM
Aug 2013

They are "interested parties", and not to be trusted. Since they do not recuse themselves, they must be ignored.

 

HardTimes99

(2,049 posts)
5. Do note that Douglas Feith is one of the signatories. (Feith shall live
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:17 AM
Aug 2013

forever in infamy as "the fucking stupidest guy on the face of the Earth," per U.S. General Tommy Franks, himself no rocket scientist.)

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. White House Syria Deliberations: 'Do Less' Camp is Still Winning
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:20 AM
Aug 2013

BY JULIA IOFFE

That said, this is what we do know. As always, the administration is split on action in Syria, and on what, if anything, should be done. General Martin Dempsey is largely against intervention. Samantha Power, U.N. Ambassador and author of A Problem from Hell, a scathing attack on powers that sit by in the face of slaughter, wants to do something. Looking at the roster of the fifteen people at the President's meeting to discuss the Syria crisis, they split roughly in two: the do more camp, and the do less camp. "People have been pretty stable in their positions," said a source familiar with the situation. "I don’t think anyone has changed their position."

The lone exception was Kerry, who had pushed for action on Libya, but has been hesitant on Syria: he has been gunning for that peace conference in Geneva. Today, he was likely trotted out to give the President some cover as the U.N. inspectors finish their work—and get the hell out of Syria before the fireworks start.

By Monday evening, the policy was still very much up in the air, but the "do less" camp seemed to be winning, probably because of Obama's notorious reluctance on such things. The outlines of what the Obama administration is likely to do was starting to take shape: the U.S. would likely act, but it would act mostly to impose a sense of consequence, stopping short of doing something obviously designed to shift the balance inside Syria between Assad and the motley rebel crew. Envisioned thus, U.S. military action would probably target things like the headquarters of airforce intelligence or other targets associated with the distribution of chemical weapons, but would probably spare Assad's deadly air force. That is, it would do enough damage to show the world that Obama's word is bond, that a red line—however accidentally drawn, however tardily noticed—is a red line, but would stop short of weakening Assad enough to let some increasingly shady people topple him. Retaliating for chemical weapons use, says one administration official, "would not be because of a desire to intervene in Syria, but to prevent future chemical weapons use."

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Ultimately, whatever the White House decides—and it will do so painstakingly, almost theatrically so, to demonstrate that, unlike its predecessors, it has not rushed heedless into another Mulsim war—it is likely to be limited and surgically precise in its message to Assad: you can go on killing people in your murky civil war, just not with chemical weapons, well, not on a large scale.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114474/white-house-syria-deliberations-do-less-camp-still-winning

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