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If Gas goes to just 5.50 a gallon, who wins? (Original Post) Stuart G Aug 2013 OP
As Always - The Oil Companies Are Winners And Come Out On Top......nt global1 Aug 2013 #1
Do you think public transit would improve if it stayed up there a very long time? nt Stuart G Aug 2013 #2
I'll say no. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #6
You will not see $5 gas again in your lifetime. 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #3
I wouldn't make that bet. FSogol Aug 2013 #4
Agreed but not anytime soon. JRLeft Aug 2013 #5
5 bucks a gallon is easily achievable. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #16
So called "free-market" speculators, of course. Amonester Aug 2013 #7
$5+ has proven to be the breaking point for the economy. reformist2 Aug 2013 #8
Just drove through north Nevada where we paid 5.09 a gallon. SomethingFishy Aug 2013 #9
The "Pipeline" KansDem Aug 2013 #10
Already done. I actually saw it one here........ socialist_n_TN Aug 2013 #24
Those who made the bed. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #11
The environment and the next generations win Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #12
The environment needs to win. Stuart G Aug 2013 #21
Toyota, Ford, Tesla, Chevy, Nissan and other companies making hybrids and plug-ins win OmahaBlueDog Aug 2013 #13
Mass transit activists. Chan790 Aug 2013 #14
Real estate owners in close-in suburbs with apartment complexes FarCenter Aug 2013 #15
Kochs, Exxon, Derivative Traders, Hedge Fund Managers... "the big club"... Initech Aug 2013 #17
Elio Motors will take off if that happens...they're going to take off anyhow.... tokenlib Aug 2013 #18
We are never going to have cheap gas again RainDog Aug 2013 #19
Can't change things when it's "Morning In America" hatrack Aug 2013 #25
I win. Saturday Aug 2013 #20
Last time it approached five bucks... Iggo Aug 2013 #22
Lots of winners FreeJoe Aug 2013 #23
Make gas $10 now! DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #26
the Cock brothers krawhitham Aug 2013 #27

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
6. I'll say no.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:30 PM
Aug 2013

That would require increased revenue to meet increased demand and higher operating expenses. That would require additional taxes which you won't get when every other person / business is suffering the same pain.

And not every locality is a candidate for public transit. Where I live most people commute over 30 miles to go to work.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
7. So called "free-market" speculators, of course.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:33 PM
Aug 2013

Their collective paranoia is making them always richer everytime stupid ideas like this pop up.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
8. $5+ has proven to be the breaking point for the economy.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:33 PM
Aug 2013

The price might spike up for a little while, but no matter what happens in the Middle East, the price cannot stay over $5 for long without a huge pullback in the US/European economies, and permanent decisions to be made to go toward fuel efficient cars/trucks/trains. The US can get along on a lot less petroleum if it decides to.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
10. The "Pipeline"
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:42 PM
Aug 2013

Expect the "it means more gasoline/jobs for American consumers/workers" lie to commence...

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
24. Already done. I actually saw it one here........
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 08:23 PM
Aug 2013

A couple of Republican senators and Landreau and Baucus for the Dems. IOW, the neo-liberal chorus.

That's such bullshit. ALL oil is sold on the world market, no matter where it's drilled. So the pipeline oil would ONLY go to the USA AFTER it was priced on the world market.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
12. The environment and the next generations win
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:44 PM
Aug 2013

If it stays there and pushes people off fossil fuels.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
13. Toyota, Ford, Tesla, Chevy, Nissan and other companies making hybrids and plug-ins win
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:46 PM
Aug 2013

The natural gas companies also win, as it will raise the demand for cars tat run on CNG.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
14. Mass transit activists.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 03:58 PM
Aug 2013

Been arguing for a long long time that the reason Europe has comprehensive mass transit and America does not is the price of gas and no other reason including distance or how spread out rural America is.

Price of gas goes to $5 and stays there...mass transit grows and car-culture dies.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
18. Elio Motors will take off if that happens...they're going to take off anyhow....
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 05:30 PM
Aug 2013

A lot of us are sick and tired of the high gas prices and insurance costs for everyday driving..when you don't need loads of extra space. Afraid to say much more for fear of being accused of advertising for them.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
19. We are never going to have cheap gas again
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 05:33 PM
Aug 2013

The age of fossil fuels is winding down and resources are such that the cost of using fossil fuel is only going to be more expensive.

Decades ago, forward-thinking Democrats tried to help the U.S. move beyond fossil fuel dependence as a proactive measure, rather than a reactive one. But, of course, the oil industry lobby wanted to extract the last bit of profit and subsidies they could before acknowledging this reality.

New technologies and the rising cost of fossil fuels will eventually force people to move beyond what we have now, and, in the meantime, those with fewer options will, as always, be the hardest hit by these changes.

But, honestly, ask any geologist who has looked at this issue - we're never going back to the era of cheap gas.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
22. Last time it approached five bucks...
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 06:46 PM
Aug 2013

...people out here parked their SUV's and started buying those little half-a-cars.

EDIT: So, bring it on!

FreeJoe

(1,039 posts)
23. Lots of winners
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 08:08 PM
Aug 2013

Alternate energy sources. Conservation. Public Transportation. The environment. Essentially, higher oil prices mean less oil will be consumed.

Aside from the oil companies, lots of other people are direct beneficiaries. Drilling companies. Engineering companies. Railroads. Pipeline companies. People in communities with high concentrations of oil industry workers, like Texas, Louisiana, North Dakota, etc.

Of course, everyone that consumes oil pays the price.

Personally, I'd like to see a gradually increasing carbon tax that increases the cost of fossil fuels to a level that makes their use sustainable from a climate change perspective.

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