"The whole world has failed us," says this Syrian woman. How would you answer her?

[pnwmom]

The video is only a few minutes long, but it will be difficult to watch -- if you have a heart.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594

[JI7]

1. if we knew we could do something without causing other innocents to killed killed

we would do it.

but our history in the area shows it's much more complicated and that we often end up making things worse and not really doing anything to help the people.

[JustAnotherGen]

2. Eyewitnesses describe a fighter jet . . .

I wonder if we have that on satellite? Some country has that footage somewhere. The whole world is watching Syria right now.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

3. I probably wouldn't answer her with a cruise missile. n/t

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[woo me with science]

23. Thank you.

[polichick]

42. Exactly. A humanitarian crisis is not made better that way.

[CthulhusEvilCousin]

51. How does

putting a bullet in Assad's head not help the situation? It's not a humanitarian crisis like starvation or disease. It's a murderous government killing people. So what's your solution? Do nothing and watch him use more chem weapons?

It's not like anyone is even talking about nation building or occupying with troops. We're talking about bombing key targets, preferably filled with Assad's people in it, and Assad himself if we're lucky.

[Chisox08]

55. Syria is in the middle of a Civil war with multiple factions

Killing Assad could allow an even more evil dictator to take over and possibly cause more death and destruction. It's not a black or white situation, we could make things better or make them a whole lot worst and cause another generation of people to hate us. Sometimes things happen that we can't do anything about and we just have to accept that. I know it sounds cold but we can't help everybody. America is not the world's police force.

[Matariki]

43. What I was thinking.

Like how that worked so well in Iraq.

[Union Scribe]

47. Perfect reply

to war hawk emotional propaganda.

[bluestate10]

4. The question that I have is whether that woman, other women like her or men that

think the world has failed them will warn our soldiers when they are coming upon IEDs that the people that the world have failed watched being planted, even if they didn't help plant them? War has consequences. Our troops and economy have bleed for more than ten years fighting in places that we shouldn't have gotten into. I don't support war in Syria, regardless of how wrenching videos are, the fact is those types of videos can be made in many places in the world where dictators are brutalizing their own people.

[brooklynite]

11. Well, since our soldiers won't be on their roads being hit by IEDs...

....since there has been no suggestion of sending in troops, just like we didn't send troops into Libya.

[REP]

5. ...

help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it ...

[Autumn]

10. Wow REP. I don't think anything else has to be said.

[REP]

13. It's Twain

The War Prayer.

[anneboleyn]

18. Excellent. Twain was such a genius, capable of such poetry

[Matariki]

44. Wow. Oh wow.

Thank you for posting that. I've never seen that before. Should be widely read.

[Caretha]

40. yes

only we, ourselves and I can save our selves and I.

[Sam1]

45. And then on to Walt Whitman:

"I am the grass, let me work"

[Agnosticsherbet]

6. She's right.

We have a clear crime in the gassing and a massive humanitarian crises. (Those are two different issues.)

The UN is paralyzed because Russia and China can and will block the UN from any action to address the crises. It is the great game of world politics and Assad's Syria is their pawn that they will protect.

The US won't act alone and our most likely supporters (The Brits and NATO) don't have the support they would need to do anything after a decade of war for no clear purpose.

The vast majority of the American people don't want to be involved no matter how many people are suffering.

It is sad, but it is a reality.

[dipsydoodle]

19. Russia's and China's stance

is a direct bi-product of the Micky Mouse UN resolution on Libya. Neither are prepared to fall for that stunt twice.

[Agnosticsherbet]

22. Russia suports Assad because Syria is their pawn in the great game.

China for the same reason.

[eridani]

37. Civilians taken out by drones in Yemen and Pakistan are of course not suffering n/t

[Benton D Struckcheon]

7. As for what just happened to Cameron,

he shoulda waited for the UN to report. Ditto for Obama. There's no need for a deadline, and setting one that makes it look like you're in a huge rush only makes you look bad, as Cameron just found out. This whole thing has been handled very poorly, given the recent history with Iraq. I'm convinced the attack was real, and that the Syrian gov't did it, but that doesn't mean you just up and fly off the handle without firm and clear support and having all your ducks lined up in a row.
It's a sorry spectacle, and is making everyone in the West look like bumbling amateurs.

[sabrina 1]

8. She's obviously not a Kurd. Who right now are being brutalized by the 'Syrian Rebels

and driven by the tens of thousands out of Syria into Iraq. The 'Syrian Rebels' are Al Queda forces.

So now we are supporting Al Queda. Does that mean the WOT is OVER?

The Kurds are asking for help from the International community also. Who should we help? Al Queda or the Kurds? Well, we know the answer considering our history with the Kurds. Bush Sr. led them to rise up against Hussein assuring them the US would be backing them, then left them to their own devices.

What a mess we created by supplying these extremists with weapons. There IS no WOT, I am now convinced beyond a doubt.

[JI7]

16. if we were supporting al qaeda we would have done more to keep the muslim brotherhood in power in

egypt.

you look at things in black and white when foreign policy is not and should not be viewed that way.

are you saying everyone who has been attacked by Assad's side are Al Qaeda ?

[L0oniX]

41. No mater how few Al Qaeda there are fighting on the side of the rebels, they win if we attack Assad.

The enemy of my enemy will not work here.

[KittyWampus]

30. You are grossly misinformed about who the "Syrian Rebels" are. It fits your narrative to say they're

all Al Qaida but that is patently false. You do yourself & other DU'ers no favor by saying that.

The FACT is, Syrian citizens started agitating as part of the Arab Spring.

The Free Syrian Army remains the largest opposition group and is comprised mainly of non-sectarian early army defectors.

But over time there are now other factions moving in and the rebel forces are varied… and that has given Assad an edge.


The Free Syrian Army- Numbering 50,000 men, a self-declared non-sectarian group of early army defectors, remains the largest opposition group in the country.

The Syrian Liberation Front- numbering 37,000 fighters, fighting in Syria's southeast. Sectarian Islamists

The Syrian Islamic Front- numbering 13,000 fighters, operate in Syria's northeast . Sectarian Islamists

The Jabhat al-Nusra, originally about 5,000 fighters but their ranks have swelled with defecting Free Syrian army fighters. Includes Iraqi insurgents and allied w/Al Qaida in Iraq.

[L0oniX]

38. Al Queda will benefit from an attack on Assad. How much ...we don't know.

Certainly the more the US gets its ass entangled in this shit the more they win. they have to do so little to get the US to knee jerk.

[eridani]

39. Or an Alawite or a Christian

"Christians to Beirut; Alawites to the grave."

[David__77]

9. Not with missiles or bombs.

...

[CBGLuthier]

12. not with american made bombs and bullets

Let the world solve their own problems.

[dkf]

14. Problem is we can't fix it...they wouldn't be happy with us as "peacekeepers" and "her" people

are too interested in dominating everyone else. Doesn't even matter which group she belongs to, they are all trying to gain the leadership role.

The Middle East hasn't shown the ability to get along and compromise, and until they are accepting of each other, democracy won't work for the minority.

[kelliekat44]

15. The whole world has failed us all. The "haves vs the have nots." It's all over the world. nt

[geek tragedy]

17. Well,that assumes the rest of the world cares about the people of Syria.

By all accounts, the rest of the world doesn't care and feels no obligation to stop the bloodbath in Syria.

"Not our problem so long as we can't be blamed for making it worse."

[dkf]

20. What are we going to do to make it better? Kill more people?

We can't fix people who want to kill each other.

[geek tragedy]

21. The US, China, and Russia could make things a lot better

if they decided it was urgent that they cooperate with each other to resolve it via diplomacy.

But, that's not the game being played.

[dkf]

32. What? We can't decide for Syria. How does that work?

[geek tragedy]

34. Assad remains alive at Putin's whim. nt

[The2ndWheel]

24. The world is a complicated place

Every country has their own issues. Some couldn't do anything if they wanted to, and not just politically, but physically. The whole world doesn't agree on anything, and Syria isn't the first thing, only thing, or last thing that fits that description.

[The Straight Story]

25. 5.4 Million have died in Congo since 1998. They are not white

They are most importantly NOT Americans.

They are merely fellow humans. Such deaths are not our business (mainly because they have no lobby).

In Syria we should let assad gas his people - they are HIS people after all. As long as it stays in his country and they are killed we should stick to our tv shows and sports.

14 times chemical weapons have been used there. If we just ask him nicely I am sure there will only be maybe 10 more.

We could cut off medicine and food ala Iraq in the 90's, which should help him in getting more people to die and suffer.

The safest thing we can do for everyone (except for his people) is to go back to what we were doing.

[JI7]

27. isn't the United Nations there ?

[The Straight Story]

29. Since 1999 and still 45,000 per month are dying

So yeah, my faith in them stopping assad from gassing people isn't all that great.

But maybe they can go there and film it and write some strongly worded letters to other countries and raise some more funds to monitor the situation.

[orpupilofnature57]

33. +1000 !!!!

[L0oniX]

36. How can you know the truth when your government lies to you and keeps a lot of secrets?

[The Straight Story]

48. Ok....so we do nothing about anything ever? How about this:

I read news from all over the world, just so you know (and this may be hard for some here to get) the US does not own every paper, reporter, and government in the world and there are other people out there saying the same thing.

It could be the Rothschilds of course using HAARP to control the minds of all the reporters I follow on twitter in the ME, the paper editors, and all the governments and intelligence agencies in the world. So you could be right.

Maybe they all have it wrong. I have never been to syria and for all I know it was made up, an illusion like all of 9/11 (not only were there no planes but the twin towers were a projection all these years as well...I never met anyone who "worked" there).

[AsahinaKimi]

26. It would go against the Prime Directive...

oh wait... that will be a few centuries from now.

[orpupilofnature57]

28. She sounds like a homeless Veteran living on the street with war related maladies .

Support the world, leash the MIC and the 1% that owns it.

[ucrdem]

31. The woman is identified as a British doctor and speaks with a noticeable British accent

for the BBC. Orwell worked for BBC and modeled his Ministry of Truth after it. No one in the video offers any evidence or even asserts that the mysterious burning chemical came from Assad's jets. So I'm reluctant to draw any conclusions from this clip.

[pnwmom]

52. The rebels don't have fighter jets. Assad does. So all they have to do is say it was dropped

by a fighter jet and everyone knows who did it.

[ucrdem]

54. Wouldn't some pro-FSA Syrian have caught the jet with their smart phone?

And wouldn't they be eager to make their photos available to the world via Youtube or the BBC? There's a man conspicuously using a smart phone in this very clip so we know Syrians have them.

Your statement makes good sense, but in this matter I don't think anti-Assad forces including the BBC can be given the benefit of the doubt.

[L0oniX]

35. Let's just hope she isn't down wind when it happens. n/t

[fried eggs]

46. The question is, what can the US or any other country do that would stop

Assad & Co.? I suggested arresting him, but if that's not possible without bombs and thousands of deaths, then what can be done?

[Amonester]

49. Pray (for what it's worth). n/T

[LittleBlue]

50. The rebellion failed, not us.

I feel absolutely no responsibility for your civil war.

[JI7]

53. that's mean

didn't the french help the US ?