White House announces new executive actions on guns

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The White House on Thursday announced two executive actions that it says will close loopholes that allow the most dangerous types of firearms from falling into the wrong hands.

The new policies come as legislative action on gun control appears completely stalled in Congress after a compromise background check bill was defeated in the Senate in April.

The first regulation from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives would require background checks for guns registered to a trust or corporation. That action is intended to close a loophole that allowed felons and others who are prohibited from owning a firearm from bypassing the background check process, the White House said.

The second order will prevent the re-importation into the United States of military-grade firearms that have been provided to foreign allies.

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/29/20246255-white-house-announces-new-executive-actions-on-guns?lite

[Tx4obama]

1. The full White House statement / Fact Sheet on the link below

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101672354

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2. thanks...

[Taitertots]

3. Does anyone actually have evidence that this was ever a problem?

My limited research seems to indicate that this will do practically nothing to limit violent crime; while upsetting countless people who we desperately need to vote Democrat in 2016.

[Jenoch]

5. You are absolutely correct.

How many crimes occur in the U.S. using registered NFA weapons and M-1s imported from South Korea?

[aikoaiko]

4. I think closing the felon-trust is a good thing.

Of course I've never heard of a felon committing a crime with a gun registered through a trust, but it could happen someday. Of course it would still be illegal for a felon to shoot or posess a firearm even if It were registered through a trust. I'm sure there are a bunch of statistics out there showing how much it happens and the White House forgot to include them in the press release.

Also, Im wglad the threat of 8-round Garand rifles not coming back from Korea has ended.
That kept me up At night. I know everyone knows that this rule had nothing to do with fully automatic rifles that are controlled by other laws.


These are tasty bones for the anti-gun crowd.

[Eleanors38]

9. "Military grade?" Is that why other countries want to sell 'em back?

Weird, but then percussion muzzle-loaders were once "military grade"... a century-and-a-half ago.

Coulda sworn those things weighed more. More wood in 'em than a 50s Hi-Fi.

[Supersedeas]

6. has this ever been proposed as legislation?

[Cha]

7. Mahalo spanone!

[spanone]

8. you're welcome!

[krispos42]

10. Ah, the smell of warm pandering on a Thursday...

I think the first item mentioned will affect security contractors (mercenaries) like Blackwater/Xi; when they go to war, they're carrying military-issue stuff.

The second item, like "gun buybacks", makes domestic and foreign gunmakers happy, because rather than simply repatriating guns that are (or can be converted to) civilian-legal status, those guns stay off the market and shiny new ones are made and sold instead.

It is utterly ridiculous to remove from the marketplace (whether through gun-buyback programs that destroy turned-in guns or by barring re-importation of guns) firearms that are 100% legal to buy, sell, own, and manufacture.

It is utterly ridiculous to bar the re-importation of war-surplus M-1 Carbines, for example, when Auto-Ordinance sells brand-new, identical guns.

http://www.auto-ordnance.com/Firearms/Auto-Ordnance-AOM130.asp

And the exact same dealers that are selling new M-1 Carbines from A-O would also be the ones selling, in an identical process, the re-imported M-1 Carbines.

[madinmaryland]

11. Heh! Rmoney would support this one!!! Corporations are people too!!

"would require background checks for guns registered to a trust or corporation"

FUCK THE NRA!!

[HolyMoley]

12. This will really take a bite out of crime.

(Earlier response of mine copied and pasted from a locked thread).

In reality though, this is born out of spite, sour grapes, anger and frustration with the NRA and Congress.

I'd wager that the braintrusts that came up with this scheme, fully realize that none of this will have any impact or effect on firearms related crime or violence. It's only purpose is to send a 'fuck you' message to the opposition: 'if I can't have it my way, well then, lets see how you like these apples'.