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boomer55

(592 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:11 PM Aug 2013

too bad we cant talk about Israeli nukes, our own torture issues or that we have the highest

incarceration rate in the world like Kerry is talking against Syria today.



We are a very hypocritical nation and I will not support this action of needing to attack yet another country that has not attacked us.



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too bad we cant talk about Israeli nukes, our own torture issues or that we have the highest (Original Post) boomer55 Aug 2013 OP
And Israeli nukes are relevant to this discussion how? HERVEPA Aug 2013 #1
Ever look at a map? The Stranger Aug 2013 #3
Yes, thank you, I have looked at a map. HERVEPA Aug 2013 #10
Go look at the map again. The Stranger Aug 2013 #22
How about cutting out the condescending crap. HERVEPA Aug 2013 #31
Nukes are worse than biological weapons and we're very adamant about keeping them and boomer55 Aug 2013 #4
Israel has not used nuclear weapons. HERVEPA Aug 2013 #9
Only one country has ever used atomic or nuclear weapons Deny and Shred Aug 2013 #18
He was pointing out our hypocrisy MythosMaster Aug 2013 #34
Never, under no circumstances? BainsBane Aug 2013 #2
not alone as an independent country. part of a UN mandate and part of the international community boomer55 Aug 2013 #5
That's my view on Syria BainsBane Aug 2013 #6
Says a lot about you. None of it good. HERVEPA Aug 2013 #8
awww I appreciate your judgement and hold it dear to my heart. :) boomer55 Aug 2013 #13
Wait a minute leftynyc Aug 2013 #26
I'm sorry, Aerows Aug 2013 #19
Where did I say we did? BainsBane Aug 2013 #20
Just point out for those that missed it Aerows Aug 2013 #21
I didn't realize I was expected to give remedial lessons in US history BainsBane Aug 2013 #23
LOL Aerows Aug 2013 #24
Incarceration rate? Supersedeas Aug 2013 #7
its only 1 example of the serious problems in our own country that we ignore. Maybe we should boomer55 Aug 2013 #12
i completely agree with you there Supersedeas Aug 2013 #16
Well it is certainly not because we aren't incarcerating Live and Learn Aug 2013 #17
It is indeed appalling that it was impossible for you to post this... wait, hang on! Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #11
by "we" I meant our nations leaders. Please point out where they have spoken about the nukes. boomer55 Aug 2013 #14
Why would the Administration speak about Israel's nukes? wild bird Aug 2013 #29
But But yoloisalie Aug 2013 #15
Do you think it was the rebels? leftynyc Aug 2013 #27
K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #25
What do Israeli nukes have to do with the civil war in Syria? wild bird Aug 2013 #28
Yes. It's high time for USA to get it's own house in order 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #30
I am with you all the way! gopiscrap Aug 2013 #32
MUST. NOT. LOOK. BACK. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #33
truth RainDog Aug 2013 #35
 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
10. Yes, thank you, I have looked at a map.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:27 PM
Aug 2013

And it is a serious question. How is this relevant to whether the US intervenes in Syria?

 

boomer55

(592 posts)
4. Nukes are worse than biological weapons and we're very adamant about keeping them and
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:16 PM
Aug 2013

biological weapons out of the middle east.

we turn a blind eye to them.

Nothing has changed in the 10 years since this was written...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3340639.stm

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
9. Israel has not used nuclear weapons.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:26 PM
Aug 2013

Syria has used (possibly) chemical weapons. That is the difference. We would not be talking about being involved if they hadn't been used. (I'm not in favor of involvement, by the way).

Deny and Shred

(1,061 posts)
18. Only one country has ever used atomic or nuclear weapons
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 02:40 PM
Aug 2013

Isreal denies that they possess them. I believe the poster was pointing out US hypocracy.

Attacking Syria was talked about a lot by US officials in 2005-6.

UN inspectors leave by tomorrow, Congress is not in session, nor being recalled. I put an attack late Sunday or Monday. Holidays are good times for 'bad' news.

MythosMaster

(445 posts)
34. He was pointing out our hypocrisy
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:24 PM
Aug 2013

in our foreign policy in the region.

Incredible double standards.

Policy that the neo-con agenda that has nothing to do with sound reasonable policy for the citizens of those nations but to push the agenda of the multinational energy corporations.

To transform the region that is friendly to the global oligarchs, for the benefit of few at the expense of the many.

 

boomer55

(592 posts)
5. not alone as an independent country. part of a UN mandate and part of the international community
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:18 PM
Aug 2013

Yes.

not alone

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
6. That's my view on Syria
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:19 PM
Aug 2013

but I would have supported intervention to stop those two genocides regardless, but of course hindsight is 20/20.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
26. Wait a minute
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 02:59 PM
Aug 2013

are you seriously saying that if you knew the nazis were throwing people into ovens - millions of people - you would wait for the approval of some other body to want to act?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. I'm sorry,
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 02:41 PM
Aug 2013

did I miss where we got involved unilaterally in Rwanda? If so, please enlighten me.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. Just point out for those that missed it
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 02:44 PM
Aug 2013

that we didn't. I was hoping that if we did I didn't somehow miss it somewhere along the line.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
23. I didn't realize I was expected to give remedial lessons in US history
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 02:49 PM
Aug 2013

I expect to be paid for that.

Supersedeas

(20,630 posts)
7. Incarceration rate?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:22 PM
Aug 2013

You might have noticed that this country has a significant organized crime, violent crime, sexual offender populace, and gang presence and violence connected with turf wars--not to mention white collar crime and tax evaders. How US incarcerations relate to the Secretary of State's speech about Syria puzzles me?

 

boomer55

(592 posts)
12. its only 1 example of the serious problems in our own country that we ignore. Maybe we should
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:30 PM
Aug 2013

take some of those trillions spent on attacking other countries that have never attacked us and spend it on our own citizens needs?

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
17. Well it is certainly not because we aren't incarcerating
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 02:36 PM
Aug 2013

enough people or don't have more than enough laws. I doubt it is because Americans are inherently prone to criminal activities.

Perhaps it is time to look at other options to address our problems.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
11. It is indeed appalling that it was impossible for you to post this... wait, hang on!
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:30 PM
Aug 2013

You just disproved your own claim.

What I suspect you mean is not "we can't talk about" but "other people choose to talk about things other than".

Which is a whole different kettle of fish.

 

wild bird

(421 posts)
29. Why would the Administration speak about Israel's nukes?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:14 PM
Aug 2013

It has nothing to do with Syria.
And, Israeli nukes aren't in danger of falling into unfriendly hands.

 

yoloisalie

(55 posts)
15. But But
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:41 PM
Aug 2013

Israel is not signatory to the Nuclear NPT, the same way Syria is not with the Ban on chemical weapon use. But remember, its one standard for our friends and another for our enemies. Btw I do not believe the Syria govt used chemical weapons on its people and I am sure the reason they did not sign it is because they know they will never get a fair treatment from the west.

And lookie, we already blamed them for a chemical attack before the dust had settles, sent in 5 warships while investigators are still on the ground. I cannot blame them for the actions they've taken so far

 

wild bird

(421 posts)
28. What do Israeli nukes have to do with the civil war in Syria?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:09 PM
Aug 2013

I agree that we shouldn't get involved in Syria, but Israeli nukes has nothing to do with Syria, so why the distraction?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
30. Yes. It's high time for USA to get it's own house in order
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:15 PM
Aug 2013

before ordering other nations around, as to their "obscene" atrocities.

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