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TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:07 PM Aug 2013

Since Monday I've seen the % of the public who want action in Syria quoted at

9% on Monday

25% on Wednesday

70% on Friday

And 80% today.

from various news sources.


That's quite a swing in popular opinion, don't'cha think? Which percentage do you belong to?

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Since Monday I've seen the % of the public who want action in Syria quoted at (Original Post) TalkingDog Aug 2013 OP
The against column from before the polls began until Obama attacks. morningfog Aug 2013 #1
I find it hard to believe such a swing. delrem Aug 2013 #2
It depends on how it's asked MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #3
Oh I get the game of "how it's worded" I'm just amused at the parabolic trajectory of public opinion TalkingDog Aug 2013 #4
So ridic. As if even 10% of the public is paying attention in August. reformist2 Aug 2013 #5
how about you post links to these 4 different polls. Were they online polls at CNN? Pew Polls? What? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #6
I'll second that request. nt MH1 Sep 2013 #32
NBC poll: Nearly 80 percent want congressional approval on Syria. Is that your 80% KittyWampus Aug 2013 #7
50% of 700 say US should NOT take military action- yesterday NBC KittyWampus Aug 2013 #8
Ya got links to all that? gristy Aug 2013 #9
50 percent favor that kind of intervention (From Friday) TalkingDog Aug 2013 #13
Support for US Intervention in Syria at 9% - Reuters/Ipsos Poll (From Monday) TalkingDog Aug 2013 #15
I just googled and didn't find a single source saying more than half would approve military action KittyWampus Aug 2013 #10
I said Action: that can mean intervention or military action. TalkingDog Aug 2013 #17
1-People are learning more about the situation in Syria, and 2-This President JaneyVee Aug 2013 #11
It isn't about the US, it's about Syria and international law. delrem Aug 2013 #12
Not illegal. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #16
You have no right to make that decision unilaterally. Nor does Pres. Obama. delrem Aug 2013 #18
R2P JaneyVee Aug 2013 #23
So you advise the bombing of the USA?? Is that it? delrem Aug 2013 #26
Isn't the only thing stopping the UN Security Council from giving a go ahead JaneyVee Sep 2013 #33
The security council has yet to vote, and I doubt the US will bother asking for a vote. delrem Sep 2013 #34
What legal fig leaf would you use to cover it? MNBrewer Aug 2013 #21
How would it be legal? morningfog Aug 2013 #24
I'm with the 91% and the British Parliament who oppose it. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #14
Amen TalkingDog Aug 2013 #20
I am also gopiscrap Aug 2013 #27
Yeah, I didn't get polled again. Count me out. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #29
maybe if they broadcast more footage of dead babies into peoples houses BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #19
What about the 'moral slumber' of the British, Germans, Brazilians, Indonesians? reformist2 Aug 2013 #25
i was being facetious BOG PERSON Sep 2013 #30
Perhaps it's because the media war drum is actually awakening the slumbering... libdem4life Aug 2013 #22
I'd like links to these stats... Agschmid Aug 2013 #28
80% want congress to decide. But it is being framed as: decide to take action. TalkingDog Sep 2013 #31

delrem

(9,688 posts)
2. I find it hard to believe such a swing.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:22 PM
Aug 2013

If it's true, it's hopeless -- the 1% has total mind control over the US population.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
3. It depends on how it's asked
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:27 PM
Aug 2013

"Should the US become involved in Syria?"
"Should the US conduct very limited airstrikes in response to 1500 Syrians civilians being gassed?"
Etc.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
4. Oh I get the game of "how it's worded" I'm just amused at the parabolic trajectory of public opinion
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:33 PM
Aug 2013

Waiting to see how quickly he gets 127% support.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. how about you post links to these 4 different polls. Were they online polls at CNN? Pew Polls? What?
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:38 PM
Aug 2013

Otherwise, I call your OP a fabrication.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. NBC poll: Nearly 80 percent want congressional approval on Syria. Is that your 80%
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:39 PM
Aug 2013

NBC poll: Nearly 80 percent want congressional approval on Syria

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
8. 50% of 700 say US should NOT take military action- yesterday NBC
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:41 PM
Aug 2013

Americans say they don't want the U.S. to strike Syria, but that they could support a limited action that did not risk the lives of American soldiers, according to recent polls.

In a new survey from NBC, 50 percent of 700 respondents said the U.S. should not take "military action" in Syria, while 42 percent said the U.S. should.

But opinions changed when participants were asked about airstrikes launched from U.S. ships, without involving ground troops or U.S. planes flying over Syria.

Asked their opinion about a mission "limited to airstrikes using cruise missiles launched from U.S. naval ships that were meant to destroy military units and infrastructure that have been used to carry out chemical attacks," 50 percent said they would support such an action, while 40 percent said they would not.

A full 79 percent, meanwhile, said President Obama should be required to gain approval from Congress for any kind of strike against Syria.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
13. 50 percent favor that kind of intervention (From Friday)
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:53 PM
Aug 2013
But the public is more supportive of military action when it's limited to launching cruise missiles from U.S. naval ships — 50 percent favor that kind of intervention, while 44 percent oppose i
t.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/30/20256971-nbc-poll-nearly-80-percent-want-congressional-approval-on-syria?lite

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
17. I said Action: that can mean intervention or military action.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:00 PM
Aug 2013

The polls and the spin are all over the map. That's my only point.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
11. 1-People are learning more about the situation in Syria, and 2-This President
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:42 PM
Aug 2013

Is very trusted by the American people to do what is in our Nations best interest.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
12. It isn't about the US, it's about Syria and international law.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:52 PM
Aug 2013

A unilateral "punishment bombing" by the US is illegal.
The US has *no* moral authority after what it did in Iraq.
The US President *absolved* the previous admin of war crimes in Iraq, so has *no* moral authority whatsoever.

That's sad news, but it's true.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
18. You have no right to make that decision unilaterally. Nor does Pres. Obama.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:00 PM
Aug 2013

Quite frankly, I don't think you know what you're saying.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
26. So you advise the bombing of the USA?? Is that it?
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:34 PM
Aug 2013

Or do you think that the USA is somehow "special" and has the right to commit war crimes at will, and to police the world unilaterally as judge, jury, and executioner?

eta: R2P - "The authority to employ the last resort and intervene militarily rests solely with United Nations Security Council."

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
33. Isn't the only thing stopping the UN Security Council from giving a go ahead
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 03:45 PM
Sep 2013

Russia and China? Otoh, I also believe in a congressional vote and an outcome from the UN inspectors.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
34. The security council has yet to vote, and I doubt the US will bother asking for a vote.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:03 PM
Sep 2013

Russia and China are a large part of the world. Do you think South American countries want to see another US war of conquest? I doubt they do.

A congressional vote doesn't give the US the right to bomb a country that hasn't attacked the US. That's why the security council matters, and why the US, being a rogue state that attacks countries at will, will avoid it.

BOG PERSON

(2,916 posts)
19. maybe if they broadcast more footage of dead babies into peoples houses
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:03 PM
Aug 2013

it will rouse us from our moral slumber

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
25. What about the 'moral slumber' of the British, Germans, Brazilians, Indonesians?
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:33 PM
Aug 2013

This absurd notion that we're the policeman of the world is over. o-v-e-r.

BOG PERSON

(2,916 posts)
30. i was being facetious
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 01:07 AM
Sep 2013

the media fixation on context-less images of death and devastation borders on the salacious

i'm honestly happy the american public hasnt yet been disoriented by the shaky cam coverage of syria - that and persistent international pressure are the only things that forced obama to pass the buck to congress

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
22. Perhaps it's because the media war drum is actually awakening the slumbering...
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:12 PM
Aug 2013

and that's a good thing !! War...what's it good for...absolutely nothing !!! It's their war, not ours. There is no case to be made when confronted with reality ... which the US masses got sooner rather than later.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
28. I'd like links to these stats...
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:38 PM
Aug 2013

I feel as if they are not correct... I see in the comment above about 80% want approval?

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
31. 80% want congress to decide. But it is being framed as: decide to take action.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 09:04 AM
Sep 2013

All they are doing is drumming up support to stuff the pockets of Raytheon stockholders. Many of whom own things like TV and newspaper.

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