Officials OK rule to force fracking on NC landowners (unbelievable!)

[theHandpuppet]

I simply can't believe this crap can be forced upon property owners. If NC succeeds in this, which states will be next to try it?

Officials OK rule to force fracking on NC landowners
Published: August 28, 2013
By John Murawski — [e-mail]

RALEIGH — North Carolina landowners would be forced to sell the natural gas under their homes and farms – whether they want to or not – under a fracking recommendation approved Wednesday that’s expected to be enacted by the state legislature this fall.

The proposal by a state study group endorses a rarely used 1945 law that’s never been tried here on the kind of scale that would be required for shale gas exploration, or fracking. Thousands of property owners could potentially be affected in the state’s gas-rich midsection in Lee, Moore and Chatham counties.

The recommendation, dealing with one of the most emotional fracking issues, bypasses the N.C. Mining and Energy Commission, which holds regular public hearings on protecting the public and safeguarding the environment, and goes to the legislature.

“We are talking about a for-profit industry taking away personal freedoms with the blessing of the government,” Therese Vick, a community activist with the Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League, told the Compulsory Pooling Study Group. “Personal freedoms are seldom on the radar when the gas companies come to town.”

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/28/3145187/officials-ok-rule-to-force-fracking.html#storylink=cpy

[LuvNewcastle]

1. I wonder how much the people of NC are going to endure

before there's finally a backlash. Seems like it ought to be soon, but it takes a while for Americans to catch up, unfortunately.

[AlbertCat]

3. but it takes a while for Americans to catch up, unfortunately.

Well, with the amount of misinformation and fear tactics spread deeply all over the media (with money from Art Pope) it takes a while for anyone to know what's what. And as usual, not until it effects them personally....

Of course there have been nonstop protests (Moral Mondays) but, of course again, the two faced governor and the mad with power legislature don't care what the people of NC want or need.

NC is being PUNISHED for voting for Obama in '08 and for nearly doing it in '12. Punished.


The race to the bottom continueth apace.

Welcome to North Popelina!

[theHandpuppet]

6. The NC legislature has gone totally mad with power

Let's see if the voters of NC will rise up and boot them out!

[Iliyah]

2. WI, MI, TX and other run goper states

surely know how to eff their state and its people and feel no pain doing so. With all the fracking, these states that are allowing fracking may create a great divide with no water to boot and by great divide, land breaking apart.

[AllyCat]

15. They want our sand. And water here in WI

[riversedge]

18. I really fear for our water resources here in Wisconsin.

[rhett o rick]

4. And we think we are free. nm

[SoulSearcher]

9. ditto

- ongoing facial recognition program in many states to get a state DL
(100mill+ records now, instituted by Bush)
- NSA capture of all digital communications (not just cell/phone metadata,
but capture of digital-muxed call-content also)
- cell-phone location capture
- weekly uploads of all tag-camera data ( "all" as in all cars that pass
a police-cruiser camera's id of tag/car/person travels)
- drones, et al..
- cameras, et al (a _lot_ of "all&quot

This is supposed to help I understand.
Does it help protect citizens, or help to 'manage' them?
I guess both, but am not sure about the freedom definition anymore.

[Gman]

5. They paid damn good money for those politicians

They're getting their money's worth.

[reformist2]

7. Can I get a WTF?

[valerief]

8. Very rich people must get richer. It's a law of physics or something. nt

[theHandpuppet]

11. And they've already figured out how to squeeze out every dime

Another excerpt from the article, exposing this bamboozle:

The study group recommended that such property owners be given the option of accepting a standard royalty of 12.5 percent on the value of their prorated share of the gas for as long as the well produces gas.

Another option is to pay them a fraction of the value of the gas until the energy company recovers that property owner’s presumed share of the cost of drilling the well. After the well is paid for, the landowner would be paid the full value of their share.

It could take a forcibly pooled property owner months or even years to pay off the bill: Drilling a well roughly costs between $8,000 and $12,000 per acre in a 1-square mile drilling unit.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/28/3145187/officials-ok-rule-to-force-fracking.html#storylink=cpy

As some landowners in Ohio are already finding out, the monies they're supposed to get after the companies "recoup their investment" somehow never materializes. All they're left with is a bunch of ruined land.

[Rebellious Republican]

13. Spot on valerief!

[mopinko]

10. hopefully this gets tied up in the courts for a decade or 2

i know i sure hell would fight like mad if they tried it on my little bit of land.

[theHandpuppet]

12. But what would really happen if someone resisted?

Could they be arrested? Forced off their land? Just how far-reaching could this law be?

[truedelphi]

17. In Texas, the fracking forces simply get eminent domain applied.

At least one person in TX has lost their land and home due to the "eminent domain" BS!

And our Supreme Court has already ruled on the right of Corporations' ability to use "eminent domain" to get whatever they want. BTW, the Dems on SCOTUS were worse than the "R"s in the ruling!

[WinstonSmith4740]

14. My sister lives in Raleigh.

She unfortunately tends votes for anyone with an "R" after their name. However, I think the light may be dawning with everything those crazies are doing in NC. Hopefully, this will help it along.

[safeinOhio]

16. Funny how that works.

The state of michigan leased all the land under the lakes area of very red oakland county. Turned a bunch of "drill here, drill now" republicans into evromentalist.