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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf your kid brings a gun to school,
you and that kid should go to jail.Not for a long time, but enough to get your and your kid's attention.
We have cops posted at entrances, we have metal detectors, and still we have kid's getting killed because some parent decided his/her kid would never, ever do anything so stupid.
I wonder if the parents of the kid's in Ohio might agree ?
BTW, I don't care how many guns you own....Keep the damn things locked up.
michreject
(4,378 posts)None are locked up.
If I wanted a paperweight, I would have bought an anchor.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)After all, you may not be able to get to the portion of the room where the gun is....
Think about it...you're on the crapper, you hear an intruder, and the gun you need is across the bathroom, concealed in the the laundry hamper. You don't want to mess yourself (good thing you are on the crapper!) and you don't want to trip over your pants, which are around your ankles....
I would take no chances. I would carry at all times.
michreject
(4,378 posts)I have a Kahr P380 in the pocket of my sweats. My wife doesn't though.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)...have an accident.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Having to have "protection" at all times, it's just, really sad.
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)The rifle and the shotgun are kept identically, full magazine but not chambered. The revolver in the nightstand is loaded, but the action is open. Big difference though--I don't have any angry, disturbed teenager in my house.
That said, I grew up knowing that my father kept a loaded rifle in the top of the bedroom closet. I never messed with it. Why? Because I knew it wasn't a toy. Parents leaving their guns unlocked is much less a contributor to this sort of thing than parents leaving their kids alone.
elleng
(130,861 posts)Jerks! Idiots!
Swamp Lover
(431 posts)Somthing has to be done to make gun owners take responsibility for the guns they own.
Various 'manslaughters'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter
Swamp Lover
(431 posts)the parent was in on it or should have known (kid was talking about it etc). The parent could and should be held civilly liable, however, for making a weapon avbailable to his kid by not locking them up or taking steps to secure them.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)You're bad-mouthing the holy relics of our national religion. You may have to do penance for blasphemy.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)stole a police officers unlocked weapon and boxes of bullets from his home. that someone sold the weapon to a convicted felon.
it does`t matter who you are. lock your weapon and bullets up. trigger locks are made for a purpose.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)The gun supporters will be on deck.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)I don't think anyone can make any such assumption.
Both my parents were alcoholics. I could have gone to school naked with an M16 across my shoulders and neither one would have even noticed.
Fortunately, I was not that that kind of kid.
Bad parenting has many faces.
Nor can you assume that these parents didn't do almost everything right and still wound up with a demon spawn. I've seen it in families--perfectly nice, apparently well-adjusted family. 2 kids are pleasant, average, do their schoolwork and some sports, and one kid goes completely off the rails.
The best parenting advice I ever got is that whether you make them or buy them, kids are a crap shoot. Plan accordingly and do your best.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)have guns? keep them away from irresponsible people--which include your kids.--duh
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)pitohui
(20,564 posts)nobody gets to go to the store and pick out in advance what kind of kid they have, or nobody would have a crazy kid to begin with
it does seem to me that if i was unlucky enough to get a crazy kid, i wouldn't want to have a gun handy, but i don't know how big or crazy this kid was or how frightened the parent who owned the gun might be, and not knowing anything about those factors, i'm hesitant to say much more
there is a way to give up a cute harmless baby for adoption but it is not necessarily so easy to give up a dangerous teen-ager, in fact, i know someone who was told she would be charged with child abandonment if she gave up her teen-ager to state custody
so i don't want to rush to judgment of the parent just yet, if i learn more, yes, i may learn the parent was a slob gun owner who needs to be charged but right now i'm going to say, i believe we should take these things case by case
lacrew
(283 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)The school knew the Rifle Team members were bringing rifles to school - they encouraged it, since the school did not provide rifles for team members. There were no deaths at that school and have been no deaths at that school. Should rifle teams be disbanded?
oldhippie
(3,249 posts)... on the school bus. Kept them in my locker during the day until rifle team practice. Nobody cared a whit. Also carried a pocket knife of one type or another in my pocket every day of school. Nobody ever got cut.
This was in the 60's.
REP
(21,691 posts)Kablooie
(18,625 posts)Anton Chekov - or something.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)went squirrel hunting afterwards quite a bit. funny thing is, never once thought about shooting anyone with it...or any gun for that matter.
sP
YellowRubberDuckie
(19,736 posts)...from the teachers and the principals who were most likely allowing the bullying to continue and not doing a damned thing about it than he was from his parents.
That said, I don't know all the details, but after what I've learned from the kids who committed the travesty at Columbine, I'm thinking the blame does not solely lie with the kids with the guns in most of these school shootings, but then, that's just my impression.
Duckie
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Thugs often tend to find other ways to arm themselves than taking firearms from their parents.