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russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:39 PM Feb 2012

If your kid brings a gun to school,

you and that kid should go to jail.
Not for a long time, but enough to get your and your kid's attention.
We have cops posted at entrances, we have metal detectors, and still we have kid's getting killed because some parent decided his/her kid would never, ever do anything so stupid.
I wonder if the parents of the kid's in Ohio might agree ?

BTW, I don't care how many guns you own....Keep the damn things locked up.

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If your kid brings a gun to school, (Original Post) russspeakeasy Feb 2012 OP
I have a loaded gun in every room in my house michreject Feb 2012 #1
Wouldn't it just be easier to carry a single, loaded gun with you at all times while at home? msanthrope Feb 2012 #12
I do michreject Feb 2012 #14
Hope you never... ellisonz Feb 2012 #18
I actually feel sorry for people who feel so unsafe in this way. joshcryer Feb 2012 #21
I have a bunch in my bedroom. TheWraith Feb 2012 #22
Damn right keep the damn things locked up! elleng Feb 2012 #2
Criminal charges are not possible, but you can bet there will be a civil suit. Swamp Lover Feb 2012 #3
??? elleng Feb 2012 #7
No way a prosecutor goes after a parent because his kid killed someone unless Swamp Lover Feb 2012 #15
Careful gratuitous Feb 2012 #4
i know of someone at the age of 15... madrchsod Feb 2012 #5
Put your Teflon suit liberal N proud Feb 2012 #6
you're assuming that these parents were/are present and responsible lapislzi Feb 2012 #8
Kids may be a "crap shoot", but trigger locks are pretty dependable. russspeakeasy Feb 2012 #11
your responsibility wendylaroux Feb 2012 #9
Even if the kid in question didn't bring the gun from home? 11 Bravo Feb 2012 #10
eh, i don't think you should go to jail for the acts of another person pitohui Feb 2012 #13
To add a variant to this discussion, this kid lived with his grandparents lacrew Feb 2012 #16
My husband took a gun to school every week in high school; he was on the Rifle Team REP Feb 2012 #17
I took a .22 rifle, and ammo, to high school 3 days a week ... oldhippie Feb 2012 #24
My husband did it in the '80s. REP Feb 2012 #26
If a kid introduces a gun in first period, it must go off by the last. Kablooie Feb 2012 #19
we brought guns to school most days ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2012 #20
I wonder if the bullied outcast who pulled the trigger was looking for attention... YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #23
Presuming they are the parent's guns ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #25

michreject

(4,378 posts)
1. I have a loaded gun in every room in my house
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:43 PM
Feb 2012

None are locked up.

If I wanted a paperweight, I would have bought an anchor.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
12. Wouldn't it just be easier to carry a single, loaded gun with you at all times while at home?
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:53 PM
Feb 2012

After all, you may not be able to get to the portion of the room where the gun is....

Think about it...you're on the crapper, you hear an intruder, and the gun you need is across the bathroom, concealed in the the laundry hamper. You don't want to mess yourself (good thing you are on the crapper!) and you don't want to trip over your pants, which are around your ankles....

I would take no chances. I would carry at all times.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
21. I actually feel sorry for people who feel so unsafe in this way.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:36 PM
Feb 2012

Having to have "protection" at all times, it's just, really sad.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
22. I have a bunch in my bedroom.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:38 PM
Feb 2012

The rifle and the shotgun are kept identically, full magazine but not chambered. The revolver in the nightstand is loaded, but the action is open. Big difference though--I don't have any angry, disturbed teenager in my house.

That said, I grew up knowing that my father kept a loaded rifle in the top of the bedroom closet. I never messed with it. Why? Because I knew it wasn't a toy. Parents leaving their guns unlocked is much less a contributor to this sort of thing than parents leaving their kids alone.

 

Swamp Lover

(431 posts)
3. Criminal charges are not possible, but you can bet there will be a civil suit.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:44 PM
Feb 2012

Somthing has to be done to make gun owners take responsibility for the guns they own.

 

Swamp Lover

(431 posts)
15. No way a prosecutor goes after a parent because his kid killed someone unless
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 06:05 PM
Feb 2012

the parent was in on it or should have known (kid was talking about it etc). The parent could and should be held civilly liable, however, for making a weapon avbailable to his kid by not locking them up or taking steps to secure them.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Careful
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:44 PM
Feb 2012

You're bad-mouthing the holy relics of our national religion. You may have to do penance for blasphemy.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
5. i know of someone at the age of 15...
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:45 PM
Feb 2012

stole a police officers unlocked weapon and boxes of bullets from his home. that someone sold the weapon to a convicted felon.

it does`t matter who you are. lock your weapon and bullets up. trigger locks are made for a purpose.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
8. you're assuming that these parents were/are present and responsible
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:48 PM
Feb 2012

I don't think anyone can make any such assumption.

Both my parents were alcoholics. I could have gone to school naked with an M16 across my shoulders and neither one would have even noticed.

Fortunately, I was not that that kind of kid.

Bad parenting has many faces.

Nor can you assume that these parents didn't do almost everything right and still wound up with a demon spawn. I've seen it in families--perfectly nice, apparently well-adjusted family. 2 kids are pleasant, average, do their schoolwork and some sports, and one kid goes completely off the rails.

The best parenting advice I ever got is that whether you make them or buy them, kids are a crap shoot. Plan accordingly and do your best.

pitohui

(20,564 posts)
13. eh, i don't think you should go to jail for the acts of another person
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:54 PM
Feb 2012

nobody gets to go to the store and pick out in advance what kind of kid they have, or nobody would have a crazy kid to begin with

it does seem to me that if i was unlucky enough to get a crazy kid, i wouldn't want to have a gun handy, but i don't know how big or crazy this kid was or how frightened the parent who owned the gun might be, and not knowing anything about those factors, i'm hesitant to say much more

there is a way to give up a cute harmless baby for adoption but it is not necessarily so easy to give up a dangerous teen-ager, in fact, i know someone who was told she would be charged with child abandonment if she gave up her teen-ager to state custody

so i don't want to rush to judgment of the parent just yet, if i learn more, yes, i may learn the parent was a slob gun owner who needs to be charged but right now i'm going to say, i believe we should take these things case by case

REP

(21,691 posts)
17. My husband took a gun to school every week in high school; he was on the Rifle Team
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:11 PM
Feb 2012

The school knew the Rifle Team members were bringing rifles to school - they encouraged it, since the school did not provide rifles for team members. There were no deaths at that school and have been no deaths at that school. Should rifle teams be disbanded?

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
24. I took a .22 rifle, and ammo, to high school 3 days a week ...
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:50 PM
Feb 2012

... on the school bus. Kept them in my locker during the day until rifle team practice. Nobody cared a whit. Also carried a pocket knife of one type or another in my pocket every day of school. Nobody ever got cut.

This was in the 60's.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
20. we brought guns to school most days
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:30 PM
Feb 2012

went squirrel hunting afterwards quite a bit. funny thing is, never once thought about shooting anyone with it...or any gun for that matter.

sP

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
23. I wonder if the bullied outcast who pulled the trigger was looking for attention...
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:41 PM
Feb 2012

...from the teachers and the principals who were most likely allowing the bullying to continue and not doing a damned thing about it than he was from his parents.
That said, I don't know all the details, but after what I've learned from the kids who committed the travesty at Columbine, I'm thinking the blame does not solely lie with the kids with the guns in most of these school shootings, but then, that's just my impression.
Duckie

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
25. Presuming they are the parent's guns
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:11 AM
Feb 2012

Thugs often tend to find other ways to arm themselves than taking firearms from their parents.

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