You all do realize that if McCain or Romney were the President---bombs would have already fallen.

[trumad]

SO ---can't we give Obama credit for that not happening?

[KittyWampus]

1. Yes, and I can also give Kerry credit for working his ass off trying to resolve this well before

the Damascus attack.

[joshcryer]

2. I think the operative word is "yet."

Obama gets a lot of crap for proposing doing something that he winds up not doing in the end, heh.

Let's hope this is one of those instances!

[trumad]

3. I think we the people have a lot to do with his changing his mind.

[joshcryer]

6. I think sometimes he knows they won't go over well.

Such as the case of Chained-CPI.

I think in this case he thought he had the backing of the American people, or at least wanted to throw a balloon trial out there. But deep down he doesn't want to do anything, and is afraid to appear weak on the world stage.

[jessie04]

4. No...we can't .

I've read more negative RW crap about Obama HERE than about the sicko dictator Assad .

Yes, repugs aren't the only one who engage in cannabalism.

[Bluenorthwest]

11. If you see RW talking points, alert for they are against the TOS

But I think what you see is people who don't agree with you. Making ugly comments about this community and the way the admins run this site is an interesting way to persuade.

[jessie04]

15. Not so much against this site...more against Kerry and Obama.

nt

[Warren Stupidity]

28. Right a lot of us strongly oppose warmongering.

Which, opposition to war mongering, is by characterized by you as "rightwing".

[Bluenorthwest]

30. The ugly comments about this community are in YOUR posts and words.

Unsupported sliming of DU and those who run it. Because some do not agree with you, you attack and characterize. It is ugly.

[sabrina 1]

32. I've seen that also. Support for another invasion in the ME IS Right Wing

or it used to be.

This isn't about politicians, it is about LIVES, human beings. I remember when you would not find one supporter for ME invasions on this forum.

It's disturbing now to see some here so supportive of what Democrats voted to try to end.

I hope the President did this to find a way NOT to interfere where we have no business interfering and let Congress end any more talk of this.

If you care so much about dictators, I have a list for you. Way worse than Syria. But some of them are our ALLIES so I guess we turn a blind eye to massacres depending on where they are and who is responsible.

Eg, there was no doubt, as there is with Syria, that Karamov of Uzbekistan killed his own people simply for peacefully protesting. Yet we send him money every year and have been completely silent about this particularly brutal dictator.

So the world knows the US doesn't care about 'massacres'. We haven't prosecuted our own War Criminals and we support Dictators with arms and money.

So let's show we really do care by completely changing our Foreign policies, end all of our support for Dictators around the world and start prosecuting our War Criminals who have been allowed to go free without any fear of 'consequences'.

[Motown_Johnny]

5. Hell, McCain always wants to use military force, or escalate or extend...

If it were up to McCain we would still be in Iraq, would be increasing forces in Afghanistan and might have invaded Iran. We would also have boots on the ground in Libya and Egypt.

[trumad]

8. I think we would have invaded or bombed Iran.

The guy is a Ne0-Con on Steroids.

[Jefferson23]

21. McCain would bomb Vermont, damn socialist commies and all. n/t

[truebluegreen]

25. Don't forget Georgia!

We are all Georgians now.

[Motown_Johnny]

38. I did forget Georgia, my bad.

To many to keep track of.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. So those urging fast action are boosting the Mitt/McCain view?

Those urging judicious thinking are boosting the Obama method?

[trumad]

9. Look---I think Obama wants to blow Assad's shit up...

but I think the dude ain't a happy trigger fool like McCain and Romney.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. I agree, but my comment was not about Obama but about those who are boosting instant response.

They agree with MittCain. It's fairly clear.

[99Forever]

10. What's your point?

Lessor of two evils?

Wonderful.

[trumad]

17. Point is--- one evil ain't trigger happy

the other is.

true?

[99Forever]

20. Apparently, he still has his finger on the trigger...

... and it's itching.

Seems you didn't catch (or are deliberately ignoring) the Weasel Words part of his "call for Congressional authorization" speech, eh?

Wadda surprise.

[trumad]

37. But---he hasn't pulled it...correct.

The other guys would have pulled it 2 months ago.

[99Forever]

40. A distinction without much of a difference.

Save it for the True Believers, the rest of us are not buying it anymore.

[Fuddnik]

18. Evil is still Evil.

[99Forever]

24. Exactly.

No matter how many times the lying liars try to pretend it isn't so, that truth is the truth.

[Andy823]

12. Some here can never give him credit

All they want to do is attack, attack, attack, and post all kinds of BS from sources that are so questionable even faux news wouldn't use them, simply because for some reasons they just can't stand the president. These people have gone off the deep end, and there is no coming back. They are so obvious with their ODS that anyone can tell they have their own agenda, and nothing can change their minds. It's really getting pathetic if you ask me.

[trumad]

19. Yep---

he ain't done shit yet...but boy have they thrown him off the bus.

[Andy823]

23. Off the bus

Under the bus, and ran over him a few hundred times, and still they are not happy! ODS is a terrible thing to have.

[ZombieHorde]

34. When it comes to war, you want to start protesting before the murders begin. nt

[frylock]

39. some here can never give the anti-war left credit either..

do you think if people just STFU like many here would have us do that we wouldn't be seeing some shockingly awesome missile strikes by now?

[Safetykitten]

14. If the three moons of Galzor aligned the way they should of...

and then earth was in that certain spot...when the earth formed, we would have a pink sky.

[GeorgeGist]

16. Yeah but ...

they would have bombed Iran.

[HardTimes99]

22. McInsane or RMoney would have re-launched Operation Barbarossa by now, Syria (and Iran)

being mere playgrounds compared to the 'big prize.'

We'd currently be bogged down around a little town on the Volga called Stalingrad, probably with the same results as v 1.0.

[Warren Stupidity]

26. I gave him credit. Many others have too.

I think going to congress was the right thing to do on many levels. I'm still against a war on Syria, congressional approval or not.

[DrDan]

27. I realize this would be pretty radical around here, but I believe I will withhold credit/blame right

now and let this play out.

[Puzzledtraveller]

29. just wait

[Half-Century Man]

31. Romney would have privatized the military...

...the ***lyal group would have opened a privatized prison recruited military. Who would be running around a foreign country spreading American good cheer at the point of a bayonet, right now.

Romney was/is a fanatic of PAX AMERICANA

[BootinUp]

33. If it was McCain, we'd already be dropping em in Iran

Syria would have happened months ago.

[leftstreet]

35. And Democrats would be out in the streets protesting n/t

[SidDithers]

36. Even when Obama does the right thing...

it's, apparently, for the wrong reason.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023574727



Sid

[daleo]

41. I agree there

Obama has been like most Democratic presidents of my time - less eager for war, thinks harder about it, tries to keep it more limited, but is still somewhat susceptible to the sire sound of war drums. I give him credit for that, as I gave Carter and Clinton credit.

[polichick]

42. So far we can give Obama credit for avoiding impeachment by...

going to Congress.

[1-Old-Man]

43. So the difference between Republicans bombing and Democrats bombing is about 2 weeks.

[LordGlenconner]

44. You presume his critics here don't want him to bomb Syria

When in reality, many probably want him to do just that . That's because bombing Syria, at least in their eyes, would feed into their narrative that Obama is evil/Third way/GOP, or whatever the slur of the day is.