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How pathetic that Obama is aligning himself with McCain and Graham (Original Post) MoonRiver Sep 2013 OP
Hawks of a feather...... Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #1
aligning ? kardonb Sep 2013 #35
Consulting? He was asking for their endorsement of the attack on Syria. And he got it. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #45
strange bedfellows Supersedeas Sep 2013 #43
Yes, Neo-DU is pathetic. nt tridim Sep 2013 #2
They didn't sound like they were "aligning" when they gave their press conference. kentuck Sep 2013 #3
that's how the game is played: if everyone has the same goals they can rip into each other as much MisterP Sep 2013 #13
Then the tea party must really love Obama. They are ripping him all the time. n/t pampango Sep 2013 #19
exact same thought, at about the same moment bigtree Sep 2013 #4
Yep MoonRiver Sep 2013 #8
How pathetic that you think he is doing that! MineralMan Sep 2013 #5
Are they not all in agreement about bombing Syria? MoonRiver Sep 2013 #10
As you will discover before long, there will be many who agree on that, MineralMan Sep 2013 #11
All I know is those are the two he is specifically aligning himself with, MoonRiver Sep 2013 #12
So you think he should align himself with Rand Paul? bornskeptic Sep 2013 #30
Are those his only choices for alignment? MoonRiver Sep 2013 #38
Kind of like the Snowden=Paul Bot meme? nt NorthCarolina Sep 2013 #34
Have we entered Bizzarro world? exboyfil Sep 2013 #6
Yes we did - December 2000. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #16
Actually, January 1981. Ancient history, eh? - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #20
That one was a pretty bad dimensional slip, wasn't it? How do we knock it back into a Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #37
mckook & lindseed want a real war.......Obama is the adult in the room spanone Sep 2013 #7
Agree. Also... kentuck Sep 2013 #9
Yeah. Obama is "the adult" because he only wants to drop a few bombs, bvar22 Sep 2013 #23
Well, McCain wants war and regime change. Which Senate Resolution will not give him. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #14
That's who he sent to Egypt to represent his administration so no surprise Catherina Sep 2013 #15
Two massive war-loving neocons LittleBlue Sep 2013 #17
PBO is aligned with American interests. White sheets McCain and Graham underthematrix Sep 2013 #18
American interests? Oh do please tell NightWatcher Sep 2013 #21
Please tell us exactly what the "American Interests" are in attacking Syria? bvar22 Sep 2013 #24
And you can tell the difference because Democrats are good and Republicans are bad? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #25
Those "American interests" leave out 99% of Americans. polichick Sep 2013 #28
John "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" McCain. progressoid Sep 2013 #22
You are confused. DCBob Sep 2013 #26
No I'm not confused. MoonRiver Sep 2013 #39
Your title is misleading.. DCBob Sep 2013 #41
PATHETIC is the word. DeSwiss Sep 2013 #27
Hyperbole much? cliffordu Sep 2013 #29
Obama deserves his own new war -- It's BS he is stuck with hand-me-downs! nt Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #31
Screw the neoconservative agenda. burnsei sensei Sep 2013 #32
This should not be about politics. wisteria Sep 2013 #33
Did you expect him to call Kucinich? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #36
Why not? Oh, wait MoonRiver Sep 2013 #40
Between sadly and desperate. Safetykitten Sep 2013 #42
and with both Clintons, Patreus, and Panetta AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #44
The War Machine Go Vols Sep 2013 #46
If true, that would be pathetic. McScam are a couple of idiots. But since it's not true, ecstatic Sep 2013 #47
 

kardonb

(777 posts)
35. aligning ?
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 06:11 PM
Sep 2013

he is consulting with them , as any statesman would do would do , with experienced men . I really get disgusted with all these folks just getting down on our president He has a very tough job . Nothing wrong about hearing from different points of view , and then making a decision , instead of shooting first , and then making excuses for your actions .

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
45. Consulting? He was asking for their endorsement of the attack on Syria. And he got it.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:48 AM
Sep 2013

Although not without the hawkish pair taking a few jabs at him for not being macho enough.

kentuck

(111,072 posts)
3. They didn't sound like they were "aligning" when they gave their press conference.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:35 PM
Sep 2013

They didn't have many kind words for the President, even though McCain said it would be 'catastrophic" if Congress did not vote with the President's request.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
13. that's how the game is played: if everyone has the same goals they can rip into each other as much
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:53 PM
Sep 2013

as they want
in fact, it helps cover up that they're representing the same interests
people were KILLED in the elections of Gilded-Age Buenos Aires, Chicago, and NYC--and it definitely wasn't because they were so ideologically divergent

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
5. How pathetic that you think he is doing that!
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:38 PM
Sep 2013

Truly. Agreement on one thing is not aligning oneself with anyone. Logical error.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
10. Are they not all in agreement about bombing Syria?
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:45 PM
Sep 2013

Are they not all trying to convince Congress and even the world that bombing Syria is the correct thing to do?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
12. All I know is those are the two he is specifically aligning himself with,
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:51 PM
Sep 2013

even as they insult and bash him. Like I said, pathetic.

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
30. So you think he should align himself with Rand Paul?
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 06:01 PM
Sep 2013

Why wouldn't that be just as pathetic, if that's your standard for judging people? But then you've chosen to align yourself with Rand Paul, so I guess you think Rand is OK.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
6. Have we entered Bizzarro world?
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:39 PM
Sep 2013

My most liberal and most conservative friend from High School agree - do not get into the Syrian conflict.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
37. That one was a pretty bad dimensional slip, wasn't it? How do we knock it back into a
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:05 PM
Sep 2013

saner one? Any ideas?

kentuck

(111,072 posts)
9. Agree. Also...
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:44 PM
Sep 2013

It is the President's job to "execute" the military strategy if he decides that he must. It is not the responsibility of the Senate or the House to execute the war once it begins. It is the responsibility of the President.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Yeah. Obama is "the adult" because he only wants to drop a few bombs,
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:13 PM
Sep 2013

and kill just a few Syrians.
The Republicans want to Kill them ALL.

Obama is going to meet them half way and only kill a few thousand!
The Great Compromiser!!!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
15. That's who he sent to Egypt to represent his administration so no surprise
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

True colors couldn't be more obvious right now unless DC is fresh out of Democrats.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
17. Two massive war-loving neocons
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 04:00 PM
Sep 2013

Or perhaps three?

If you thought we got the "fix the Middle East with bombing" shit out of our system by electing a Democrat, you thought wrong.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
21. American interests? Oh do please tell
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 04:21 PM
Sep 2013

Is "because Israel and Saudi Arabia want to bomb Syria" an American interest?

Please don't give me the shit that we care about a few hundred dead kids from chemical attack. Did you see how many people we killed in Iraq, Af/Pak, Yemen....?
We don't care about a few dead kids.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
24. Please tell us exactly what the "American Interests" are in attacking Syria?
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:22 PM
Sep 2013

I DO know that these same people tell me that we can't afford Meals-On-Wheels or Head Start or Social Security.

I DO know that Syria has not attacked us,
can NOT attack us,
hasn't threatened us,
and hasn't attacked anyone else for over 30 years.

So exactly WHAT are these "American Interests"?
Inquiring minds want to know.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. And you can tell the difference because Democrats are good and Republicans are bad?
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:29 PM
Sep 2013

Dont you think that's a little simplistic.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
26. You are confused.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:34 PM
Sep 2013

McCain and Graham want regime change. Obama is pushing for a limited punitive strike.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
39. No I'm not confused.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:27 PM
Sep 2013

They are aligned to promote attacking Syria, Obama in a limited way, Mc&G something more. Still an alignment.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
41. Your title is misleading..
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:37 PM
Sep 2013

it implies Obama is changing his position to be more in line with Mc&G. That is not accurate.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
27. PATHETIC is the word.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:41 PM
Sep 2013
- In fact, I almost feel sorry for him. I also thought he was smarter than this. I was wrong.

K&R

burnsei sensei

(1,820 posts)
32. Screw the neoconservative agenda.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 06:09 PM
Sep 2013

The course of action Obama wants will kill Americans, either here or there, but it will kill them.
Whether he's aware of it or not, whether he wants it or not, the attack on Syria plays right into the hands of Al-Nusra. They will celebrate the day it happens.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
44. and with both Clintons, Patreus, and Panetta
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:40 AM
Sep 2013
Warmongers come in all shapes and political proclivities. Obama proposes limited strikes, the others full-on war. It's the latter part that is noteworthy as being pathetic.

Obama Opposed Syria War Plan from Clinton, Petraeus, Panetta, Gen. Dempsey
http://www.thenation.com/blog/172774/obama-opposed-syria-war-plan-clinton-petraeus-panetta-gen-dempsey#

White House pushes back at Bill Clinton over Syria
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/13/white-house-pushes-back-at-bill-clinton-over-syria/

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
47. If true, that would be pathetic. McScam are a couple of idiots. But since it's not true,
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 01:14 AM
Sep 2013

I guess that just means your OP is pathetic?

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