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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKerry: Congress faces 'Munich moment'
Wow. Really? You want to stoke the flames using that? You're a piece of shit Mr. Kerry. Why not just bring up kristallnacht also and make a clean sweep.
http://goo.gl/2V2AIQ Link to what this once peace loving person said..
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Kerry needs a new PR team.
JHB
(37,157 posts)http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/09/16/liz-cheney-claims-obama-has-abandoned-czechoslo/189922
Romney Foreign Policy Adviser Attacks Obamas Czechoslovakia Policy
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/04/26/471692/romney-adviser-czechoslovakia/
McCain Keeps Mentioning Country That Hasnt Existed Since 1992
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/07/mccain-keeps-me/
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Its in the form of two states : Czech And Slovak Republics.
Aside from that we still use the expression "there's a Czech in the post"
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)He should be relieved of his position.
I said the same about Powell and Rice.
A SecState invoking Hitler at every turn is not acceptable.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)it seems people were desperate to prove that this wasn't done by Assad and now the use of chemical weapons are being used to absolve him. The false equivalencies ignore that the chemical weapons treaty bans specific agents. This is why it's critical to determine the agent used. The use of any toxic agent on civilians is egregious. The use of specific toxic agents violates the chemical weapons ban and is a serious violation of international law. This is why the specific uses are being cited.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Its a preference for proof as opposed to WH and media spin.
Few of us have forgotten the Kuwaiti incubators lie where the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the United States daughter's scammed Congress into believing she was a nurse who'd witnessed such an event.
The Link
(757 posts)Crimson76
(79 posts)As my former Senator, seriously just shut the fuck up.
Omaha Steve
(99,503 posts)Glad to see your not banned. The word "seriously" doesn't bother me at all.
OS
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)Secretary Kerry this is a low point. If you want Congress to vote for military strikes use a real argument. Even Congress doesn't deserve lazy Hitler arguments.
QC
(26,371 posts)It's hard to see how he can get much lower than this, though I'm sure he will manage.
HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)does violence to history itself.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Because the rebels hold most of the ground.
They are getting desperate.
Hence, the use of chemical weapons in Damascus where they should not have needed to use them.
Assad has shelled refugee camps.
It will get even more heinous.
There WILL be large scale civilian atrocities in the relatively near future.
From Der Spiegel today:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/situation-in-syria-deteriorates-as-west-looks-for-answers-a-919733-2.html
Yet, it is perhaps irrelevant who gave the order since the entire Syrian leadership is reportedly afraid that the defense lines will collapse. These fears have been fanned by a number of developments over the past few weeks: the unauthorized withdrawal of previously Assad-loyal militias to their Alawite villages; the feared rebel offensive; the declining morale of the regular troops; and the rising losses without military victories to show for them.
The poison gas attack was probably carried out by the 4th division of Assad's army. Experts and defectors agree that this is the only unit that possesses launching devices for chemical weapons. Immediately following the chemical attack, it shelled rebel positions with conventional artillery -- but was unable to take a single location.
Instead, the division lost at least seven tanks in the Damascus neighborhood of Harasta alone. A rebel video provides an insight into the lack of personnel among the elite division: Two crew members flee a burning tank -- but they are wearing no uniforms, no helmets and no radio gear. Shabiha militia members have apparently been forced to fill the gaps in the ranks of the army.
The images are highly significant and don't correspond with reports that Assad has strengthened his military position. Military experts and intelligence agents had been circulating this theory for months, ever since the battle for control of the small town of Qusayr in early summer. Under the leadership of over 1,000 fighters from the Shiite Hezbollah militia from Lebanon, Assad's troops were able to recapture Qusayr.
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Nevertheless, the myth of a military turning point in the regime's favor has persisted since June. This has also hampered the search for motives for the poison gas attack: Many observers wondered why Assad should use chemical weapons if he is winning the war already. In actual fact, the situation has been difficult for the regime's troops for quite some time now. Since the spring of 2012, many of the army's positions have only been supplied from the air because all land routes are under the control the rebels.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Anyway, as you say, whatever we do, Assad wil soon be brought to justice.
Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Who will of course bring him to justice for war crimes rather than, for example, stick a pole up his butt and slaughter him like a pig.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)"sign or bleed!"
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)msongs
(67,361 posts)1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)There is nothing wrong with looking to the past for situations analogous to today's events, that but sure as hell isn't one of them. If on the other hand he had said that this was just like the US ignoring reports of what was happening to the Gypsies, homosexuals, and jews in Nazi Germany prior to and during the way then he would have been at least a little bit close.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)It's WWI you want to reference, not WWII. Kerry is a completely owned tool of the MIC. The bravery he once had is long gone, burned off by years of service to the 1%.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Merely because Vietnam was wrong does not make every war wrong. One can feel Vietnam was wrong and still consistently think some other war might be right.
David__77
(23,334 posts)He has left the reality-based community completely.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)History is so rich, and especially rich in showing the insanity and evil of war, but you can reduce the neocon repertoire (neocons, humanitarian imperialists, whatever, same shit) to maybe five or six events that ever count. "Appeasement" and "Rwanda" are two of the big ones and especially mythologized.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)If Kerry sounds credible to you, then he'll persuade you. I am embarrassed for him but not
shocked.
Alkene
(752 posts)Seriously though, enough with the Hitler card, Mr. Kerry.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Stupid statement.
last1standing
(11,709 posts)Any secretary of state this incompetent needs to be replaced. We can only lose credibility in the world if he continues these stupidities.
It is also likely to make other nations react the same way I did by questioning the veracity of his other remarks regarding the conflict.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)ladjf
(17,320 posts)malaise
(268,715 posts)tritsofme
(17,371 posts)Not the sort of thoughtful and measured rhetoric you expect from this administration.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
reformist2
(9,841 posts)He'll read whatever's in the script.