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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPepe Escobar: Sarin massacre was "pipeline geopolitics ... false flag" by Bandar Bush & Mossad
Agree with Escobar or not, me thinks this whole Bandar Bush thing is not just some wacko RW concoction.
Audio interview of Escobar at link
http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-733-pepe-escobar-on-bandar-bushs-role-in-syria/
plagiarism on several occasions, etc. However, he does have a well-informed point of view that deserves to be
heard. i.e. I doubt he is "plagiarizing" this.
ON EDIT: I ran across this TYT broadcast, of Col. Wilkerson also saying that it could easily have been an Israeli-driven false flag.
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KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)snip
Yet, it is perhaps irrelevant who gave the order since the entire Syrian leadership is reportedly afraid that the defense lines will collapse. These fears have been fanned by a number of developments over the past few weeks: the unauthorized withdrawal of previously Assad-loyal militias to their Alawite villages; the feared rebel offensive; the declining morale of the regular troops; and the rising losses without military victories to show for them.
The poison gas attack was probably carried out by the 4th division of Assad's army. Experts and defectors agree that this is the only unit that possesses launching devices for chemical weapons. Immediately following the chemical attack, it shelled rebel positions with conventional artillery -- but was unable to take a single location.
Instead, the division lost at least seven tanks in the Damascus neighborhood of Harasta alone. A rebel video provides an insight into the lack of personnel among the elite division: Two crew members flee a burning tank -- but they are wearing no uniforms, no helmets and no radio gear. Shabiha militia members have apparently been forced to fill the gaps in the ranks of the army.
The images are highly significant and don't correspond with reports that Assad has strengthened his military position. Military experts and intelligence agents had been circulating this theory for months, ever since the battle for control of the small town of Qusayr in early summer. Under the leadership of over 1,000 fighters from the Shiite Hezbollah militia from Lebanon, Assad's troops were able to recapture Qusayr.
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Nevertheless, the myth of a military turning point in the regime's favor has persisted since June. This has also hampered the search for motives for the poison gas attack: Many observers wondered why Assad should use chemical weapons if he is winning the war already. In actual fact, the situation has been difficult for the regime's troops for quite some time now. Since the spring of 2012, many of the army's positions have only been supplied from the air because all land routes are under the control the rebels.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I certainly cannot ignore Bernie Sanders weighing in on this, as I
know he's a straight-shooter <-- (maybe the wrong metaphor)
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)the Saudis would be willing to cough up a nice palace somewheres quiet.
The more I read the more I get the awful feeling something very, very terrible will happen whether we intervene or not.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I hear you.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Complete conspiracy garbage doesn't belong on DU. Read about the Corbett report here:
http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2013/06/584-james-corbett.html
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:34 PM, and the Jury voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT.
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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: So post that link and debunk it in the thread. That's how DU works.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: ugly ct from an untrustworthy source.
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Interesting link from the alerter about your source. You might want to consider self-deleting your OP?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)the whole thing is Escobar talking, not Corbett.
Escobar has been featured on HuffPo, Tom Dispatch, Michael Moore, The Nation, et. al.
so I'm not super inclined to just cave on this. I think it's an informed opinion about
WTF really happened; which is rare coinage these daze.
Trekologer
(996 posts)But if someone wants to post cooky stuff, by all means, they should post it. But then post reasons why things are cooky, don't try to hide it.
I've noticed a trend, at least from the juries I've served on, that many of the posts getting reported are due to the alerter not agreeing with the post and trying to use the jury system to censor DU. And by posting the argument that the post is cooky in the alert comments screams that the alerter just wants to censor things they don't agree with. If you think it is cooky, reply to it, put out reasonable arguments.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)the history of the world. Got it.
dkf
(37,305 posts)Will go back for the Escobar.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)"ON EDIT: I ran across this TYT broadcast, of Col. Wilkerson also saying that it could easily have been an Israeli-driven false flag."
Trekologer
(996 posts)instead of trying to kill them.
All of the claims about being a false flag are speculation, no proof.