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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 06:41 PM Sep 2013

What are some good options besides war with Syria?

Here's one from Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.): Try Assad in an international court.
Here's one from me: Stay out of it, we've already proven we have no idea what we're doing in the Middle East.

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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
3. I'm good with stay out of it. We haven't been helpful since Korea despite more war than I can ...
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 06:44 PM
Sep 2013

... keep track of. Only the MIC benefits; everyone else suffers.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
5. Syria is their country. It is their war. We have our own problems.........
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 07:07 PM
Sep 2013

A nation's strength is measured in more ways than military might.
In some of those ways we are not doing all too very good at the moment.
A good option would be.
Charity begins at home.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. Wandy, I agree...
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 07:35 PM
Sep 2013

"A nation's strength is measured in more ways than military might. "

For example, America makes the best bourbon in the world. Maybe the only bourbon, for all I know.
And right now I will make a mint julep with Ezra B and my home grown mint
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mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
7. I really don't know.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 07:50 PM
Sep 2013

but its very strange that a man could go from being a healer to a murderer. He is an eye surgeon. Turned President. He is highly educated. Is he power drunk?? Does he and his regime believe in the mighty fist of absolutism. I don't know?? I do know he knows exactly what is going on. I do know that the same things we are advocating for here are the same things the people want in these other Countries. They want to be educated, have jobs and housing, food, and health care. Not starving in the streets. If the use of Sarin nerve gas is true, I feel for his people. But its hard to ask American soldiers and their families to shed our blood for an America who can't take care of the War Weary families we have now. I probably would take out a few of Assad's top key Military leaders in the dark of night. And then give President Assad a call in the morning and ask him if he has had a change of heart. Sometimes you must give a person options.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
8. Redouble efforts and pressures to bring about a negotiated settlement
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:03 PM
Sep 2013

A political settlement would end not only the use of CW. It would end the carnage on all sides from conventional weapons as well.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
13. Dropping bombs, sending missles are acts of war.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:20 AM
Sep 2013

What part of open-ended killing with the military is hard to understand?

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
14. Is that how desensitized we've become? Is that how commonplace our
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:37 AM
Sep 2013

interference is in other nations' affairs has become, that when we use the power of our Navy and Air Force, it's not war?

As far as I know, what is going on in Syria IS a civil war, and we're looking to get right in the thick of it. No, we may not be declaring war, but lobbing cruise missiles is an involvement in a war. That's far too much for me and most others in this country.

And please do tell me what a few cruise missiles will hope to accomplish? You overestimate the accuracy and precision of our weapons -and our intelligence if you believe that a few missiles will miraculously destroy chemical weapons without killing even more civilians and making an already awful situation worse.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
15. There are no good options
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 12:43 AM
Sep 2013

Civilians will continue to die - with or without our involvement.

Unless we want to have boots on the ground, nothing will change and I think it's clear myself and most people in this country are not interested in seeing that happen. At this point there is less support for this than Clinton had in '98. And I think his success in Kosavo is often overstated (and did escalate to beyond what Clinton initially envisioned).

These things have a tendency to get out of control. Violence tends to do that. And our belief that we can control it - especially in other countries' internal civil wars - is pure and absolute hubris.

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