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We're slow-motion occupying the ENTIRE Middle East, aren't we? (Original Post) reformist2 Sep 2013 OP
Dam good Observation. K&R 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #1
Where do you get that? frazzled Sep 2013 #2
Here's a suggestion: truebluegreen Sep 2013 #6
So we occupy Germany and Italy, too? frazzled Sep 2013 #14
OK, let's go there: why the F do we have bases in Germany and Italy truebluegreen Sep 2013 #20
Exactly. THIS is the reason we pay so much in taxes and see so little in return. reformist2 Sep 2013 #23
Maybe it's all happening in super slow mo BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #7
Shhh, no one's supposed to notice. n/t Catherina Sep 2013 #3
LOL. Sadly, many still can't see the puzzle pieces coming together. reformist2 Sep 2013 #12
That was the plan because that is where the oil is... truebluegreen Sep 2013 #4
Yep. Project for a New American Century. Avalux Sep 2013 #5
Interesting map. Here's another: polly7 Sep 2013 #8
Your map is more informative. But one word comes to mind looking at it: INSANE. reformist2 Sep 2013 #11
That map would make a great OP. n/t Wilms Sep 2013 #15
Be my guest ... polly7 Sep 2013 #19
In a word: Yes. Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #9
Only two countries left on the PNAC list. woo me with science Sep 2013 #10
We are surrounding Iran. Do they have that much oil that we will spend all this money to get them jwirr Sep 2013 #13
Iran is THREATENING the US leftstreet Sep 2013 #17
Thank you. Just what I was thinking. jwirr Sep 2013 #18
LOL, I've never seen that one before! reformist2 Sep 2013 #22
we are failing to occupy slow-mo larkrake Sep 2013 #16
Yup. And on the menu long-term? A balkanized and more-controllable Russia.nt Poll_Blind Sep 2013 #21
No Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #24

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
2. Where do you get that?
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 04:23 PM
Sep 2013

We are "occupying" Afghanistan only at present. And we will be fully out of there next year. Which of these other countries are we occupying? (Hint: your answer should include military presence, and some control over the governing of the country, not countries you merely think are allied with the US.)

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
6. Here's a suggestion:
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 04:29 PM
Sep 2013

check out the location of our (possibly) 1000 military bases around the world before you make statements about occupation.

ETA: and no, we will NOT be "fully out of Afghanistan" next year.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
14. So we occupy Germany and Italy, too?
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 04:36 PM
Sep 2013

Having a military base does not = occupation. Occupation means you have power over the running of the country, not that you're leasing some land from them. I suppose you think having embassies equals occupation, too.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
20. OK, let's go there: why the F do we have bases in Germany and Italy
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 04:58 PM
Sep 2013

darn near 70 years after the end of WWII and more than 20 years after the end of the Cold War? How do our allies feel about our bases? Ask the Japanese, or the South Koreans. Why are we STILL there? Ask the Saudis if our bases there worked out well, for them or for us.

You may not remember the big tsunami in 2004...Indonesia initially refused assistance from the US Navy. Why? because once we are in, we never effing leave.

We throw our weight around on a global scale. How would you react if any of our allies decided to build bases on our soil, leased or otherwise. How would you react if they then exempted their soldiers from our laws. Why do you think we got our butts kicked out of Iraq?

We wanted to stay longer; they said no, in large part because of the immunity issue. We, and our influence, are feared, not beloved...unless some faction thinks they can use us to their own benefit.

Ask yourself: what is the point of all these bases? Whose interests are being furthered? Why are we paying for all this crap?

Safety? Security? Peace? Whose?

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
4. That was the plan because that is where the oil is...
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 04:24 PM
Sep 2013

but it is not working out very well, and isn't going to improve.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
19. Be my guest ...
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 04:57 PM
Sep 2013

I'm burnt out over all this warmongering and the lies, you can probably post a much more interesting OP, I don't have the energy for it anymore. It's been posted here quite a few times, always with at least one defending all those bases surrounding Iran as nothing more harmful or meaningful than visitor's information buildings outside a national park.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. We are surrounding Iran. Do they have that much oil that we will spend all this money to get them
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 04:36 PM
Sep 2013

or are we just setting up Armageddon for the end?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
24. No
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 05:07 PM
Sep 2013

The US has withdrawn from Iraq and is in the process of a drawdown in Afghanistan.

There are no plans to send ground troops into Syria.

Just the facts.

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