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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:33 PM Sep 2013

What we used to be about...

Maybe this is why some people are outraged?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

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On November 25, 1969, President Richard Nixon unilaterally renounced the first use of chemical weapons and renounced all methods of biological warfare.[19] He issued a unilateral decree halting production and transport of chemical weapons which remains in effect. From 1967 to 1970 in Operation CHASE, the U.S. disposed of chemical weapons by sinking ships laden with the weapons in the deep Atlantic. The U.S. began to research safer disposal methods for chemical weapons in the 1970s, destroying several thousand tons of mustard gas by incineration at Rocky Mountain Arsenal and nearly 4,200 tons of nerve agent by chemical neutralization at Tooele Army Depot and Rocky Mountain Arsenal.[20]

The U.S. entered the Geneva Protocol in 1975 at the same time it ratified the Biological Weapons Convention. This was the first operative international treaty on chemical weapons that the United States was party to.

The U.S. began stockpile reductions in the 1980s, removing some outdated munitions and destroying its entire stock of BZ beginning in 1988. In June 1990, Johnston Atoll Chemical Agent Disposal System began destruction of chemical agents stored on Johnston Atoll in the Pacific, seven years before the Chemical Weapons Convention came into effect. In 1986 President Ronald Reagan made an agreement with Chancellor Helmut Kohl to remove the U.S. stockpile of chemicals weapons from Germany. As part of Operation Steel Box, in July 1990, two ships were loaded with over 100,000 shells containing GB and VX taken from US Army weapons storage depots such as Miesau and then-classified ammunition FSTS (Forward Storage/Transportation Sites) and transported from Bremerhaven Germany to Johnston Atoll in the Pacific, a 46-day nonstop journey.[21]

In May 1991, President George H.W. Bush unilaterally committed the United States to destroying all chemical weapons and renounced the right to chemical weapon retaliation. In 1993, the United States signed the Chemical Weapons Convention, which required the destruction of all chemical weapon agents, dispersal systems, chemical weapons production facilities by April 2012. The U.S. prohibition on the transport of chemical weapons has meant that destruction facilities had to be constructed at each of the U.S.'s nine storage facilities. The U.S. met the first three of the treaty's four deadlines, destroying 45% of its stockpile of chemical weapons by 2007. However, official expectations for the date of complete elimination of all chemical weapons was after the treaty deadline of 2012.

Under the United States policy of Proportional Response, an attack upon the United States or its Allies would trigger a force-equivalent counter-attack. Since the United States only maintains nuclear Weapons of Mass Destruction, it is the stated policy that the United States will regard all WMD attacks (Biological, Chemical, or Nuclear) as a nuclear attack and will respond to any WMD attack with a nuclear strike.[22]
Treaties

The United States was a party to some of the earliest modern chemical weapons ban treaties, the Hague Conventions of 1899 and the Washington Arms Conference Treaty of 1922 although these treaties were unsuccessful. The U.S. ratified the Geneva Protocol which banned the use of chemical and biological weapons on January 22, 1975. In 1989 and 1990, the U.S. and the Soviet Union entered an agreement to end their chemical weapons programs, including "binary weapons." The United States ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention which came into force in April 1997. This banned the possession of most types of chemical weapons, some of which were possessed by the U.S. at the time. It also banned chemical weapons development, and requires the destruction of existing stockpiles, precursor chemicals, production facilities and weapon delivery systems.

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What we used to be about... (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2013 OP
It's a good part of it Hydra Sep 2013 #1
Cool. Scootaloo Sep 2013 #2
Just pointing out the history of where we have been. nt babylonsister Sep 2013 #3
That's what baffles me about the war supporters. They are under the impression neverforget Sep 2013 #5
Why do we still have them? kentuck Sep 2013 #4

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
1. It's a good part of it
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:39 PM
Sep 2013

We've turned back the clock in a lot of areas of our progress. It's not an isolated thing- the ABC Weapons + torture + domestic spying + wars of choice + kangaroo courts + etc. all adds up to the things we used to be against.

We don't like to think that we are "those people." The fact that we are becoming "those people" is something we were warned about...but we didn't do enough to stop.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Cool.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:40 PM
Sep 2013

You know we won't be targeting the chemical weapons stockpiles, right? Since it'll be impossible to secure them, to say nothing of the inherent hazards of exploding lots of chemical weapons?

Nobody's happy with the use of chemical weapons. But "sending a message" isn't going to accomplish a damned thing your post brings up.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
5. That's what baffles me about the war supporters. They are under the impression
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 08:55 PM
Sep 2013

that after this strike all the chemical weapons will be gone. They will still be there and so will Assad. Nothing will have changed.

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