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If you exclude Bandar Bush, Assad is my #1 Suspect... (Original Post) Junkdrawer Sep 2013 OP
Those wacky bastards from the House of Saud NightWatcher Sep 2013 #1
Just once, I'd like someone to say: "Look pal, you're on your own." Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #3
"Smirk" - Bandar Bush (R - Saudi Style) Berlum Sep 2013 #2
Seymore Hersh The Redirection March 5, 2007 jakeXT Sep 2013 #4
Yep. Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #5
For those not in the know ... GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #6
For every 10-cent increase in the price of oil, $11 billion is lost from the rest of the economy. Octafish Sep 2013 #7

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. Those wacky bastards from the House of Saud
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:48 PM
Sep 2013

Always stirring shit up and getting us to do their heavy lifting. One reason we love mercenaries here is that we are their mercs.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
3. Just once, I'd like someone to say: "Look pal, you're on your own."
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:50 PM
Sep 2013

"Oh wait, I think I see Putin coming. Good Luck."

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
4. Seymore Hersh The Redirection March 5, 2007
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 12:58 PM
Sep 2013

In the past few months, as the situation in Iraq has deteriorated, the Bush Administration, in both its public diplomacy and its covert operations, has significantly shifted its Middle East strategy. The “redirection,” as some inside the White House have called the new strategy, has brought the United States closer to an open confrontation with Iran and, in parts of the region, propelled it into a widening sectarian conflict between Shiite and Sunni Muslims.

To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.

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The Administration’s effort to diminish Iranian authority in the Middle East has relied heavily on Saudi Arabia and on Prince Bandar, the Saudi national-security adviser. Bandar served as the Ambassador to the United States for twenty-two years, until 2005, and has maintained a friendship with President Bush and Vice-President Cheney. In his new post, he continues to meet privately with them. Senior White House officials have made several visits to Saudi Arabia recently, some of them not disclosed.

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The Bush Administration’s reliance on clandestine operations that have not been reported to Congress and its dealings with intermediaries with questionable agendas have recalled, for some in Washington, an earlier chapter in history. Two decades ago, the Reagan Administration attempted to fund the Nicaraguan contras illegally, with the help of secret arms sales to Iran. Saudi money was involved in what became known as the Iran-Contra scandal, and a few of the players back then—notably Prince Bandar and Elliott Abrams—are involved in today’s dealings.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh?currentPage=all

GeorgeGist

(25,319 posts)
6. For those not in the know ...
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 02:12 PM
Sep 2013

Bob Woodward laid it out in State of Denial:

George W. pulled Bandar aside.
“Bandar, I guess you’re the best asshole who knows about the world. Explain to me one thing.”
“Governor, what is it?”
“Why should I care about North Korea?”
Bandar said he didn’t really know. It was one of the few countries that he did not work on for King Fahd.
“I get these briefings on all parts of the world,” Bush said, “and everybody is talking to me about North Korea.”
“I’ll tell you what, Governor,” Bandar said. “One reason should make you care about North Korea.”
“All right, smart alek,” Bush said, “tell me.”
“The 38,000 American troops right on the border.” …”If nothing else counts, this counts. One shot across the border and you lose half these people immediately. You lose 15,000 Americans in a chemical or biological or even regular attack. The United State of America is at war instantly.”
“Hmmm,” Bush said. “I wish those assholes would put things just point-blank to me. I get half a book telling me about the history of North Korea.”
“Now I tell you another answer to that. You don’t want to care about North Korea anymore?” Bandar asked. The Saudis wanted America to focus on the Middle East and not get drawn into a conflict in East Asia.
“I didn’t say that,” Bush replied.
“But if you don’t, you withdrawl those troops back. Then it becomes a local conflict. Then you have the whole time to decide, ‘Should I get involved? Not involved?’ Etc.”
At that moment, Colin Powell approached.
“Colin,” Bush said, “come here. Bandar and I were shooting the bull, just two fighter pilots shooting the bull.” He didn’t mention the topic.
“Mr. Governor,” Bandar said, “General Powell is almost a fighter pilot. He can shoot the bull almost as good as us.”

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. For every 10-cent increase in the price of oil, $11 billion is lost from the rest of the economy.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 02:54 PM
Sep 2013


So. Get busy. The rOil Family needs the cash.



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