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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 03:32 PM Sep 2013

dude calling on the Ed radio show, suggests dropping Hazmat suits

and gas masks instead of explosives.
Maybe that sounds crazy, but it would be far less crazy than killing more people.

AND, it won't matter if they get in the "wrong hands" (Like the weapons it appears they will be giving the 'rebels')

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dude calling on the Ed radio show, suggests dropping Hazmat suits (Original Post) G_j Sep 2013 OP
Atropine would make more sense rickford66 Sep 2013 #1
That's actually a better idea than the gas mask/haz-mat suit one. HolyMoley Sep 2013 #5
that's thinking outside the box. I like it! KittyWampus Sep 2013 #2
Thinking outside of the box G_j Sep 2013 #7
Great idea! And hospital supplies and food. n/t Peregrine Took Sep 2013 #3
Unless the populace were properly trained and drilled in the use HolyMoley Sep 2013 #4
atropine rickford66 Sep 2013 #6
Already mentioned (posts #1 & #5). HolyMoley Sep 2013 #8
just trying to relate how easy it is to use rickford66 Sep 2013 #9
Atropine is only partially effective Lee-Lee Sep 2013 #10
well rickford66 Sep 2013 #11
I think I like this caller's idea. Brigid Sep 2013 #12
i like the idea also Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #13

rickford66

(5,522 posts)
1. Atropine would make more sense
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 03:42 PM
Sep 2013

The syringes we had in the service were easy to use and I'm sure we have vast supplies of the stuff collecting dust in a warehouse somewhere.

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
5. That's actually a better idea than the gas mask/haz-mat suit one.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 04:04 PM
Sep 2013

At least it's more practical from a distribution perspective and using it properly is pretty straight forward.

Simple, easy to use test kits for the presence of chemical agents could also be given out.

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
4. Unless the populace were properly trained and drilled in the use
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 03:56 PM
Sep 2013

of the equipment, and have knowledge about chemical attacks, it would be a wasted effort.

rickford66

(5,522 posts)
6. atropine
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 04:32 PM
Sep 2013

Atropine delivery is easy as pie. It's a little tube with the needle at one end. Uncover the needle, stick it into your thigh (through your clothes if you have to) and squeeze. Those little tubes of super glue remind me of how they looked. The hazmat suit scenario would be a nightmare. During a nerve gas attack, you could be dead before you get the thing on. With the atropine as little as one person in a group would die. We were instructed to stick ourselves if anyone showed symptoms or died. You would also remain useful, not encumbered by the suit.

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
8. Already mentioned (posts #1 & #5).
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 05:54 PM
Sep 2013

I'm uncertain of what the current generation of delivery devices are like.

In my time in the military, it was a spring loaded syringe that came in a pack of 3 IIRC.
There were also spring loaded 'dummy' training kits.

It also occurred to me just after my previous post, that gas masks are ineffective if the person is sporting a beard (it doesn't seal properly). I'm not up on the particular customs in Syria, but I'd wager a significant
portion of the men are unshaven.

rickford66

(5,522 posts)
9. just trying to relate how easy it is to use
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:19 PM
Sep 2013

I was in boot camp in 1969 so things probably have changed. The little squeeze tube I remember seemed like a cheap slick solution. Not much of a learning curve. I remember the gas mask training also. It's not as easy as it looks to get it on right. A beard would definitely allow for leaks. I'm sure the rebels would rather travel light and not carry certain equipment which draws attention if they are infiltrating areas. Anyway, I think that hitting the Syrian government in the pocketbook would be more effective than what is planned.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
10. Atropine is only partially effective
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:51 PM
Sep 2013

Really less so than we were led to believe in basic, and only if you get a mask on to stop exposure first and have qualified medical treatment close at hand.

And without the training people would be using it wrong or when there is not really a chemical attack- probably causing more harm than good.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
12. I think I like this caller's idea.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 09:44 PM
Sep 2013

I don't know how effective the suits or the atropine might be in the hands of untrained people, but it's better than war.

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