You wanna remember why you hate the other side so much??? Click Below!!!

[busterbrown]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/04/tulsa-school-sends-girl-home-because-dreadlocks-and-afros-are-too-distracting/

[bunnies]

1. Assholes.

That poor little girl. Who would do that to a child? She's adorable.

[busterbrown]

2. Right..with that flower in her hair? Might not be on the same day.. but you know she was adorable

that day as well. Conflating a Mohawk with dreadlocks...WTF...One is specifically designed to show a kind of rebellious hate and toughness and the other is an exceptable cultural style. Give me a break..

[bunnies]

5. And whats so fucking distracting about dreadlocks?

I expected big, nappy, white-guy-hippie type dreads not perfectly formed tiny locks. That shit takes work! And now they've given this little girl a complex. Geezus. She'll have enough of being judged for her looks in a few years. Cant you let her enjoy being a little girl?! Let her embrace her culture?

[scooter rider]

6. Meet Deborah Brown, founder of the Deborah Brown Community School

http://www.dbcschool.org/index.php?page=ourstaff

[bunnies]

8. ok, and?

Its still a shitty thing to do to a little girl. She, of all people, should know that.

[scooter rider]

9. Uh Huh

And she reminds you why you hate the other side so much???

Which side would that be BTW?

[bunnies]

11. I dont know about the "hating the other side" stuff.

Im not even sure what the OP meant by that. I just feel bad for the little girl. Thats all.

[busterbrown]

21. I think that racism flourishes when the state provides funds for for profit charter schools..

Makes the area more economically depressed for those who are not fortunate enough to get into one of the schools... Keeps the hopes of community down when all the money for after school programs and advanced teaching techniques is poured into the Charter Schools... Leads to just more and more problems, which in the end leads to more crime.

[bunnies]

31. Ive actually never thought of it that way.

Im inclined to agree with you, though. Thank you for pointing that out to me. Seriously.

[busterbrown]

22. Yea should I post a picture of Herman Cain...Or Allan West...???.

You mean when your black you don’t support horrible concepts which destroy economically depressed areas..

[Niceguy1]

3. I don't think this is a right wing school

It appears that the admin are African Americans snd the majority of the student body is, too

If the restriction was clearly spelled out in the dress code then its the fault of the parents.

[kiva]

4. What exactly do you mean by 'other side'?

Do you assume that the people involved in setting the school code are all Republicans? If so, please show me your source.

Are you saying that the school is randomly picking on this girl? If so, you might want to watch the video at your link that shows that the school's dress code specifically forbids dreads, along with some other hair styles. Her parents either didn't read the code or decided to challenge it - so bluntly, her parents are at fault for her tears.

Do you think that it's an issue of race? Here's the school's board and faculty: http://www.dbcschool.org/index.php?page=ourstaff.

So what exactly do you mean by the other side?

[busterbrown]

7. Perfect Reply...

Jump on the reverse racism wagon as fast as possible...

Probably a lot more where this came from.. Keep intouch!!!

http://charterschoolscandals.blogspot.com/2011/05/deborah-brown-community-school.html

[kiva]

10. Asking again, who are the 'other side'?

So far you've accused me of jumping on the reverse racism wagon and given me a link to a site that says the school is being sued by because they were not able to get enough students for a pre-K program so did not hire said person.

If you can't tell me who 'the other side' is, maybe you should consider sharpening your writing and/or critical thinking skills.

[Logical]

12. LOL, I always love the "skills" insults. Says more about you than them. n-t

[kiva]

13. Ummm, why do you say that?

Either they couldn't read well enough to understand what I was asking or they had no answer so chose to go with an insult and a link to information that had nothing to do with their original post. And yes, I truly hope that my post said more about me than their random choice of words says about them.

[busterbrown]

15. Anytime I see the term “Educational Entrepreneur” in the same sentence with Charter Schools....

Well, I think you get the idea...

Get the best students out of an economically depressed area, get some tax free funding...Suck the money out of the school systems in the depressed area... and you have got for profit republicans trying to privatize our educational system..

Is the other side clear to you now.. Yes, Plenty of Blacks are involved in the process and as far I think
most of them are tied into Republican Politics...

http://www.education.com/schoolfinder/us/oklahoma/tulsa/deborah-brown-community-school/

[kiva]

17. OK, charter schools.

I agree - I don't like the fact that they are sucking money from our school system and are often run by frauds. There was a discussion here a few days ago - in GD I think - about parents who sent their children to private schools, and I suspect the same arguments could apply to charter schools.

The problem I have with the way this article presented the child and parents as victims of the school - the parents chose this school. They applied to send their daughter to this school. As I said before, they either didn't bother to read the dress code or chose to flout it, but either way it was their choice, but their daughter was the one who was hurt.

The fact is that public schools provide the strongest protection of civil rights to students and to teachers. If you choose to send your child to a charter school or public school, or if you choose to work at either, then you have accepted their rules.

[busterbrown]

19. They didn’t choose the school.. The School chose her.

She is model child probably with great grades and her father gets the chance to put her in a protective environment... Who would blame him?

The parents are victim’s of republican educational economics..They make out well and turn their backs on the community... I don’t blame them.I blame Republicans and then Democrats who are cowards..

[kiva]

23. That's where we disagree, I think.

When someone chooses to become involved with an organization - a school, a church, a club, whatever - you also are choosing to accept their rules. If you don't like the rules, don't get involved - many of these institutions would wither away and die if people who disagreed with them would simply walk away. In this case the parents have done so, and if more follow the school will close.

[busterbrown]

26. Couldn’t disagree more..

This is a guy who sees a way out for his daughter.. A protective environment which probably will end up pushing forward to great success..This is not the same as a club or a church.. The positive consequences for his daughter is all that counts... And he is right!!! Except the school crossed his red line.. and he just wasn’t gonna take it anymore...

By the way.. The more I look at that girl it hardly looked like dreadlocks more like braids...

[cherokeeprogressive]

24. Wow. "reverse racism"? Where the hell does THAT come from? Defensive much?

Private school = private rules.

Maybe the girl's parents should be scolded for putting her in an untenable situation, when they knew better. Them's the rules.

Reverse racism? WTF?

[busterbrown]

32. Rules?

Fine if this was a private school.. But believe me a great deal of the funds for this “for profit” educational scam comes from taxpayer’s money..
How would you expect a father to see anything else but a protective environment for his daughter.
How could he possibly understand that he was part of a scam which stole money from his community to fund this piece of shit charter school..
If the state wants to put money into these Bill Gate’s type educational facilities they should be forced to put that amount right back into the local school district it was taken from...

[cherokeeprogressive]

33. Please explain the reverse racism accusation. You were on it instantly.

I'd like to know how you justify an accusation like that.

[busterbrown]

34. I think For Profit Charter Schools add fuel to the racism fire...

Suck money out of a poor school district and give it to these “educational entrepreneurs” who want to privatize our educational system helps stoke more racism..
Minority and poor communities by this action loose funding for pre school and after school programs which have proved to be so effective in helping kids stay out of trouble after school and getting kids
started early on the right track in their lives.. These programs and many others like technological teaching aids have all but disappeared from poor minority school districts.

This has helped lead to lead to new desperation for thousands of kids and families who have been
devastated by these cuts.. These cuts eventually cause more and more kids back into the streets
which means more troubled youth. This eventually leads to more crime in many instances which stokes the fear of “black crime”..

“Black Crime” in my opinion is a driving force which in many instances stokes the fear of black kids which in my opinion is nothing but out and out racism.

[cherokeeprogressive]

35. That doesn't explain your reverse racism comment to the poster.

That sounded like an unfounded accusation to me.

[busterbrown]

37. The poster instead of blaming the For Profit Charter School and their attempts to destroy our

educational system goes on to blame the parents.. How many times have we heard that black crime is caused by poor parenting skills..Parents never home, always running around.. Its the same ‘personally
responsible rant” I hear over and over when gangs and crimes come up in a 11 o’clock news feed.

This is reverse racism..Put the fault right back onto the family. Its the easier course to take...

[whoiswithme]

14. Because it's Oklahoma??

I dunno. The girls hair looked cute.

That said, she was attending a private school that is entitled to any dress code it likes and it appears that the code was enforced properly. Dad should have known better than to let her go like that. My little girls have been in tears multiple times because they want to wear their pretty dresses but sleeves are required at school. While I think it's silly not to let a kindergartener wear a summer dress, I understand that the cheerleading captain in a spaghetti strap is probably pretty distracting and that rules need to be enforced evenly.

[busterbrown]

16. Believe me its a private school grabbing funds from the state!!!

It’s a for profit school founded by many including" educational entrepreneurs”....Their teacher to school ratio when compared to State Class size sucks!!! 16:1 as opposed to 22:1...

Get all the bright good kids and watch the great test results come in...
Pump that money back where it belongs...

http://www.education.com/schoolfinder/us/oklahoma/tulsa/deborah-brown-community-school/

[whoiswithme]

18. Don't change the subject!!

This is about whether dress codes at private schools should be allowed.

[busterbrown]

20. Well as long as you agree that profiteers are sabotaging our whole educational system and screwing

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the majority of children in economic depressed areas, then I will agree that her father sent her to that school which is funded with state money..

However I do see that you keep referring to “dress codes”.. Hair styles are a little more in the grey area wouldn’t you agree???

You don’t have a problem with conflating Mohawks with Dreadlocks?

Looks like I’m changing the subject again and will do so forever in order to drive those freaking money
lovers out of our school systems..

Trying to blame the parents is such bullshit!! The father was trying to put his daughter in a more protective environment and he was right to do so.. Blaming him is another example of the old Libertarian Philosophy that people need to take responsibility no matter what.. Well there are plenty of “whats” which need to be addressed when it comes to privatizing our educational system..

[whoiswithme]

25. I don't care to second guess

You don’t have a problem with conflating Mohawks with Dreadlocks?

Some schools have banned certain colors due to gang activity. I am not going to second guess their decision here.

[busterbrown]

27. Funny you only responded to my last statement.

I always love the “gang activity” comments.. Isn’t this whats it all about.?.

[whoiswithme]

28. Start a new thread if you want to change the topic

[busterbrown]

29. I prefer to converse with one who defends state funded for profit charter schools..

Trying to prevent me from talking about destruction of our educational system by keeping the focus on the responsibilities of parents.. You sound so familiar to the Libertarians who hang around here!!

[gopiscrap]

30. No KIdding!

[LWolf]

36. I don't hate. nt

[KittyWampus]

38. Wish I could give that little girl a hug. She's adorable.