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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:45 PM Sep 2013

Where is the Arab League?

We don't need to be in the middle of that quagmire. It is an invitation to chaos, bloodshed and tax payer dollars out of the window. I'm more concerned about bloodshed and chaos, but at some point, while we harp on how awful pensions and Social Security are, we need to discuss military expenditures. Novel idea, I know.

If the Arab League supports intervention, why aren't they sending their own troops in, and spending their own blood and treasure on this half-cocked adventure? Surely if Israel is gung-ho they should be on the front lines and have their own people there.

Where are the people that want to fight this war ... fighting it? If Israel is cowering in fear about Syrian chemical weapon attacks, why aren't they doing something about it? Why must the American people pay for another war in the name of other countries with blood and tax dollars? Enough is enough. You want to fight, you send your own children to do it.

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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. It makes me ill
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:53 PM
Sep 2013

All of these folks that are ginning this up just for an oil pipeline, pretending to give a shit about human life when it is really about MONEY need to send their own kin to the front lines. They need to drain their own treasuries while we don't even have universal health care. That is what really chaps my ass. People die here every day because we don't have adequate health care, yet we can afford to send our children to die or be maimed and expend our treasury to fight wars.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. I'm magnanimous enough to assume Obama isn't in it for the pipeline.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:02 AM
Sep 2013

He could have one here and win the adoration of domestic oil producers and get the DNC larded up with some of that sweet, sweet campaign money, if he so chose. Obviously he hasn't.

I think he sank his foot in his mouth up to his knee and thinks the only way to remove it is to spit hard enough in the face of recent history.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
10. I don't care what lead up to the bad idea of intervening
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:10 AM
Sep 2013

I just care that we don't get involved in that shit hole. I could give two shits who wears a shoe-polish grin as long as it isn't our tax dollars pissed away and American lives bleeding for a war that doesn't concern us.

And yes, I am that damn cynical anymore that it is about the pipeline. We haven't concerned ourselves with a war in the last 13 years that wasn't about oil.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
2. That's an easy question. Acting like cheerleaders to do their dirty work.
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:51 PM
Sep 2013

It's worked flawlessly in the past.

There is no moral justification unless we go into all the nations with internal strife and warfare...those without political or economic perceived benefits. Solely economic and power politics.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
4. Not a shred of moral justification
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:57 PM
Sep 2013

and frankly, not a damned thing to be gained, either, even if we "win". It's just a loss for the US, but the people that aren't fighting but championing a fight, well, they benefit handsomely and didn't send their people off to do it.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. We are patsies for the Arabs ... Westerners killing the hated Shia works better.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:37 AM
Sep 2013

Also will ascend Al Queada and the Muslim Brotherhood. How the apologists can parse that...beats me. Children will certainly die...it's the ME way since there are no battlefields...just towns of people of one party or the other. Dismal.

Wonder which Al Queada dictator we will artificially elevate to prominence? Will not stop the killing or children, the gas war, We'll just have to get him in a few months and find someone else....ad nauseum.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
5. Arab League urges UN-backed action in Syria
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 11:58 PM
Sep 2013
http://m.aljazeera.com/story/20139118235327617

Arab League urges UN-backed action in Syria
Last updated: 2 September 2013

Foreign ministers seek "necessary deterrent measures" against Syrian regime in line with international law.

Arab League foreign ministers have urged the international community and the United Nations to take "deterrent" action against the Syrian regime over its alleged use of chemical weapons.

"The United Nations and the international community are called upon to assume their responsibilities in line with the UN Charter and international law by taking the necessary deterrent measures", the ministers said in a statement on Sunday following a meeting in Cairo.

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The foreign ministers also said those responsible for the attack should face trial, as other "war criminals" have done.

Earlier, Saudi Arabia and the Syrian opposition pleaded with League members to back a US military strike on the regime.

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However, some influential members of the League, including Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Tunisia and Algeria, have expressed opposition to foreign military intervention.

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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. In other words
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:00 AM
Sep 2013

"We will support you if you do it, but we won't send a single person there to die."

G_j

(40,366 posts)
7. they don't all agree
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 12:02 AM
Sep 2013

However, some influential members of the League, including Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Tunisia and Algeria, have expressed opposition to foreign military intervention.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
12. Looks like they want the UN to be involved, imo.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:44 AM
Sep 2013

Which of course isn't happening but if they attack one of their own states they open themselves up to recrimination. If the UN is involved they can at least act as if the international community was behind it.

BTW, Israel did strike in Syria a few months back. It went under the radar for some reason.

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