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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:16 PM Sep 2013

Former NSA Officer: WikiLeaks Serves As An Extension Of Russian Intelligence

From nearly the outset I’ve stated that Snowden is very likely an agent of Russian intelligence; this was met with howls of indignation which have died down in recent weeks as it’s become apparent that Ed’s staying in Russia for some time, along with whatever classified materials he had on his person. (Since Glenn Greenwald’s partner when stopped by British authorities at Heathrow had 58,000 highly classified documents on him, thanks to Ed, one can only wonder how big the initial haul actually was.)

That Snowden was in contact with the Russian consulate in Hong Kong during his pre-Moscow visit there, including spending his 30th birthday with his new friends, is now admitted. Even President Vladimir Putin has conceded that Ed’s contacts with Russian officials did not commence when he landed at Sheremtyevo airport, rather before.

But when? That of course is the key question that NSA counterintelligence surely wants – needs – to know. All roads here lead to Wikileaks. We know that Snowden in late 2012 reached out to Glenn Greenwald and other members of the spy-ring – all of whom can be considered cut-outs for Wikileaks when not paid-up members – that stands behind the massive leaks.

After making this contact, Ed took a contractor job with Booz Allen Hamilton to increase his access to NSA secrets. I’ve been stating for a while now that Wikileaks is functionally an extension of Russian intelligence; it’s become a minor meme as a few journalists have decided that such a scandalous viewpoint is worth considering.

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Canadian naval officer Jeffrey Delisle for nearly five years before his detection was regularly passing huge amounts of classified information to Russian military intelligence (GRU). Every month or so, Delisle would leave his desk in the intelligence fusion center in Halifax with a memory stick filled with top secret information to sell to the Russians.

Moreover, Delisle is a trained intelligence officer – unlike Snowden, who is no more than an IT guy with little if any operational intelligence experience – and it’s apparent that much of what he gave away to GRU was SIGINT from NSA and its Five Eyes partners (British GCHQ, Canadian CSEC, Australian DSD, New Zealand GCSB).

The Russians seemed to have really cleaned up with this one, and despite efforts from ministers in Ottawa to downplay what Delisle did, Canadian senior intelligence officials have made clear that the case is without precedent in its damage and implications, far beyond Canada.


Read more: http://20committee.com/2013/09/04/snowden-nsa-and-counterintelligence/

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Former NSA Officer: WikiLeaks Serves As An Extension Of Russian Intelligence (Original Post) FarCenter Sep 2013 OP
Yeah, and they have a personalized parking space at the Comintern. n/t malthaussen Sep 2013 #1
Speculative fiction. TM99 Sep 2013 #2
No kidding! Poorly written at that. hootinholler Sep 2013 #13
John Schindler knows his shit...his twitter feed is one to follow. msanthrope Sep 2013 #3
I may respect his credentials. TM99 Sep 2013 #6
Here's a hint about his agenda: Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 #8
Assange has a show on the Kremin's network, threatened to publish embarrassing Russian documents KittyWampus Sep 2013 #11
Of course he has an agenda. That's why you use grains of salt on the tasty nuggets. nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #12
LOL LOL LOL JimDandy Sep 2013 #4
I know right! Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #16
well, if a light shines in the dark, everyone's sight is improved.... mike_c Sep 2013 #5
I've been saying that for months. Assange, Greenwald, Snowden. DevonRex Sep 2013 #7
I suppose it looks better if it was the Russians instead of some hired nerd that stole us blind. bemildred Sep 2013 #9
Curious how it started w/power point slides to finding out Snowden impersonated higher ranking KittyWampus Sep 2013 #10
What a bunch of babbling bullshit. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #14
From snowden himself.. he doesn't care who knows it.. he's putin's patsy Cha Sep 2013 #15
Snowden is no hero. Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #18
Yeah not buying Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #17
I'll reserve judgment until I hear more. Aerows Sep 2013 #19

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
13. No kidding! Poorly written at that.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:40 PM
Sep 2013

There are statements in the excerpt that are obviously made up. Things he can't possibly know like the 58000 high classified documents.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
3. John Schindler knows his shit...his twitter feed is one to follow.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:27 PM
Sep 2013
https://twitter.com/20committee

Professor, Naval War College; Chair, PfP CT Working Group; Senior Fellow, Boston University; former NSA & NAVSECGRU

Even if you don't agree with him...he's one connected dude.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
6. I may respect his credentials.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:45 PM
Sep 2013
Even if you don't agree with him...he's one connected dude.


But this is why I don't agree with what he's pushing.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
8. Here's a hint about his agenda:
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:48 PM
Sep 2013

Former NSA & NAVSECGRU

They will say anything to discredit Wikileaks.
He may be connected, but some of his connections are to our lying security peeps.
What he says has no credibility. Giving any of those mooks any benefit of the doubt flew out the window a looooong time ago.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
11. Assange has a show on the Kremin's network, threatened to publish embarrassing Russian documents
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:13 PM
Sep 2013

but then never did.

We find out Snowden, who was managed/groomed by Wikileaks, was being supported by Russia long before he arrived in Russia. And he took a trip to Hong Kong before he absconded there.

Plus, come to find out, he didn't just steal low level powerpoint slides. He impersonated higher ranking members to steal documents.

Then we find out Wikileaks was throwing their votes to the Far Right.

Maybe it's time to re-evaluate Wikileaks and Assange.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
16. I know right!
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 08:50 PM
Sep 2013

and this same article written different ways has been posted it seems like a kabillion times! It is as if there is a feeling that if it is posted a hundred times someone might take it seriously.

mike_c

(36,279 posts)
5. well, if a light shines in the dark, everyone's sight is improved....
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:39 PM
Sep 2013

That certainly doesn't make darkness better.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
7. I've been saying that for months. Assange, Greenwald, Snowden.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:47 PM
Sep 2013

And they have Poitras, too.

But NOT Chelsea Manning. They used her and thew her away. Assholes.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. I suppose it looks better if it was the Russians instead of some hired nerd that stole us blind.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sep 2013

I guess this Russian role must have all been discovered since Snowden went public, unless we knew about him before that.

So we must be rolling up all those Russian networks we have now uncovered handled Snowden and stuff tight now.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
10. Curious how it started w/power point slides to finding out Snowden impersonated higher ranking
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:05 PM
Sep 2013

members to steal information.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
15. From snowden himself.. he doesn't care who knows it.. he's putin's patsy
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 07:18 PM
Sep 2013
"These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations."

http://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Edward-Snowden-to.html

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
18. Snowden is no hero.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 08:53 PM
Sep 2013

We know who he is by his actions. Snowden was a neo-con warmonger during Bush's tenure.

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