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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:36 PM Sep 2013

Syrian Christians say Western attack could make things worse

"Although President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister David Cameron are consulting their own legislatures before using force in Syria, there's a constituency with far more at stake they might also poll that would likely deliver a resounding no: Syria's Christians.

Those Christians may be no fans of the regime of President Bashar Assad, but they generally prefer it to what they see as the likely alternative -- rising Islamic fundamentalism and Iraq-style chaos, in which religious minorities such as themselves would be among the primary victims.

"We heard a lot about democracy and freedom from the U.S. in Iraq, and we see now the results -- how the country came to be destroyed," said Chaldean Catholic Bishop Antoine Audo of Aleppo in a recent interview. "The first to lose were the Christians of Iraq."

http://ncronline.org/news/global/syrian-christians-say-western-attack-could-make-things-worse



It seems that the Christians in Syria (and everyone else) have good reason to fear an US led "intervention". The track record of recent "interventions" is not good.



Christians in Libya being rounded up and beaten
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/9927447/Christians-in-Libya-being-rounded-up-and-beaten.html

Mass Arrest and Torture of Christians in Libya
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/mass-arrest-and-torture-of-christians-in-libya/

Libyans Say Sharia Will Be Law of the Land
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/11/libyans-say-sharia-will-be-law-of-the-land.html


[font size=5]Iraq[/font]

Since we intervened in Iraq, over 1/2 the Christian population has fled the country to avoid violent persecution. The rest live in continual fear.

Iraq: Worse for Christians Now Than under Saddam Hussein
http://www.religiontoday.com/news/iraq-worse-for-christians-now-than-under-saddam-hussein-11578523.html



Persecuted Iraqi minority reflects on life after Saddam
LONDON -- Rana stepped out of church in Baghdad in December 2006 to find an envelope wedged against her car windshield. Inside was a bullet -- a message that meant she and her family were next on an assassin’s list.

They fled the city the next day, leaving behind a business, a home -- everything.

"I didn't like Saddam Hussein, but he didn't bother the Christians," said Rana, 29, after a church service in London. "He was a dictator. When he went, the gangs came from everywhere."

Rana isn’t alone: Bombings, kidnappings and generalized violence unleashed by the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq that toppled Hussein caused hundreds of thousands of Christians to flee their homeland.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/19/17357746-people-turned-on-christians-persecuted-iraqi-minority-reflects-on-life-after-saddam?lite


Over 300,000 Iraqi Christians fled to Syria, where they are facing another violent US "intervention".


INSANITY = Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different results.

It is insane to be considering ANOTHER military intervention in this part of the World.





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Syrian Christians say Western attack could make things worse (Original Post) bvar22 Sep 2013 OP
I am not suprised the Christians of Syria are not for American military action. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #1
What do they know? The Link Sep 2013 #2
The next were the Copts in Egypt. KamaAina Sep 2013 #3
Damned if we do, damned if we don't. bluestate10 Sep 2013 #4
No. We are not "damned" if we don't. bvar22 Sep 2013 #7
Putin lovers Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #5
I wish I could REC this multiple times eissa Sep 2013 #6
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. The next were the Copts in Egypt.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:46 PM
Sep 2013

No direct U.S. military intervention there, but we did recognize Morsi's Islamist government after a narrow win in a flawed election.

Then again, we recognized Bush*'s fascist government after a narrow win in a flawed election.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
4. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:54 PM
Sep 2013

If the international community is ready to take forceful action against use of chemical weapons, the USA should not. This country can't keep carrying water for countries that claim to have high human principles, but shrink from taking forceful action to defend those principles.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
7. No. We are not "damned" if we don't.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:04 PM
Sep 2013

We are only damned if we Drop BOMBS and Kill Innocents.

There are many, MANY things we CAN do without resorting to Humanitarian Freedom Bombs.

“Violence sometimes may have cleared away obstructions quickly, but it never has proved itself creative”--- Albert Einstein

eissa

(4,238 posts)
6. I wish I could REC this multiple times
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:00 PM
Sep 2013

Let's be clear here: the Christians of the ME are nothing like your evangelical bible-thumpers here. Far from it. They are advocates of secular societies, and tend to be better educated. There is NO QUESTION that they will be the first victims should the rebels take over, with women of all sects following close behind.

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