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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:45 PM Sep 2013

The student loan bubble is starting to burst

By: John Carney |

The largest bank in the United States will stop making student loans in a few weeks.

JPMorgan Chase has sent a memorandum to colleges notifying them that the bank will stop making new student loans in October, according to Reuters.

The official reason is quite bland.

"We just don't see this as a market that we can significantly grow," Thasunda Duckett tells Reuters. Duckett is the chief executive for auto and student loans at Chase, which means she's basically delivering the news that a large part of her business is getting closed down.


The move is eerily reminiscent of the subprime shutdown that happened in 2007. Each time a bank shuttered its subprime unit, the news was presented in much the same way that JPMorgan is spinning the end of its student lending.

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The student loan bubble is starting to burst (Original Post) n2doc Sep 2013 OP
Holy f'n wow. This is massive. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #1
Guess they have enslaved enough people to last a lifetime. Criminals. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #2
I hate being enslaved... Bonx Sep 2013 #6
If that's as complex and nuanced as you are capable of seeing this matter RadiationTherapy Sep 2013 #9
+1 brazillion Myrina Sep 2013 #10
Evidently you *love* being enslaved, if that dismissive snark... villager Sep 2013 #14
Fail. n/t dogknob Sep 2013 #15
You have no clue what I meant, apparently. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #17
Maybe they know something they aren't letting on to...? closeupready Sep 2013 #3
Those fields have been plowed under BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #4
Private student loans zipplewrath Sep 2013 #5
Private student loans should be stopped JPZenger Sep 2013 #7
"Pick a cheaper college"? Myrina Sep 2013 #11
That's getting harder to do. Limit for freshman for federal loans is $5500/year. MissB Sep 2013 #19
Interesting timing felix_numinous Sep 2013 #8
I think we will soon see a movement similar to the Refuseniks (colloquial def.) Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #12
You mean those "Professional Left" types (formerly liberal moderates) who always villager Sep 2013 #16
That would be them, some of them, anyway. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #20
but TIME's priority is to focus on the need to use school resources to pay athletes Supersedeas Sep 2013 #13
College should be fucking free. JEB Sep 2013 #18
^ This ^ Arugula Latte Sep 2013 #21

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
9. If that's as complex and nuanced as you are capable of seeing this matter
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 05:30 PM
Sep 2013

then that's as complex and nuanced as you are capable of seeing this matter. Others have written eloquently and at length about this very real scam and problem.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
14. Evidently you *love* being enslaved, if that dismissive snark...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:12 PM
Sep 2013

...is the extent of your "analysis" about college costs, family incomes, financial aid cuts, exorbitant bank interest rates, etc...

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
3. Maybe they know something they aren't letting on to...?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:49 PM
Sep 2013

That perhaps some kind of legislative change will drastically diminish the profitability of these loans?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Private student loans
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 05:00 PM
Sep 2013

This is about private student loans. The federal government loans continue. That's probably part of why they "can't grow the business" because the feds are under cutting them badly on rates.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
7. Private student loans should be stopped
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 05:13 PM
Sep 2013

Many of these private student loans are predatory, and have extremely high interest rates.

If you can't fund your college education using only federal loans, work study, summer jobs, savings, etc., you should pick a cheaper college instead of taking out predatory private loans.

The only reason why companies were offering these loans is because under federal law, they cannot be discharged under bankruptcy. If the feds removed that protection (as the Dems sought a few years ago), most of the private loans would disappear, because they are built on a bubble.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
11. "Pick a cheaper college"?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 05:36 PM
Sep 2013

Yeah that's wrong too.
Why should any student suffer because they or their parent is poor?

How about making higher ed more affordable by getting rid of the zillion dollar sports stadiums, by taking the profit out of ripping off students for books and fees, and clean up the ethical issues of schools investing in Sallie Mae et al so they can make money off a student twice - once from tuition and again later off the interest on the loans/stock investments?

MissB

(15,803 posts)
19. That's getting harder to do. Limit for freshman for federal loans is $5500/year.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 07:58 PM
Sep 2013

Our state university's cost of attendance is around $22k/year. That includes In-state tuition and room/board.

Work study is usually awarded as a need-based award, so plenty of middle class kids can't get that funding.

Summer jobs and savings may not cover the first year's cost, let alone year two through four. The federal loan limits increase a bit each year - like by $1000. Still not enough to close the gap.

When I graduated from college not quite 20 years ago, pay as you go was really quite reasonable. But paying $3k+/term for tuition is not easy for many folks.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
8. Interesting timing
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 05:28 PM
Sep 2013

no jobs either, unless you want to go in the military, police or intelligence.

I'm hoping to see more people explore alternative fields and resist recruitment into military.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
12. I think we will soon see a movement similar to the Refuseniks (colloquial def.)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 05:46 PM
Sep 2013

wherein significant numbers of people just say "no". The whole student loan scam was another in the long line of terrible republican ideas, implemented by Democrats, and resulting in exactly the failures predicted at the time by those annoying people that have "no credibility", except for a long track record of being right.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
16. You mean those "Professional Left" types (formerly liberal moderates) who always
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 06:14 PM
Sep 2013

...try to warn other Dems from pitifully caving into noxious Republican ideas?

Supersedeas

(20,630 posts)
13. but TIME's priority is to focus on the need to use school resources to pay athletes
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 05:47 PM
Sep 2013

at least the proceeds from those loans are being well invested

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
18. College should be fucking free.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 07:44 PM
Sep 2013

The money we piss away on killing brown people and enraging half the world could send every person in this country who is interested to school. Seems to me we could use a better educated population.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
21. ^ This ^
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 05:02 PM
Sep 2013

We have the most effed-up priorities. We could have been a great nation that prized free or simply affordable education and a good healthcare system, but no. We've squandered everything on our military-corporate overlords.

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