I sense that we've reached a tipping point

[MannyGoldstein]

For 30 years Republicans have grown crazier and crazier. For 22 years, the Democratic mainstream has been little but triangulators and Wall Street's paid staff, the tip of the spear that's shafting the 99%.

Now there's some heartening change afoot: Democrats are starting to realize that our old guard was not put on Earth to help us.

The skepticism and scorn heaped upon the cabal that's trying to triangulate us into bombing Syria is gratifying - The People are no longer asleep, and we're mooning them back.

In New York City, Bloomberg's authoritarian stand-in is getting ditched for an unabashed Liberal.

Larry "Toonces" Summers' unprecedented run as the Predator Class's unelected watchdog in the White House may have finally come to an end.

And Elizabeth Warren.

This is not to say things will get easier for the 99% now. Things will get harder now. When Predators find they can't get what they want the easy way, they start grabbing what they want the hard way. So it will suck for a while.

But if the 99% pulls together, fights, and sticks it out, we'll win. We have the power - we just need to recognize it, and to use it wisely.

[gopiscrap]

1. I agree good post!

[Squinch]

2. "Larry 'Toonces' Summers":

[Aerows]

4. You can't say more

about that fat driving cat than Toonces.

[Squinch]

6. "Toonces! Look out!" Sure Summers can manage. Just not very well.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

34. How can you say that with Victoria Jackson going off a cliff in a car?

[Squinch]

60. I think she's already gone off some kind of cliff. That's a nutjob, that one.

[sendero]

3. plus...

.... 1000


Well said!

[Autumn]

5. I think you're right. We are in for a very interesting ride.

I don't know whats going to happen with our Democratic Party, but there's a breeze blowing right now.

[99Forever]

7. That storm on the horizon that I have spoken of...

... for the last couple years, is closing in. It will indeed get worse, for a while, but history is on our side.

Solidarity. We will not be denied.

[russspeakeasy]

8. Nice post, manny..

[Harmony Blue]

9. I think they underestimate

how much the American public yearns for the progressive movement that is about green energy, properly fund public education and universal health care.

[rhett o rick]

10. We need to write a new Declaration of Independence. nm

[sabrina 1]

46. We should look at the old one and see if we can use anything there also. I know it's been ditched

over the past decade or so, but airc, it had a list of some grievances that seem applicable today. We can always add a few of course!

[rhett o rick]

49. The existing one would be a good start. nm

[grahamhgreen]

11. We will know the moment. Certainly, on this board, the think-tank crowd has lost their ability

to persuade.

[CrispyQ]

45. "the think-tank crowd"

[snagglepuss]

70. Your sig line is brilliant.

That there is bumper sticker gold.

[CrispyQ]

71. I stole it from somewhere. ;)

It really is perfect, isn't it?

[defacto7]

12. Agreed...

But what you call the "old guard", I call the "new guard". The Democrats that are now "starting to realize" would have to be the New new guard... I guess.

[pscot]

13. Someone has to step up

Te kind of sea change you're talking about has to have leadership; strong, transformative leadership. It's that vision thing Clinton always spoke of. This country has got to come up with a new story about itself

[MannyGoldstein]

15. We have the history.

This has all happened before, most recently about 80 years ago. We have the same tools at our disposal, and can achieve the same good with them. We need the leadership, I agree, but we're starting to see some little green shoots... And a strong sapling in Sen. Warren.

[pscot]

18. I agree with you about Warren

She has no fear. I liked your OP, by the way. Optimism is a rare fruit these days. I want you to be right.

[wilsonbooks]

19. I think we should not rely on leaders

but should focus instead on building a grass root movement. Leaders are often not who we think they are and can be bought off.

[MannyGoldstein]

20. Kinda both, I think

A good grass roots will develop good leadership, and good leaders will cultivate good grass roots.

It will be interesting this time around - the Internet will make the grass roots more powerful and more nimble. Look how quickly the Syrian escapade has gone down in flames.

[Marr]

22. I disagree-- when people decide en masse to change things, 'leaders' jump in front of the parade

and play drum major. There's never a lack of "leaders".

That's fine, whatever-- someone's got to bask in the glory, I suppose. But I wouldn't wait for one to actually lead.

[sabrina 1]

47. There are a few voices we are hearing who I believe could lead the way out of the current

mess we are in. Grayson, eg. He certainly is forthright, effective and fearless when it comes to fighting the policies that have dragged this country down.

And I love his ties.

[pinboy3niner]

14. "May you live in interesting times"

We've been so blessed.

[DeSwiss]

16. K&R

- You could call it a kind of ''harmonic convergence'' couldn't you? Further eye-opening coming to a neighborhood near you, soon!!! Hehehehehe......

K&R

[Hydra]

17. I never thought we'd reach this point, frankly

But maybe it's because of just how greatly they've overreached and how little effort they put into the propaganda this time. Whatever the reason, the normal people of the US aren't buying any of this anymore.

This isn't just a DU sea change, this is a nationwide sigh of disgust at the 1%.

They've taken too much. They took our future. Now they want to take our present.

[MannyGoldstein]

21. People tend to be on blissful autopilot until they're in pain

The 99% have had the pain of a shattered economy, and after a few years of it are facing the painful realization that virtually nobody with any power gives a #%^* about them.

"Oh. I guess there's a problem here."

[snagglepuss]

72. Chrystia Freeland observes in her insightful book Plutocrats that the the 1%

is getting teed off with the .01%. Hey I'm shedding no tears but when the 1% feels deprived you know something has got to change.

[Hydra]

75. That would make sense

I heard about a year ago how the 1% were beginning to squeeze the 10% below them. Logically, that squeeze is going to move up the chain until only 1 person holds all the clams.

IMO, though, that's maniacal. We're really going to play king of the hill to the very end?

[blackspade]

23. Nice.

[hollysmom]

24. please, I am not sure we are there yet,

from talking to relatives and friends - please please convince me otherwise, I sincerely hope we get there.

[ZRT2209]

25. "just keep swimming"

[nikto]

26. I fear...

Too many Americans are ignorant as turds, and too full of prejudice towards many of their fellow citizens
to ever make it possible for the 99% to act as one.

[MannyGoldstein]

27. That's what we need to work on

We all agree that the current leadership are primarily skilled grifters.

Now we have to come to agreement on what works. Whoever gets some success in helping the 99% will win converts, many converts.

[tex-wyo-dem]

33. Thanks for the great post, Manny...

You are exactly right, we need solidarity if we hope to make things better for the vast majority. Problem is is the PTB has worked very hard for decades, with great success, to divide the people, to get us all to fight against each other and our common good. The challenge will be to clear away the smoke of deception and see reality for what it is and expose that man behind the curtain.

And when I say "solidarity", I'm not just talking about amongst us Democrats, the left and Progressives, which has proved to be challenging enough, but even the Republicans, the right wing conservatives. A tall order indeed.

But we all (the 99%) need to realize that we have a common enemy...the predator class wall street era and corporatists and politicos. Once we join in true solidarity, all of us in the vast majority, there is nothing the PTB can do but hide in there gated communities and country clubs.

[matt in france]

39. they will hide but they wont be safe

Louis 16 and marie antionette were hiding behind royal guards right up until the revolutionary peasants raped them and had them killed

[sabrina 1]

48. That's beginning to happen for the first time in my memory, a convergence between the right and the

left on certain policies. Eg, the opposition to bailouts for the criminals on Wall St crossed all party lines. The people were ignored of course, but that was to be expected considering their arrogance and sense of superiority, for now.

Now the opposition to another of their Imperial wars has also crossed all party lines. If they ignore the overwhelming will of the people once again, that will only strengthen the will of the people.

It took time to get to where we are. And they were so successful in keeping the people divided into two camps. But that doesn't seem to be working so well anymore.

It will take time to dismantle the infrastructure they have built up but we have to begin somewhere.

I think we are beginning the process finally. OWS was a symptom of the moving away from party politics to deal directly with what has affected all Americans and people around the globe.

I agree with those who are seeing the winds of change. It's early but it's hopeful and we can begin by keeping our word to those in our government that IF they vote for this next War for Profit, they will lost their jobs in the next election no matter which party they belong to. That we will not forget them ignoring the will of the people.

[WillyT]

28. K & R !!!

[BlueStreak]

29. Bush was able to whip up a hysteria that resembles majority support

It is one thing for cowardly politicians to vote for a war when they perceive the majority of Americans are thirsty for some fresh blood.

It is another thing entirely for politicians to support a new war when the public really wants no part of it.

Each day that goes on will make that gap more apparent to the people whose arms are being twisted off by the Obama gang right now.

A couple of days ago, the "conventional wisdom" (an oxymoron if there ever was one) was that the authorization would pass, so a lot of Congress critters were trying to get the authorization worded as narrowly as possible.

But now they are starting to realize that once we make our move, it can quickly escalate out of control, no matter now narrowly the original authorization was worded. If Russia or Iran makes a strong move in response, then maybe it is on, and we'll be forced to escalate, you know, to show that we are real tough.

If the public is still at the 2:1 against point, this could get very interesting, and not in a good way for Democrats.

[Celefin]

43. ^^this^^

[malthaussen]

30. However, there is still a bit of unpleasantness to go through...

... and I do not think that the Ruling Class are going to go quietly into that dark night. And the worst-case scenaria are pretty damned grim.

-- Mal

[snagglepuss]

74. Cornered rats come to mind. nt

[colsohlibgal]

31. Maybe And I Surely Hope So

We need a real tipping point before it's game, set and match.

Elizabeth Warren has been a Godsend, one more real populist progressive and one who can put it all in simple terms that anyone with any remnant of critical thinking can grasp. Just one big improvement from sellout DINOs like Chris Dodd and Max Baucus. Actually I despise Dodd more because he was totally a wolf in sheep's clothing, the true senator from Wall Street.

Power to the people, time to go!!

[NBachers]

32. I like reading what you've written, Manny, and I agree with you this time

[mick063]

35. You are right Manny

Those that feel their power is threatened will pull out all the stops.

If we don't come out of this tailspin we don't survive. Our middle class lives are at stake.

Be willing to gambit the Queen to gain board advantage. In other words, kill the "Republican fear" extortion. The problem with extortion is that the ransom never goes away and the ransom price always goes up. Don't pay the ransom. Let the hostage die and along with it, the only bargaining chip die with it. In other words, gambit the Queen for long term goals. Vote your conscious. Don't vote against your own best interests. Don't let fear be the influence any longer.

Drop your gloves. Stay on the offensive. Don't "settle" for compromise if compromise is mediocrity.

Build a following. Play on emotion. Back it with facts. Do your research. Be relentless. Demonstrate passion. Don't give up every time you hit a bump in the road.

Our middle class lives are at stake.

[DissidentVoice]

36. I don't think the Democratic Party, as it stands today, CAN be changed

I see a split, schism, whatever you want to call it, coming in the Democratic Party.

One wing of the party, dominated by the DLC/Third Way lot, will continue to try to push the myth that being "Republican-lite" is the only path to "electability." They will try to keep the name of the party.

Another wing may or may not split off from the party...the part that remembers FDR and the days before Democrats laid down and let Republicans kick them on health care, welfare reform, etc., and didn't try to ride their coattails for "electability" and that bog-awful term "triangulation." They may or may not gravitate toward the Greens, Socialists, etc...or try to build another Democratic Party in the mould of the pre-DLC party.

[DebJ]

62. The DLC needs to go take over the Republican Party, which is going to die if

someone reasonable doesn't get in there. The DLC belongs with the Republican Party.

[DissidentVoice]

76. Agreed!

The DLC is much, much more like Jerry Ford Republicans than anything resembling the Democratic Party.

Who knows, they might just wrest it back from the cuckoo Tea Potty fringe.

And pigs might fly outta...

[Egalitarian Thug]

82. Who do you think funded them? It took over a decade to dig it out, but it turns out

that they guarded their donor list so very well for good reason. The partial list (there is still no complete list) is a who's who of Reich-Wing nuts and corporate parasites. They bought the DLC 25 years ago to do exactly what it did, turn the Democratic Party into the republican party.

Even digging the already published information out of the web is not easy as the source articles keep being renamed and moved.

[BrotherIvan]

37. Perhaps the Trojan Horse we were sold full of Hope & Change

will instead become the rallying cry for the 99% to MAKE A STAND. Disappointment, betrayal and disillusionment can be the path to enlightenment as well.

[matt in france]

38. i agree

Even my right wing family members who are upper middle class told me this summer " their goal is to destroy the middle class" who is they i asked? " the people who control our leaders"..... Holy shit was i pleased to hear that.....and my grandpa saying that our govt needs to collect more taxes to keep retirement schools etc funded....he is a millionaire....and he said its because of free trade that we lost our manufacturing and tax base......many americans...hell people around the world are waking up to the fact that the elite are destroying our way of life.....thank you occupy movement....gracias los indignos in spain...thank you to all my union sisters and brothers for getting the word out......

World workers unite!

[Fuddnik]

40. Kick and Rec!

[bluedeathray]

41. Better we get tough now

And turn this nation around. It won't be an easy fight, but if we can win in my children's lifetimes, it'll be worth it.

Tax the rich damnit! Let's have a Mississippi tax plan for the wealthy. Wide and deep! They want war? Pay for it then.

We DO have the power. The people put forth as our only choices for leadership are false choices. We have to have true representational leadership. Not corporate mouthpieces.

We can do this people.

[ctsnowman]

42. I love Warren

but take a look over the border to the south because we have a new strong Senator Murphy down here too. A real liberal.

Have a great day and I hope people will post about their liberal reps and senators more because we need to know who's who.

[Autumn Colors]

64. Yes!!

Love Chris Murphy!! Only sorry that his replacement in the house is Elizabeth Esty.

I sent Ms. Esty a letter encouraging her to vote NO on a bill to tax credit unions and I received back from her a form letter that obviously was intended to go to constituents who FAVOR taxing credit unions ... and the wording implied that she supports taxing them.

I hope we in Litchfield County can replace her with a true blue liberal when her term is up, but it's kind of "red" around here ... so I'm not optimistic (the number of houses in my town flying teabagger flags is frightening).

[ctsnowman]

66. lol IKR

I can't believe how many baggers we have in CT. I moved to Enfield so Etsy isn't mine anymore but Courtney seems pretty good so far.

Peace.

[Autumn Colors]

77. We've only been in this district for 2 years now

Was previously in Torrington (John Larson) and before that, Monroe when Chris Shays was our rep.

There's this family up the road from us who have this massive homemade sign on their property (at an intersection) that says "Murphy Must Go!" They've had it there since he was our rep., not senator. They fly their bagger flag every day.

To the north of them, across the intersection are some Paulites who put an EMPTY CHAIR on their property next to their Ron Paul signs during last election season.

I feel really bad for the people on the southwest corner of that intersection. They're trying to sell a house with no luck ... gee, I wonder why???

LOL

[Scuba]

44. Kick for morning optimism!

[Hotler]

50. Can people still afford to buy tickets to football games,....

buy tickets to NASCAR races? Yes!. Not enough people feeling the pain yet. The tipping point is a long way off.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

51. I'm beginning to think

the midterms in 2014 will be at least as important as the election in 2016. Progressives' number one priority should be to usher out McConnell. He is the figurehead for obstruction and his loss would send shockwaves.

K&R

[Cryptoad]

53. Not delievering any

retribution to Assad for his crimes is very un-Liberal

[bvar22]

65. No its not. You're very confused.

Devoting our resources to actually HELPING people instead of KILLING and Maiming them is a Liberal Value.

Starting optional WARS in countries that don't threaten us,
Killing for Peace,
trying to be the World Policemen,
BOMBING people into submission,
and feeding MORE MONEY the MIC & War Profiteers?
[font size=3]THOSE are CONSERVATIVE Values.[/font]

You obviously got lost on your way to the
Beavis & Butthead Chatroom at Aol.
Next time, turn RIGHT to find people who think like you.

No Charge.

[Cryptoad]

79. Just because you do not

agree with my options, there is no need in making personal attacks . It makes you look small.

Maybe you should do a little reading as to what is liberalism really is.
The Liberal State is always more concerned with the rights of its citizens as a whole over any individual rights.

You might start with reading essays by Joel Feinberg's "The Interest of Liberty on the Scales" and Jean Hampton's " Liberalism, Crime and Retribution"

Assad and people like him are Great Threat to the Liberal state as a whole. No dealing with with them puts all in Danger!

[bvar22]

80. I find it amusing that in Cryptoad World,

...you can criticize someone for Personal Attacks by using Personal Attacks,
and do it with a straight face.
Have you no mirrors?
Do you know the meaning of Hypocrisy?

Are you sure that an obsession with Punishing Assad by KILLING More Syrians, empowering Al Qaeda and other radical Islamist factions, and appointing ourselves the Sheriff of the World is a "Liberal Value"?
because it is not in THIS long term Liberals World.

[font size=4]
International Law Enforcement and Internal Courts is the appropriate venue,
NOT Bombs and self appointed Executioners.[/font]

If you were really what you claim,
you would already KNOW this.


---bvar22,
PROUD, unequivocal, FDR Liberal for PEACE.

[Cryptoad]

89. Passivise is not a necessary a Liberal Virtue.

Passivise is not a necessary a Liberal Virtue. As you can be a Passivise and Liberal at the same time. But You can also be a Liberal without being a Passivise.

"International Law Enforcement and Internal Courts is the appropriate venue" but only when they have jurisdiction over Mad Men.

Liberals will not let Mad men destroy our world because there is no court that has any jurisdiction over them.

True Liberals understand dangers of these Mad Men and will preserve the Liberal State.

btw ,,,, FDR knew what a real liberal was.

[bvar22]

96. Another bizarre/diversionary Strawman.

Who said anything about being Passive?
DUers who know me in person will testify that I am an active, two fisted ,
kick ass, Union THUG, capital "L" LIBERAL activist
who Shows Up, does the heavy Lifting, and doesn't take no shit from Conservatives, Republican OR Democrat.

TRY to stay on topic,
otherwise, I have to assume you have a different agenda.

The goal is not to convince anyone of anything.

It is to thoroughly hijack, pollute and therefore eliminate public spaces where real discussion and organization can occur. Occupy is disbanded with clubs and pepper spray. Dissent and organization online are disrupted with surveillance and propaganda.

It is no accident that propaganda brigades post new threads on discussion boards far out of proportion to their presence in the community, and that they nearly *always* demand the last word in any interchange.

The goal is to disrupt the important public space for liberal thought, discussion, and organization that these boards offer, and to keep the participants busy instead batting off the corporate lies and talking points.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801
woo me with science Sun Jul 28, 2013

And do NOT try to tell ME what an FDR Liberal is.
I have LIVED it for over 60 years,
and fought for it as a registered Democrat for over 45 years.
I KNOW what an FDR Liberal is.
You clearly do NOT.

I will Fight to keep us from making another HUGE mistake by getting involved in another useless, elective WAR for the greater glory and profit of the MIC.
I will NOT tolerate the senseless killings of MORE innocents in the ME.
Not in MY name!



[font color=firebrick size=3][center]"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."
--- Paul Wellstone[/font][/center]
[center][/font]
[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center][/font]

[Cryptoad]

97. Seems you are the one that keeps changing subjects

as you continue your personal attacks against me.

[bvar22]

98. Same place, same subject.

Devoting our resources to actually HELPING people instead of KILLING and Maiming them is a Liberal Value.

Starting optional WARS in countries that don't threaten us,
Killing for Peace,
trying to be the World Policemen,
BOMBING people into submission,
and feeding MORE MONEY the MIC & War Profiteers?
THOSE are CONSERVATIVE Values.

You obviously got lost on your way to the
Beavis & Butthead Chatroom at Aol.
Next time, turn RIGHT to find people who think like you.

No Charge.

Must I shout to penetrate the Bubble?



[font size=5]
Starting optional WARS in countries that don't threaten us,
Killing for Peace,
trying to be the World Policemen,
BOMBING people into submission,
and feeding MORE MONEY the MIC & War Profiteers?
THOSE are CONSERVATIVE Values. [/font]

[Cryptoad]

99. More

personal attacks, LMAO!

[AverageJoe90]

87. I fully agree....but will a strike without international support really work? We need to be careful.

End of message.

[Cryptoad]

90. Aggreed

President Obama is a very smart deliberate person. I believe he will find the "right" retribution for Assad's Justice.

[AverageJoe90]

92. I have reasonable faith in him as well.

I'm afraid it may be true that none of the possible options may come without their own drawbacks, but the same held true for Libya and things didn't turn out as badly as many thought they would. And Obama did the right thing when OBL was taken out, too. So I think he'll definitely try to figure out what seems to be the most effective position to take and run with it. And so far, he hasn't been wrong, even with Libya when confusion was often the order of the day(just like in Syria today).

[Cryptoad]

93. Got my little Toad toes crossed for him! nt

[Zorra]

54. We have the power to do nothing, and we need to get together and agree on how to do it wisely.

This brings me to my main point. While Foucault was not a revolutionary philosopher like Marx was, his observations point to the vulnerability of the present system. Without the appearance or air of authority, the present power structure simply ceases to exist. The OWS movement implicitly understands this. It is not a revolutionary movement in the conventional sense. It does not seek merely to replace the heads of authority—whether governmental or economical. Rather, it seeks to replace the existing power structure entirely. Do not think of OWS as an interest group or a political party. When it claims to be (rather than to represent) the 99%, it means it literally. The entire 99% may not be on the street protesting and many of them are still stuck in their habits of self-surveillance and conformity. Nevertheless, the advent of instantaneous, decentralized communication has caused the masses to turn the surveillance tables onto the existing power elites.
snip---
If it seems like people who would ordinarily support the Democrats are skeptical or are unenthusiastic, it is because we know that the political contest is a sideshow. The reason it is “Occupy Wall Street” and not “Occupy the Capitol” is because we know that Washington is a puppet theater and that gambling on change by playing party politics is a sucker’s game. Again, the idea is not simply to replace leaders or to enact specific reforms. OWS seeks to replace the entire political, social, and economic culture with a wider sense of human community. It already conducts itself in that manner. Rather than leaders with the prerogative to make decisions for the group, OWS operates on consensus. It is clear from the past ten or twelve years that there is no political, institutional solution for what ails us. Fortunately, we do not need one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/100238810

[woo me with science]

56. Thank you for posting this.

The reason it is “Occupy Wall Street” and not “Occupy the Capitol” is because we know that Washington is a puppet theater and that gambling on change by playing party politics is a sucker’s game. Again, the idea is not simply to replace leaders or to enact specific reforms. OWS seeks to replace the entire political, social, and economic culture with a wider sense of human community

[Zorra]

67. My pleasure.

That was from what I consider one of the best posts ever posted here. Kudos go to DUer Deep13 for creating that.

While I believe it is important, and makes sense, to elect Democrats in order to make social and some environmental gains that would not be made under a republican party government, it seems obvious that both parties are obliged to maintain the status quo of 1% control over most or all world and domestic economic and military/police matters.

It just seems logical and just to create and improve maintain the best social conditions possible for the majority of people, especially minorities of all kinds, while we are in process of replacing the system with something far more beneficial to human beings and the planet than the chaotic, profit driven mess we have now.

Likewise, Democrats are always going to be better than republicans on environmental issues, another good reason to keep them in office while we are in process of replacing the system.

[Myrina]

55. Oh Manny, I hope you're right.

Just when I think average folks can't get beat down any more than we already are, something even shittier happens.

I'm actually half-hoping for WW III or the "Floating Fukushima Radition Debris" to do their worst so those of us left can start civilization over again.

[randome]

57. We have been at the 'tipping point' for a hundred years.

Things are changing because the Republicans are self-destructing due to demographics and long-term unviability of their philosophy. The Democratic party is on the rise because of demographics and the long-term unviability of the Republican party.

If things are going to change it will basically be because the existing institutions have run their course. I see no evidence of mass uprisings to force change. Yet things are changing.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[Fantastic Anarchist]

58. And we need to organize internationally ...

I can't stress this enough; capitalists understood Trotsky, and flipped it on its head, got out in front and globalized capital; leaving labor fractured and confined within national boundaries. This is how they've gotten away with so much. Labor is powerless when it can organize internationally.

[Nay]

59. I hope so. It's about goddamn time. nt

[heaven05]

61. who are you kidding?

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Yeah we can always fight and I've been fighting for my rights as a human being since the 60's. In this the 21st century, my rights as a human being don't mean SHIT! A majority of our political leaders, state and national, the MIC and on down to the local militarized 'protect and serve' force care nothing about our rights or desires as citizens of this exposed hypocrisy called the american democracy. By "get harder" do you mean more people beaten down while standing in a peaceful circle singing? For sure. By "get harder" do you mean the numbers of dissatisfied citizens marching in the streets and probably getting shot down in those streets? For sure. Human life and dignity of the 99% mean nothing to the 1%er PTB. That is If sufficient numbers can tear themselves away from honey booboo to march in the streets for a voice. I admire your spirit, yet I want you in the streets marching with us 99%ers, not predicting that it will "get harder". It's hard already. It already sucks and by sucks do you mean dead americans in the streets shot down by other americans for voicing dissent. Are you going to stand in those streets with me/us? Are you willing to die so that "we'll win" after we have "recognized our power and used it wisely"?

[joanbarnes]

63. Thank you for a glimmer of hope in a dark world. I SO hope you are right!

[bvar22]

68. There IS hope!

Our neighbors in Latin America have given us a Blue Print for "CHANGE".
Many our the neighboring countries to The South have successfully wrested their countries from the hands of the Global 1% through near bloodless Ballot Box Revolutions.

[font size=3]"The worst enemy of humanity is U.S. capitalism. That is what provokes uprisings like our own, a rebellion against a system, against a neoliberal model, which is the representation of a savage capitalism. If the entire world doesn't acknowledge this reality, that nation states are not providing even minimally for health, education and nourishment, then each day the most fundamental human rights are being violated."[/font]
----Bolivian Reform President Evo Morales

FDR said much the same thing in 1944 with his Economic Bill of Rights,
so these concepts are not so radical or alien to the USA.
At one time, not so long ago, voting FOR The Democrat was voting for these values.
We CAN go there again.

When the American Working Class & The Poor realize we have more in common with each other
than we have in common with the 1%Elite and their Mouth Pieces in Washington,
then we can have "change" too!


Spread the WORD.
VIVA Democracy!
We outnumber them!


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[ocpagu]

69. I don't remember ever seeing such a high level of opposition against a war in the US.

Here in Brazil, a common sentence seen in reference to this in social networks and online forums is "Americans woke up".

I'm really glad to see it and I'm proud of our northern neighbors. There's no hope for the world if there's no change within the US. Are we starting to see that? I hope so.

[Jackpine Radical]

78. Some of us have been trying to shake this nation awake for the past 45 years.

Maybe, just maybe…

But my cynicism, born of experience, reminds me of the people who were thinking that the consequences of electing Nixon in 1968 would result in a great awakening. I guess we almost brought it off back then, but our naievité did us in.

[blkmusclmachine]

73. 1 Party, 2 Faces, and against the 99%

[ConcernedCanuk]

81. It's called an apogee

.
.
.

the farthest or highest point : culmination <Aegean civilization reached its apogee in Crete>

Then,

it's all downhill from there

USA is at that point methinks.

Obama's stance on Syria is gonna bring the USA down, and for what gain?

Barack has got China and Russia's feathers ruffled on this - for a tiny country that is of absolutely zero threat to the USA.

Obama has absolutely no moral or legal justification with his declarations to circumvent/ignore the United Nations decisions.

DimSon did better in that respect as much as I hate to say it.

Obama should be waiting for the UN to do as it is mandated to do . .

Keep peace in the World and prevent human suffering . .

Oh wait, . . . . Silly me . . .

I forgot about the needs of the MIC/PNAC and so on;

Carry on Barack - feed that war-machine

Wouldn't want it to starve for lack of blood and guts.

(yeah - I'm getting awful angry)

"Hope" - "Change"

right . . .

CC

[Veilex]

83. K&R

[polichick]

84. k&r - moving toward critical mass!

[Uncle Joe]

85. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, MannyGoldstein.

[Matariki]

86. Great post Mr. Goldstein

Your optimism is admirable!

[Chan790]

88. All of this make me very happy, but...

I feel it all comes to naught if we can't keep the PTB from selecting a DLCer pro-TPP plutocrat like Hillary Clinton in 2016 as the "viable inevitable Democrat" to shoehorn into the Democratic nomination by destroying anybody not in line with their technocratic center-right platform.

[liberal_at_heart]

91. K&R

[Agony]

94. Doubleplusgood

it appears that I am a Warren/Grayson Democrat now... my own Democratic Senators have gone to shit...

my Repuke rep always was a lost cause.

[woo me with science]

95. K&R

[woo me with science]

100. kick

[RKP5637]

101. We, the 99% in this country, are the majority NOT the 1%. We need to start

acting like the majority!