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http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/320357-nra-claims-nsa-illegally-created-a-gun-database(Warning: autoplaying video. Sorry)
The National Rifle Association joined the American Civil Liberties Union's lawsuit on Wednesday to end the government's massive phone record collection program.
In a brief filed in federal court, the NRA argues that the National Security Agency's database of phone records amounts to a "national gun registry."
"It would be absurd to think that the Congress would adopt and maintain a web of statutes intended to protect against the creation of a national gun registry, while simultaneously authorizing the FBI and the NSA to gather records that could effectively create just such a registry," the group writes.
After leaks by Edward Snowden, the NSA acknowledged that it collects records on virtually all U.S. phone calls. The data include phone numbers, call times and call durations, but not the contents of the conversations. The NSA says it only "queries" the database a limited number of times for specific national security reasons
In a brief filed in federal court, the NRA argues that the National Security Agency's database of phone records amounts to a "national gun registry."
"It would be absurd to think that the Congress would adopt and maintain a web of statutes intended to protect against the creation of a national gun registry, while simultaneously authorizing the FBI and the NSA to gather records that could effectively create just such a registry," the group writes.
After leaks by Edward Snowden, the NSA acknowledged that it collects records on virtually all U.S. phone calls. The data include phone numbers, call times and call durations, but not the contents of the conversations. The NSA says it only "queries" the database a limited number of times for specific national security reasons
So. I forget where we stand on trading liberty for security, but there's that to add to the mix.
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NRA joins ACLU lawsuit, claims NSA starting 'gun registry' (Original Post)
Recursion
Sep 2013
OP
Awesome...hopefully there are other civil rights groups looking at the implications on their
pipoman
Sep 2013
#1
The NRA was very active in defeating a bill which would have prevented a gun registry and they
Thinkingabout
Sep 2013
#2
Are you serious, Joe Manchin was one of the sponsors, it would have outlawed a registry but NRA
Thinkingabout
Sep 2013
#5
pipoman
(16,038 posts)1. Awesome...hopefully there are other civil rights groups looking at the implications on their
interests..the media comes to mind, maybe churches..the more claims the merrier..
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)3. I feel the same way. I hope there is massive pushback against the NSA. nt
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)2. The NRA was very active in defeating a bill which would have prevented a gun registry and they
Want to file a suit because of their belief there is a gun registry. Just goes to show their mass confusion.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)4. What bill was that?
They already have a SCOTUS decision finding a gun registry is unconstitutional..
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)5. Are you serious, Joe Manchin was one of the sponsors, it would have outlawed a registry but NRA
fought passage, the bill would have had charges brought against anyone who made a registry, so NRA must want a registry to be created.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)6. Oh, you're talking about the bill
that would have been struck down almost immediately because it violated the commerce clause..pretty sure that was the reason the NRA opposed the bill..the whole registry issue was an attempt to lure the NRA in..problem was, there is already case law making a registry of firearms "in common use for lawful purposes" unconstitutional..