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Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:26 PM Sep 2013

Okay, DU family, I need to vent here because I'm trying to avoid having to hit you guys

up for bail tomorrow. Here's the skinny, In 2011, we found out that when the we received the bill for our Homeowner's policy, it was ASTRONOMICALLY more expensive than it was for 2010-2011 and I have been courted by another company for the SAME coverage that was 600.00 cheaper. So, we made the switch, saving money with Homeowner's, car, flood AND earthquake Insurance being 200.00 less than JUST the premium with the old company. We were very happy with the new company and found ourselves at premium time again. BUT come to find out that EVEN THOUGH we've been with the new company for a year, SOMEHOW, our old agent CHARGED US FOR HER MUCH HIGHER INSURANCE AND FLOOD WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE OR PERMISSION...ALMOST 1600.00 this creep put through on our the credit card account we used when we had an account with her!!

SHE NEVER CALLED NOR MAILED US ANYTHING , basically charging us for insurance we didn't need nor asked her for. THIS HAS TO BE ILLEGAL as I have neither spoken to nor have thought of her. Isn't this illegal?

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Okay, DU family, I need to vent here because I'm trying to avoid having to hit you guys (Original Post) Ecumenist Sep 2013 OP
first contact "her" and find out what happened. could be inadvertent. nt msongs Sep 2013 #1
It was inadvertent when we hadn't had her and had another insurance company AND agent Ecumenist Sep 2013 #4
Don't call her,call the card co.and forget about lawyers and insurance commisioners too. easychoice Sep 2013 #13
This is STRAIGHT IP FRAUD AND THEFT... I'm contacting the insurance commissioner today Ecumenist Sep 2013 #14
So you are really out the money? easychoice Sep 2013 #17
Contact your state insurance licensing authority and ... 99Forever Sep 2013 #2
call the card co. have them remove the charge. easychoice Sep 2013 #3
Excellent suggestion Hekate Sep 2013 #5
Unauthorized charge, easily disputed. Nt Barack_America Sep 2013 #7
Yep, it saved me a lot. defacto7 Sep 2013 #8
they will probably want you to talk to the insurance agent first hfojvt Sep 2013 #12
Have your credit card company put a hold on the charge until the issue is resolved. NV Whino Sep 2013 #6
Exactly. The cards deal with these things all the time. It is possible that she had the policy anneboleyn Sep 2013 #9
No, if it were auto renew. it would it wouldn't have happened AFTER a year with the new company.. Ecumenist Sep 2013 #15
You should certainly call your 2naSalit Sep 2013 #10
Yep, the new company did notify her LAST YEAR that they were our carrier. I started reading Ecumenist Sep 2013 #16
Take her to small claims court or at least threaten to if she doesn't Cleita Sep 2013 #11

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
4. It was inadvertent when we hadn't had her and had another insurance company AND agent
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:36 PM
Sep 2013

for over a year? REALLY? I guess anything's possible but I doubt it especially since we got several mailings from her...but a STATEMENT after she charged us...

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
13. Don't call her,call the card co.and forget about lawyers and insurance commisioners too.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 03:01 AM
Sep 2013

$1600 is coffee money to those people.Just calm down and cancel the transaction.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
14. This is STRAIGHT IP FRAUD AND THEFT... I'm contacting the insurance commissioner today
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 06:54 AM
Sep 2013

This is more than someone adding a little surcharge to a lunch ticket. Sorry but this is a wee bit more than a hair in a bowl of soup.

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
17. So you are really out the money?
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 04:34 PM
Sep 2013

Has anyone transferred funds? Or is it an automated billing snafu? Something like the opt out hassle I got into with HughesNet over their season baseball program where they just kept on billing if I didn't inform them to quit.
Did they actually take money from you that you can't get back? Did you have to opt out to keep from being included in the billing cycle?
I guess I am just seeing a big understanding,not any actual crime.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
2. Contact your state insurance licensing authority and ...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:31 PM
Sep 2013

... the state's attorney and a personal attorney, immediately.

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
3. call the card co. have them remove the charge.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:34 PM
Sep 2013

Tell them in the future to phone you if anyone tries to charge anything over $100.00.
Thats how I found out someone was trying to use my PayPal account.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
8. Yep, it saved me a lot.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:46 PM
Sep 2013

Someone tried to put $2600 worth of crystal dinner ware on my card a few months ago and the bank called me since I had a $200 limit on it without authorization. It stopped it cold.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
12. they will probably want you to talk to the insurance agent first
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 02:44 AM
Sep 2013

that's the way I remember it, although it has been a decade since I worked in customer service for a credit card company.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
9. Exactly. The cards deal with these things all the time. It is possible that she had the policy
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:53 PM
Sep 2013

on some type of "auto renewal" system, though you should have definitely received a statement (or at the very least an email or some type of notification that you were about to be charged a large amount of money) explaining when you would be charged and for how much money exactly.

Call the card company and explain that this is a disputed charge as this insurance agent was NOT AUTHORIZED to charge your card again for a year's worth of unneeded insurance. And of course call the agent and tell her that the company did not have permission to charge your card and that the funds must be refunded or you will file a claim against them (per the other posters' suggestions).

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
15. No, if it were auto renew. it would it wouldn't have happened AFTER a year with the new company..
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 06:57 AM
Sep 2013

I've already contacted her office and she's acting like it was something I authorised.

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
10. You should certainly call your
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:56 AM
Sep 2013

card issuer but WRITE to your former agent (I suggest registered mail and a return receipt) and tell her that she did not have permission, etc. Keep the original and send her a copy and maintain a paper trail of all interactions so there is no question as to your intentions and her having received it.

Stay on top of it but always take notes if you speak to her but the best thing is to have it all on paper to avoid a conflict of :he said, she said" with no proof. Just in case things get ugly. Protect yourself.

Also, your new insurance agency should have notified your old agency *maybe* - this is so with auto insurance in my state... don't own a home so I can't say for sure on that point but in any case she should have contacted you in some form prior to allowing a charge to go through. you can also go over her head, so to speak, by contacting her supervisory persons/office... send them a copy of that letter you might be sending to the agent in question. These people are there to provide a service and if you aren't satisfied or feel they have wronged you, exercise your rights and keep the authorities informed (as advised in a previous post above) ...contact the state ins. board or whatever your state has even if it's the AG. But do create a paper trail!

Hope you get it all worked out to your satisfaction.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
16. Yep, the new company did notify her LAST YEAR that they were our carrier. I started reading
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 06:59 AM
Sep 2013

a few places where people review services and it seems that this is something she does on the regular.

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