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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:00 PM Sep 2013

The Daily Caller report cited by Grayson was written by the president of neocon group

Verify chemical weapons use before unleashing the dogs of war
http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/29/verify-chemical-weapons-use-before-unleashing-the-dogs-of-war/

The interesting thing is that opinion is by the president of a group aligned with PNAC.

The Foundation for Democracy in Iran is a U.S. organization. Several of its Board Members are current or former CIA assets, including former CIA Director Wollsey and former Defense intelligence operative Frank Gaffney, and others are openly affiliated with the Mossad intelligence agency, including Menashe Amir.[citation needed] FDI was founded in 1995 by Kenneth R. Timmerman, Peter W. Rodman, Joshua Muravchik and American intelligence officials advocating regime change in Iran.[citation needed]

Recently, the group gained attention for a lawsuit it brought in the Southern District of New York for Manhattan alleging that Iran was behind the 9-11 terrorist attacks.[citation needed]

Its website delivers news and intelligence concerning Iran.

In 2005, the website reported sources said that Iran "is planning a nuclear weapons test before the Iranian New Year on March 20, 2006", whereas a 2005 assessment by the International Institute for Strategic Studies concluded "if Iran threw caution to the wind, and sought a nuclear weapon capability as quickly as possible without regard for international reaction, it might be able to produce enough HEU for a single nuclear weapon by the end of this decade" assuming no technical problems [1].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Democracy_in_Iran


Kenneth Timmerman

Kenneth Timmerman is a rightist author and policy advocate who directs the Foundation for Democracy in Iran (FDI), which he founded in 1995 with Joshua Muravchik and Peter Rodman to push hawkish U.S. policies on Iran. The National Endowment for Democracy provided the group's start-up funding. For many years a journalist with mainstream outlets like Time magazine and the author of some well-received books on global affairs, Timmerman appears to have eschewed traditional journalism in favor of right-wing, hawkish activism by the early 1990s. According to his own telling, he was “fired by Time magazine for investigating the Clinton sell-off to Communist China of our national strategic technology, and it became increasingly difficult to get anything in the New York Times or Newsweek or Time or onto ABC, CNN, those types of places. Since then I've proudly waved my conservative banner."[1]

Timmerman has also been a member of a number of neoconservative-aligned pressure groups, including the Committee on the Present Danger and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, both hardline “pro-Israel” organizations that have supported an expansive "war on terror" aimed at Islamic countries.

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In addition to his writings, Timmerman has been active in promoting a lawsuit by families of 9/11 victims alleging Iranian culpability for the attacks. “The only real effect of the case is to promote right-wing political myths about Iran,” explains journalist Gareth Porter. “One of the peculiarities of such cases is that the witnesses are not subject to cross examination in court. The witnesses have every incentive, therefore to indulge in false testimony, knowing that there will be no one to challenge them.”[4]

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As a correspondent for the conservative Newsmax.com, Timmerman has been broadly critical of the Barack Obama administration.[6] In an interview with the New English Review, Timmerman summed up his view of the administration’s Middle East policies: “I believe the common thread between Obama’s response to the cries for freedom of the Iranian people and his enabling of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is this: Obama likes radical Islamic rule.”[7]

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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Timmerman_Kenneth
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The Daily Caller report cited by Grayson was written by the president of neocon group (Original Post) ProSense Sep 2013 OP
kick Whisp Sep 2013 #1
Grayson is using public records to try to inform us indirectly what is in the classified reports. Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #2
+1 Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #4
No, it's not "nonsense noise." ProSense Sep 2013 #7
Apparently, you don't like it when neocons, which the author of the piece is, are exposed. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #5
i think that grayson or his staff should have done a little googling. madrchsod Sep 2013 #3
You're suppose to ignore this. ProSense Sep 2013 #6
I bet Hagel will never provide the transcripts to this incident, which Grayson asked for jakeXT Sep 2013 #8
"And I'm surprised so many Neocons don't want wider war." ProSense Sep 2013 #10
McCain is a neocon and somehow got his amendment through jakeXT Sep 2013 #15
McCain wants a ground war, and ProSense Sep 2013 #16
Bullshit whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #17
Silliness. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #18
DU rec #5... SidDithers Sep 2013 #9
Now THAT is a real shocker! Rex Sep 2013 #11
Grayson used the Daily Caller? Typical of his sloppy shtick. nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #12
It's strange. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #14
He said he was working with Republicans. He wasn't kidding. DevonRex Sep 2013 #13
More Hyperbolic bullshit and this time it's from the neocons. that the Cha Sep 2013 #19
Hyperbole and silliness is in the air. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #21
No one should EVER believe ANYTHING they read in the Daily Caller. OregonBlue Sep 2013 #20
LOL, so you disagree with this story also.......... Logical Sep 2013 #22
Staying away is best. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #24
Still waiting on my question! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #27
Seems to be quite Cryptoad Sep 2013 #23
K&R! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #25
Kick! n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #26
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
2. Grayson is using public records to try to inform us indirectly what is in the classified reports.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:28 PM
Sep 2013

Your attempt at character assassination, while par for the course with the authoritarian chorus, is ridiculously irrelevant. We need to be informed or as a people we cannot have a functional democracy. We've already fought a total bullshit war that ruined an entire nation, just a few years ago. Now we are being asked to start another one, and the alleged evidence justifying this war is highly dubious, and our actual motivations are not being openly discussed.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. No, it's not "nonsense noise."
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:50 PM
Sep 2013

The Daily Caller is a rightwing rag.

A neocon who is advocating war with Iran who has made bogus claims about its nuclear program, who is trying to blame 9/11 on the Iranians is not trustworthy.

Are you seriously going to claim that you trust his assessment?

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
3. i think that grayson or his staff should have done a little googling.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:29 PM
Sep 2013

i used to usually check who wrote the article on the google machine. after i traced one of the greenwald`s stories origin back to a blogger here in the states i've decided to do this on all posts that have links.


by the way have you read this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3615832

one of the clearest explanation of the complexity of the middle east

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. You're suppose to ignore this.
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:36 PM
Sep 2013

After all, if Grayson wants to quote a neocon source as credible, he should be able to without anyone pointing it out.

My bad. Sheesh!

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
8. I bet Hagel will never provide the transcripts to this incident, which Grayson asked for
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:05 PM
Sep 2013

I first saw a tweet from Kucinich on this story


And I'm surprised so many Neocons don't want wider war.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. "And I'm surprised so many Neocons don't want wider war."
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:07 PM
Sep 2013

Neocons only have one objective: oppose Obama.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
15. McCain is a neocon and somehow got his amendment through
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 05:04 PM
Sep 2013


I'm surprised a number of them favor low intensity warfare and a dragged out stalemate, and not something big and stupid.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
16. McCain wants a ground war, and
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 05:15 PM
Sep 2013

"I'm surprised a number of them favor low intensity warfare and a dragged out stalemate, and not something big and stupid. "

...neocons are not to be trusted. As I said, the author of the piece is neocon who is advocating war with Iran, who has made bogus claims about its nuclear program, who is trying to blame 9/11 on the Iranians.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. Now THAT is a real shocker!
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 04:10 PM
Sep 2013

What he said sounded so unlike him...my my my WHAT is going on here!? PNAC? I've been told they are nothing more then a myth like the BFEE, right here on DU for many many years.

So now it is kewl to believe in PNAC now? That only took a decade.

Cha

(296,674 posts)
19. More Hyperbolic bullshit and this time it's from the neocons. that the
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 06:16 PM
Sep 2013

best he could do? I think so.

thanks for exposing it, PS.

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