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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Afghanistan a "just" war?
The 9/11 attack was terrorism, and in response, only one person voted against the original AUMF that launched the war in Afghanistan.
Barbara Lee
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll342.xml
Ron Paul voted yes. Dennis Kucinich voted yes.
Opposition to the decade-long Afghanistan war stems from numerous factors these include the view that the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was illegal under international law and constituted an unjustified aggression, the view that the continued military presence constitutes a foreign military occupation, the view that the war does little to prevent terrorism but increases its likelihood, and views on the involvement of geo-political and corporate interests. Also giving rise to opposition to the war are civilian casualties, the cost to taxpayers, the length of the war to date, and the estimates by many that it could last for many more decades.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)
The Iraq war is mentioned a lot because of Bush's lies that got us into war, but is the Afghanistan war better because Congress approved it?
kentuck
(111,056 posts)He started out good - at the top of his class. But somewhere along the line, he lost his way. And they had to go up the Nang River and take him out.
HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)from Conrad's Heart of Darkness (the novel that served as source for Apocalypse Now) to show at least the narrator's (and presumably Conrad's also) absolute disdain for and bewilderment at what the French and Belgians were up to in the Congo.
Kudos for the reference. Quite a propos.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Coppola denies that Poe was a primary influence and instead says the character was loosely based on Special Forces Colonel Robert B. Rheault, whose 1969 arrest over the murder of a suspected double agent generated substantial news coverage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Kurtz
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)It's a war we ended up fighting because we were shortsighted.
But that seems to be official US foreign policy.
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)And the secondary objective was to dismantle the Taliban safe haven for AQ, which has yet to be fully achieved. So, as a result it was not a just war since the objectives where not met.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)But almost everyone was pretty unanimous back then. Thats why I have no used to politicians. And by having no use for politicians, you telling me who voted how no it means nothing now or then.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Let us go back to the reason er reasoning by the Bush regime.
http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5166.
PARIS, Nov 15 (IPS) - Under the influence of U.S. oil companies, the government of George W. Bush initially blocked U.S. secret service investigations on terrorism, while it bargained with the Taliban the delivery of Osama bin Laden in exchange for political recognition and economic aid, two French intelligence analysts claim.
In the book ''Bin Laden, la verité interdite'' (''Bin Laden, the forbidden truth''), that appeared in Paris on Wednesday, the authors, Jean-Charles Brisard and Guillaume Dasquie, reveal that the Federal Bureau of Investigation's deputy director John O'Neill resigned in July in protest over the obstruction.
Brisard claim O'Neill told them that ''the main obstacles to investigate Islamic terrorism were U.S. oil corporate interests and the role played by Saudi Arabia in it''.
It isn't a just war; it is just a war.
JI7
(89,241 posts)while letting the UN or some other international force start to get in there to try to get some humanitarian help and change , especially for women.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)A just war is an oxymoron. There may be wars that are justified, but there is no such animal as a "just war".
ProSense
(116,464 posts)So you believe it was "justified"?
cali
(114,904 posts)I think I'll start emulating YOU and just weasel my response to you.
It's what you richly deserve.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)hey emulating you with your weasel answers is fun.
Loving it.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)The corruption then started when we installed the Pashtun Karzai.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)It was sold to us as a focused operation of eliminating the terrorist training camps. The camps where the Saudi terrorists were supposedly being trained and where OBL was supposedly located as well. Nothing more. Nothing that should still be going on currently.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)post. The words 'invited' and 'just war' should be knitted into a sweater for you to wear this fall. That's how good they look on you.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)questions asked of you, but you got your answer. The lexicon is the message, the choices of verbiage are the definition of your view, there is nothing more to speak of than the word choices as there is no content possible when using such language as 'just war' or when asking who 'invited' a mass murder. The entire message is in the words. So that's what I talked about. Sickening language defines the message.
Instead of a sweater it could be a 'Just War' and 'We Invited 9-11' sandwich board for you to wear, I bet John Kerry could get the Saudis to pay for it. It is their sort of newspeak.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Response to ProSense (Original post)
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rug
(82,333 posts)It has become the Andromeda Strain for terrorism.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)I am glad people are asking this question, regardless of their answer.
deurbano
(2,894 posts)I thought we should try to bring those who were actually guilty of planning, funding and assisting in the crime to justice.