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Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:38 AM Sep 2013

Obama would be perceived to be strong to respect the vote

of Congress regarding Syria by the American public and abroad. I don't buy the narrative that the media is peddling that it would make Obama look weak. We are a Democratic Republic and what better way to show the world? That is the strength of the people and not a single man. We delegate our power to President Obama on our behalf but we do not do so freely and without question. And we have checks and balances as well which is multi layered.

If Obama respects our values and what we cherish that is strength. And we would owe him our deepest gratitude if that is what he chose to do by respecting the vote of Congress.

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Obama would be perceived to be strong to respect the vote (Original Post) Harmony Blue Sep 2013 OP
I agree and I have the feeling if the House votes no and he goes in gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1
That's more likely if he goes ahead pscot Sep 2013 #2
yeah that's what I meant gopiscrap Sep 2013 #3
i have thought the same thing since this has started madrchsod Sep 2013 #4
I can't believe we're at this point NuclearDem Sep 2013 #5
I voted for Obama for president for HIM to use HIS judgement in making the 'hard decisions' Tx4obama Sep 2013 #6
Well, at least your honest with what you think of democracy. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #7
Some people on the left are sheep just like the teabaggers are sheep. JRLeft Sep 2013 #8
Our priorities are right noise Sep 2013 #9
Agreed . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #10

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
4. i have thought the same thing since this has started
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:48 AM
Sep 2013

in fact i posted my thoughts about the house and senate vote tonight

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
5. I can't believe we're at this point
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:50 AM
Sep 2013

The point where we would have to be thrilled that an elected official would respect the will of the people and rule of law.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
6. I voted for Obama for president for HIM to use HIS judgement in making the 'hard decisions'
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:09 AM
Sep 2013

... NOT for him to take a poll and go with the popular opinion of the pubic - especially since the there is a huge number of Americans that do not even know the vice-president of the United States!

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
7. Well, at least your honest with what you think of democracy.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:24 AM
Sep 2013

Because we're all too fucking stupid to know what we want when it comes to war.

So, what, did you vote out the guy who said "fuck public opinion, I'm going to do what I want" in favor of another guy who's leaning towards "fuck public opinion, I'm going to do what I want"?

noise

(2,392 posts)
9. Our priorities are right
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:31 AM
Sep 2013

We all agree the prestige of the Presidency is more important than those at the receiving end of cruise missiles. Maybe everyone will make jokes at the next WH Correspondents Dinner.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
10. Agreed . . .
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:38 AM
Sep 2013

This whole notion that a defeat on his proposal from Congress somehow weakens him is absurd. Virtually EVERY president, at some point in his or her presidency, experiences a Congressional defeat of something he or she strongly believed in and pushed for. What does make him look weak, I think, is his continued beating of a dead horse. The American people have heard his argument; they understand his argument; but it appears most simply disagree with his conclusions as to what the appropriate response should be. If he accepts that graciously, the political damage will be minimal. But continuing to speechify in favor of his proposed course of actions something people will find at first annoying, then downright obnoxious. And then they'll be even more pissed off. At that point he will look weak -- not to mention desperate.

I know the President's a very competitive guy, that he likes to WIN. But this is one situation where he needs to set his ego aside and accept a loss.

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