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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:46 AM Sep 2013

AP: Lingering doubts over Syria gas attack evidence (Great Read!!)

The U.S. government insists it has the intelligence to prove it, but the American public has yet to see a single piece of concrete evidence — no satellite imagery, no transcripts of Syrian military communications — connecting the government of President Bashar Assad to the alleged chemical weapons attack last month that killed hundreds of people.

In the absence of such evidence, Damascus and its ally Russia have aggressively pushed another scenario: that rebels carried out the Aug. 21 chemical attack. Neither has produced evidence for that case, either. That's left more questions than answers as the U.S. threatens a possible military strike.

The early morning assault in a rebel-held Damascus suburb known as Ghouta was said to be the deadliest chemical weapons attack in Syria's 2½-year civil war. Survivors' accounts, photographs of many of the dead wrapped peacefully in white sheets and dozens of videos showing victims in spasms and gasping for breath shocked the world and moved President Barack Obama to call for action because the use of chemical weapons crossed the red line he had drawn a year earlier.

Yet one week after Secretary of State John Kerry outlined the case against Assad, Americans — at least those without access to classified reports — haven't seen a shred of his proof.

There is open-source evidence that provides clues about the attack, including videos of the rockets that analysts believe were likely used. U.S. officials on Saturday released a compilation of videos showing victims, including children, exhibiting what appear to be symptoms of nerve gas poisoning. Some experts think the size of the strike, and the amount of toxic chemicals that appear to have been delivered, make it doubtful that the rebels could have carried it out.

What's missing from the public record is direct proof, rather than circumstantial evidence, tying this to the regime.

The Obama administration, searching for support from a divided Congress and skeptical world leaders, says its own assessment is based mainly on satellite and signal intelligence, including indications in the three days prior to the attack that the regime was preparing to use poisonous gas.

But multiple requests to view that satellite imagery have been denied, though the administration produced copious amounts of satellite imagery earlier in the war to show the results of the Syrian regime's military onslaught. When asked Friday whether such imagery would be made available showing the Aug. 21 incident, a spokesman referred The Associated Press to a map produced by the White House last week that shows what officials say are the unconfirmed areas that were attacked.

More at: http://news.yahoo.com/lingering-doubts-over-syria-gas-attack-evidence-072755287.html

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AP: Lingering doubts over Syria gas attack evidence (Great Read!!) (Original Post) Logical Sep 2013 OP
I was wrong about Due Process ... GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #1
Those kids are just a down payment on the butcher's bill of this coming war.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #2
So true! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #3
But it's "common sense" that he did it. jsr Sep 2013 #4
I don't know either way. But amazing so many here are 100% sure he did. n-t Logical Sep 2013 #5
it's the most basic thing: show me the money nashville_brook Sep 2013 #6
Great point! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #7

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
2. Those kids are just a down payment on the butcher's bill of this coming war....
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:29 AM
Sep 2013

But the thought that it would be done ON PURPOSE to start the war is too horrible to imagine.

And so we will go through ANY mental gymnastic necessary to avoid that conclusion.

And THAT, more than anything else, is what will doom the next batch of kids.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
6. it's the most basic thing: show me the money
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 11:58 AM
Sep 2013

this whole Syrian mess is plagued with obscured intelligence and strange threats that we must take their word for it.

every time one of these messages goes out it erodes more of our faith in their side of the argument.

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