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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:42 PM Sep 2013

The stupidity of the Hitler-of-the-Month-Club tactic

From the very start of this whole public relations fiasco there have beens hints or intimations (hintimations!) that the spectacular nerve gas barrage launched by Syrian Regime Forces (henceforth SRF) at rebel forces may have had a "rogue" element. May have been outside top-down policy. (The very first leaked signal-intel was about confusion in the chain of command.)

Obama has even said that we do not care whether Assad ordered the attack personally since his regime forces surely did, tacitly acknowledging the potential ambiguity. And Obama was right in that... but having acknowledged that nuance, that our objection to the attack by regime forces is an objection to the totality of the REGIME, why then try to make it about Assad's personal qualities? (!)

If Assad were a singular villain then killing him would solve everything, like dropping a house on the Wicked Witch of the East. But Assad is one player in a dynamic where an embattled regime is likely to resort more and more to whatever tactics they have, including nerve agents. If Assad died in his sleep tomorrow the situation in Syria would get worse, not better. Everyone knows that. The ruling Alywites would be just as keen on retaining power (and avoiding their potential extermination when their regime falls) and the rebels just as keen on gaining power for the many purposes, from the reasonable to the nefarious, that elements of the heterogeneous rebel side seek.

But instead we have had the 'hitler-of-the-month' club with Kerry, and others, babbling about the personal villainy of Assad as if we were talking about the FBI seeking to apprehend John Dillinger, rather than about intervening in a civil war where the whole world has very keen interests in the outcome.

Dumb. Clown. Show.

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The stupidity of the Hitler-of-the-Month-Club tactic (Original Post) cthulu2016 Sep 2013 OP
Hitler had a moustache. Assad has a moustache IDemo Sep 2013 #1
dumb clown show indeed. cali Sep 2013 #2
"in which the official said Assad had ordered the attack." ProSense Sep 2013 #3
And the Army general who had positive control over those CW was named Maher... MADem Sep 2013 #4
Wow. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2013 #5

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. "in which the official said Assad had ordered the attack."
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:53 PM
Sep 2013
This included a phone call German spies intercepted between a Hezbollah official and the Iranian Embassy in Damascus in which the official said Assad had ordered the attack.

Like I said, this makes it worse.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023622929

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. And the Army general who had positive control over those CW was named Maher...
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 12:57 PM
Sep 2013

Maher al-Assad, Bashir's BROTHER.

He has more clout than the VPs in Syria.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
5. Wow.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 01:10 PM
Sep 2013

That's a good post.

I remember arguing w. a now late friend of mine about Saddam.

His point: Saddam = Hitler.

My point: Saddam filled a vacuum. He exists in an environment where the operating principle is/was "kill or BE killed."

If there was no Saddam... there would be anarchy. Iraq and the region were better off w/o anarchy.

One-million casualties ( deaths+ refugees+homeless+amputees+orphans, etc etc etc.) later, its pretty clear that my position ( sadly) was "right".


It seems the dynamics are largely ( not EXACTLY) the same in Syria.

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