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The US has little credibility left: Syria won't change that
Obama's argument for intervention is a hollow one: America's use of chemical weapons in Falluja makes that clear
Gary Younge
The Guardian, Sunday 8 September 2013 14.47 EDT
'I created Transjordan," Winston Churchill once boasted, "with a stroke of a pen one Sunday afternoon in Cairo." Take a look at what remains of Jordan 90 years later and you can see how. Straight borders drawn with a ruler carve indifferent frontiers through a complex region with the kind of callous colonial hubris that displayed scant regard for linguistic, ethnic or religious affiliation.
Much of the contemporary turmoil in the Middle East owes its origins to foreign powers drawing lines in the sand that were both arbitrary and consequential and guided more by their imperial standing than the interests of the region. The "red line" that president Barack Obama has set out as the trigger for US military intervention in Syria is no different.
He drew it unilaterally in August 2012 in response to a question about "whether [he envisioned] using US military" in Syria. "A red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilised. That would change my calculus. That would change my equation."
On 21 August there was a chemical weapons attack outside Damascus believed to have been carried out by the Syrian government. That changed both Obama's calculus and his memory. "I didn't set a red line," he claimed last week. I didn't draw it, he insisted, everybody did. "The world set a red line". ........................(more)
The complete piece is at: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/08/us-little-credibility-syria-chemical-weapons
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)"The noble art of losing face," Hans Blix told me shortly after the Iraq war started, "will one day save the human race."
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)adirondacker
(2,921 posts)I have to admit that I am not new here. I took a looooong break posting after the 04 primaries ( it was voluntary) I routinely read the forums though. I may have to take another sabbatical soon, since I'm becoming a bit of a curmudgeon and negative Nancy again.
Cheers!
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)this joint! It is so easy to slip into negativity when there is so much negative material we need to absorb. I've taken several long breaks from posting myself.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Chaco Dundee
(334 posts)If the world set a red line,than the world is sure not acting on it.sadly we are the only nation willing to follow up on the red line promise.or is it at all possible that we are wrong?
my gosh
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...he was ''for'' setting a red line, before he was ''not'' for setting a red line? And since the red line's already been set and crossed, we're now obligated to go and bomb the redlinees redlinors Syrians.
- And we only do this because everyone must realize that when we say we set a red line, or even if we deny we set a red line, you had better not cross it. Whether we said it or not.
K&R
Take it out.....
Uncle Joe
(58,348 posts)Thanks for the thread, marmar.