If It Turns Out We Avoid Intervention in Syria, What Will All The Screamers of Warmonger! Here Do?

[Skraxx]

Will they admit Obama played this well? That the threat of force was used judiciously to precipate a Diplomatic solution?

Or will they hail Putin and Russia as the heroes despite the "Warmonger" Obama?

Will they ignore what may ultimately turn out be a brilliantly played diplomatic coup and pretend it didn't happen?

Now, the latest revelations that Russia is calling on Syria to give up is CW's could lead nowhere, and we may end up getting involved militarily, but I think it's certainly an indication that there's more going on behind the scenes than we are privy to, and that perhaps a threat of force, used judiciously, is an effective diplomatic tool, if used wisely.

Thankfully, I believe we have leaders, like Obama and Kerry, who use threats of force wisely, and will, I believe, pull back from the brink if there is reasonable progress.

[GeorgeGist]

1. Put fools like you on Ignore?

[Skraxx]

3. IOW, Cling To Your Hatred Of Obama Regardless, And Stick Your Head in the Sand!

Got it!

[MNBrewer]

26. They'll LOVE you over in the BOG

I, on the other hand won't have to read any more of your idiotic posts.

[reformist2]

48. What, we're supposed to ignore all that we've heard, and just say, "all's well that ends well"???

[Bandit]

64. It isn't Obama that is hated, it is the War Mongering, no matter who does it.

Including people on this board.. What could possible be accomplished by a very limited strike on Syria except further feathering the nests of the Military Contractors and their bought and paid for political candidates.

[AgingAmerican]

70. When you write an attack OP like this

You should have a thick skin, because you will get called out on it

[madamesilverspurs]

55. Your comment

demonstrates how vile the tone at DU has become. Yuck.

[AgingAmerican]

72. Did you read the OP?

nt

[phantom power]

2. I'll assume our voices were heard.

[Skraxx]

4. Yes! YOU Stopped A War!

LOL! Oh, the ego!

[phantom power]

14. You sound much more like a monarchist than a Democrat

It's not about "my" voice, it's about our voices.

[Skraxx]

15. You May Refer To Me as "Yer Majesty"

[HangOnKids]

35. No, sorry I don't think that is the term I will use

Have a joyful day!

[Skraxx]

37. You Mean Regal Day

[HangOnKids]

39. No

But keep on your bad self, it is fucking hilarious.

[Autumn]

5. Seems like your little theory has been shot down. By the State Dept no less

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/state-department-kerry-syria_n_3893213.html

not much of a diplomatic coup there.

[Skraxx]

13. Umm, That Shoots Down Nothing

[Autumn]

16. Good job!

[HappyMe]

6. Pooty will still be made out to be a hero,

for some reason.

Name calling will continue, come the next issue.

[Jackpine Radical]

7. Well, I'll just celebrate

and leave the whole business of attribution up in the air where it belongs. There are just too many players, and too many potentially catastrophic (and perhaps necessary) risks being taken, for any single person or policy to carry the whole weight of praise or blame.

For one thing, how do you distinguish a brilliant diplomatic coup from a change of course necessitated by a worldwide revulsion on the part of the common people against another war?

[avaistheone1]

60. +10

[G_j]

8. that would be awesome!

I surely hope military strikes are avoided.

[atreides1]

9. Huh?

How about everything worked...why does credit have to be given to any one person or organization?

Why not just accept the fact that it was a combination of many efforts to avoid a regional conflict?

[VanillaRhapsody]

40. and then admit you got played....if it occurs...Obama was counting on your

lack of support to pull it off!

[leftstreet]

10. Obama opened that can of worms, we didn't

If he and Kerry went into this worried they'd be called 'warmongers,' then they should have rethought their strategy

[Skraxx]

17. So He'll Still Be a "Warmonger" to You, Even if there's No War?

LOL!

[leftstreet]

19. wtf are you talking about?

You're not making any sense

US foreign policy is essentially 'warmonger' by nature, regardless of the politicians in charge of its media presentation

[Skraxx]

20. You Tell Me

Since it's your nonsensical comment that started it, don't be surprised if there's further nonsense that flows from it.

[leftstreet]

22. Make me n/t

[Skraxx]

24. I See You're Maturity Level is at a Level I Find Myself Incapable of Reaching

Have fun!

[leftstreet]

29. 'your' not you're

You Seem So Familiar To Me

[KurtNYC]

36. perhaps that sentence is also the title of a book (?)

ETA: could be the sequel to "I'm Okay, You're Okay" -- "I'm Okay, I See You're Maturity Level is at a Level I Find Myself Incapable of Reaching"

[HangOnKids]

46. This is Priceless

Despite your misuse of YOU'RE this might be the most honest thing you have posted.

[G_j]

27. reality check, they just happen to be mongering

as we speak. That happens to be the reality.

war·mon·ger
ˈwôrˌməNGgər,-ˌmäNG-/
noun
1.
a sovereign or political leader or activist who encourages or advocates aggression or warfare toward other nations or groups.
synonyms: militarist, hawk, jingoist, aggressor, belligerent More

[BlueToTheBone]

52. jingoist

thanks for that. I didn't know that was a synonym. My little learning of the day.

[cali]

11. I'll certainly be relieved, but no I don't think it will be possible to

credit the President with "playing this well". It's been weeks of this issue overshadowing other compelling issues. It's strained U.S. relationships. In other words, it's been a mess and that will still be true even if the U.S. doesn't strike Syria.

In any case, your op is full of ridiculous and false claims.

No one here has "hailed Putin and Russia as heroes" in regards to this.

As for that lying asshole John Kerry, he's an embarrassment.

[michigandem58]

12. Admitting they were wrong wouldn't be an option n/t

[The Link]

21. I will be thankful there is no war. Where will the bloodlusters turn their attention?

Where will you want to the bombs to drop?

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. See....there you go...keep up the faith...

I knew you could do it!

[Bluenorthwest]

23. This OP violates the alleged SOP of GD. Are the hosts of GD always absent? All these Meta OP's need

to stop hosts, even those with which you agree. Or Skinner should simply remove the SOP and any pretense of standards of any kind.
Barf.

[VanillaRhapsody]

33. How so?

[Bluenorthwest]

54. It's whining about DU and the faults the OP sees in all the sinners around him here.

Meta was closed for a good reason, the SOP of GD says 'no whining about DU' for a good reason.

[VanillaRhapsody]

56. WoW...then I have seen a shitload of that around here for weeks...

[Bluenorthwest]

62. Then you too should comment on it when you see it. Note the OP is locked from this thread for the

personal nature of comments made in the thread about DUers. OP's about DU and DUers are against the Statement of Purpose of GD. I did not write them, the admins did. OP's about other DUers are inherently divisive and I support the admins statement that such OPs are not welcome in GD.

[FSogol]

25. K&R. I suspect they'll give credit to Putin and move on to the next outrage!

Benghazi!

[NCTraveler]

28. What will you do if he does strike Syria?

What would you like the people who are against a strike in Syria to do, sit there and shut up. Launching missiles is truly a death sentence for many and an international game-changer all in the name of American Citizens. With the rhetoric coming from the White House those opposing this should be "screaming". Your op is truly offensive and shows your inability to differentiate between personalities and blowing people to smithereens with no clear objective.

[hfojvt]

30. What I wonder is

If it turns out that flying pigs break the sound barrier, do I need duck tape to protect my windows from a sonic boom, or should I just switch to linux anyway?

If the Syrian issue is resolved, my guess is that it will not take long for Obama to defend NSA again in a statement or for Greenwald to write another article or for Obama to refuse Manning's pardon request or for Obama to offer another cut to social security and thus for GD to be, once again, filled with posts declaring the absolute perfidity of Obama and the Democratic Party smattered with a few feeble attempts by boggers to spin the latest outrage.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[VanillaRhapsody]

31. Pretend they were behind Obama all along!

[NuclearDem]

34. Obvious troll thread is obvious

[Capt. Obvious]

53. 1-5 against locking

Shocked only 1 member thought the flamebait should be locked.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. Fortunately, we have the people who oppose war by cowboy presidents to thank.

[LibAsHell]

41. We'll say "thank god he did the right thing but it shouldn't have taken this much effort"

It's hilarious you actually believe they were just posturing. If Congress had been on board immediately, we'd probably be launching missiles by now.

[bravenak]

42. What will they do?

They have plenty of things to hate about Obama. Everything is his fault. He ruined America. Obamacare isn't exactly what they want. He won't be doing something fast enough. Or nuanced enough. Or use the bully pulpit to force congress to do something or other. He killed baby Jesus. And smiles too much. He evolves. He pre killed the economy. Before he was president. He also didn't invite them to the killer parties he throws with jay-z and Beyonce. He doesn't read their minds so that he knows exactly what they want to hear. They miss Bush.

[mike_c]

43. celebrate ....

eom

[Vinnie From Indy]

44. That's easy - they will go back to being outraged about the boxes in

Edward Snowden's garage.

Cheers!

[Raksha]

45. We'll say you warmongers got caught with your pants down,

and are revealed for the liars you are in front of the whole world, starting with the Warmonger-in-Chief.

Nobody is going to give Obama credit for a brilliant multi-dimensional chess move. We'll say he was forced to save his ass (and his country's) any way he could. I think he deserves impeachment even if we avoid military involvement is Syria.

[LittleBlue]

47. Obama played this well? Haha!

Yeah, backing yourself into a corner with this red line BS, then having to backtrack and taking a political beating in the process, that's well played.




What will I do? I'll be happy that outside forces stopped Obama from intervening in another pointless Middle Eastern war.

[stevenleser]

49. I would love it if this was the intended result all along for the admin. I don't think it was.

I'll settle for no war with the WMD being taken from Assad.

[JustAnotherGen]

50. They are going hail Putin and Russia

I'm already seeing it on another thread. . . They seriously think anyone is better than Obama and ALL have a moral high ground that Mr. Dreg (Obama) of Society can only hope to obtain.

[Buddaman]

51. Wow!!

Don't recall reading anything here that would be considered warmongering....that includes Obama's stand on Syria. I think solving this thru diplomacy is a win win for everyone....DIPLOMACY is what it is, a true political way of solving issues, what sucks is the dog and pony show to get there.

[Bluenorthwest]

57. Historically, when war is averted those who opposed the war call that sweet victory.

The people who have called for war that is rejected soundly by the majority will continue to lose standing. That's another victory for reason and diplomacy.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

58. You're suggesting that if Obama fails to persuade congress to attack Syria, he should get credit?

Obama has actively tried to persuade the US to bomb Syria.

If that's the wrong decision - and I think it probably is - then if he fails, that just makes him inept as well as wrong.

I don't for a minute think that he's playing three dimensional chess; I think he genuinely wants to attack Assad's military, and if he fails to persuade Congress to do so then I will credit Congress for that, not him.

[treestar]

59. They'll credit Pooty-Poot

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[JoePhilly]

63. +1

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. Welcome to my ignore list

What a vile piece of hate filled writing.

I hope it gets alerted.

[DevonRex]

68. Are you all in a kerfunkle Nadin?

[felix_numinous]

65. If war is averted

I will be grateful that the warmongers and war profiters were not successful
this time.

Human rights are NOT left-right issues-- although the RW never fail trying to make it so.

[hughee99]

66. I suppose they'll have to battle it out with those who felt we HAD to punish

Syria to send some sort of message, and then turned around and decided if we can just get them to give up the REST of their chemical weapons, it's all good.

[DevonRex]

67. They'll hail Vlad as a Peacenik.

The savior of the free world. The champion of human rights. Russia as the shining light of democracy.

And call us worshipers who are blinded by something or another, unable to see truth.

[markpkessinger]

69. If that happens, I will never have beenj so happy to have been wrong n/t

[avaistheone1]

71. Celebrate we were right and Obama was wrong?

The ant-war sphere was right. THIS was negotiable. The President should thank us!