"Diplomacy backed by the threat of force." Gen. Wesley Clark

[polichick]

On The Ed Show now.

[BumRushDaShow]

1. He'll be under the bus in 5..4..3..2.. nt

[polichick]

7. Might get a pass since he's a military guy.

[KittyWampus]

15. and he spoke out against PNAC… and Obama and Kerry are PNAC… and

As a former supporter of Wes Clark for POTUS, I recommend this thread.

[KamaAina]

21. Obama and Kerry are PNAC?

Srsly?

[KittyWampus]

22. yes, old friend. That gambit has been played here on DU. Or they are PNAC stooges.

[KamaAina]

23. Define "PNAC stooge".

Also, you may be interested to know that PNAC has morphed into the Foreign Policy Initiative.

http://www.foreignpolicyi.org

It never changes. Before it was PNAC, it was the "Committee on the Present Danger". And so on ad nauseam.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. Yeah I saw that too Kitty!

I couldn't believe it

[dkf]

2. Aka crazy driver in game of chicken

[polichick]

3. Clark said, "We'll deal with the response." Ed answered...

"That's what Americans are afraid of."

Interesting discussion.

[blkmusclmachine]

4. !

[polichick]

12. It's unusual to pair the two, for sure.

[Brigid]

5. And then the next thing you know,

There will be boots on the ground. We all know that.

[polichick]

6. That's what came to mind with the exchange in #3

[Graybeard]

8. He was referring to Russian proposal...

..that syrians should turn over control of WMD to the UN for disposal and destruction.

Big Ed asked if the Russians can be trusted and Gen. Clark said no, but we should explore this possibility. He said this offer was made because of Obama's strong stand.

[polichick]

9. Yes - it was an interesting statement I thought...

You don't usually couple diplomacy with a bomb threat.

[KittyWampus]

16. it's called carrying a big stick, I believe.

[polichick]

17. Yeah, but usually you don't talk about the stick so much. lol

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. You have to be willing to use the stick if necessary you mean...

[polichick]

29. But it's not something you wave around with taunts...

It's more like a presence in the background.

You CARRY a big stick, you don't wave it around!

[VanillaRhapsody]

30. Sometimes you have to remind them that you still have the stick...

then how do you make a threat without it?

"I fart in your general direction"?

[msongs]

10. dems ought to use this against republicans instead of far away dictators nt

[polichick]

11. That's an excellent idea!

[KittyWampus]

14. Excellent. I totally support bombing the republican national committee. Or threatening to.

I wonder if Obama could get UN backing for that.

[blm]

20. You better put the just kidding label on that....

No one whines louder than Republicans.

[rug]

25. That's interesting. Roosevelt first used the phrase against republican legislators.

This letter contains what is thought to be the first recorded use of the phrase "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick," which was later to become a trademark description of Theodore Roosevelt's foreign policy. Here, Roosevelt, then New York's governor, waxes happily in the knowledge that he has forced the state's Republican leaders to abandon their support for the renomination of the corrupt Louis Payne as the state's insurance commissioner.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trm139.html

[KittyWampus]

13. LOL! And Catherina and others were posting Wes' video not long ago.

[The Link]

18. Clinton sycophant Wesley Clark? I'm shocked.

[polichick]

19. Sure are a lot of personalities hitting the airwaves about this.

[arely staircase]

24. Love Clark

Actually volunteered for his short-lived 2004 campaign and got to drive some of his staff (right behind his car) from the airport to the rally in my town. Got to talk to him quite a bit, great fucking guy.

[Purveyor]

26. I concluded that Clark is batshit crazy back during the Kosovo war when he wanted to get it on

with the Russians.