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In a potentially dramatic change of course, President Barack Obama told ABC News on Monday that he does not expect any votes in Congress in the near term on the use of force in Syria while the administration takes time to explore a diplomatic solution.
"I don't anticipate that you would see a succession of votes this week or anytime in the immediate future," Obama said. "So I think there will be time during the course of the debates here in the United States for the international community, the Russians and the Syrians to work with us and say is there a way to resolve this."
The diplomatic solution is not final but it involves the possible support of Russia, according to news reports. Obama said a military strike against Syria would "absolutely" be on pause if the regime agrees to do away with its chemical weapons as part of a diplomatic solution.
"I consider this a modestly positive development," he told ABC.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/obama-puts-syria-strike-on-pause-as-possible
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)wait....uh....you're a slave to your corporate masters like us, right? So why are you now backing out of an actual shooting war and back on that whole diplomacy thing? You do realize how boring diplomatic missions are, don't you? ZERO ratings. No graphics packages.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)Why would anyone answer the question of what could stop an attack like Kerry did. After weeks of speaking of the horrors of chemical weapons and saying that limiting their use was the goal. imagine he suggested they give up the weapons!
Some in the media are a permanent GAFFE
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Kerry said it. It was his response. They want to call it a "gaffe" and also claim it was the statement that made Putin react.
Everyone can read that he State Department said the part about Assad not doing it was rhetorical, not the condition for avoiding a strike. That interpretation is just silly. Why would the admistration strike if Assad actually agrees to turn over the weapons to have them destroyed?
Also consider:
"the first acknowledgment by the Syrian government that it even possesses chemical weapons"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023630685
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)When you're dealing with a rigid, power-hungry person, that's a reasonable tactic to take. You offer them an alternative while pretending you are certain they will never take it. And the other person bites -- just to prove you wrong.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023630418
The way you wrote it reminds me of advise for dealing with toddlers' tantrums. Some using almost that technique - and remembering cooping my kids into doing things that I knew they would really like - but knew they were in no mood to do anything I told them to.
I watched a small amount of Assad's interview with Rose -- and he was not at all convincing, which surprised me because there was a Rose interview from 2009 or 2010 where he was well spoken and seemed rational.
pretty much that last best chance for a diplomatic solution and the world better get on board with it. From here things will get bloody. Hopefully, both Russia and Assad realize this now.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Because it wasn't a "Gaffe"! What do you suppose President Obama and Putin talked about during their non-meeting meeting?
Well ... I suppose it's possible that a seasoned diplomatic veteran could have a slip of the tongue that just happens to be picked up by the only person on Earth that could press the Assad regime to do anything (non-militarily) and that gaffe, that Putin picked up and pressed and the Assad regime seems to welcome, also happens to be the only diplomatic solution available to President Obama AND the only thing that would allow the Assad regime to maintain the integrity of it's fire control systems (i.e., maintains its ability to maintain its military advantage over the rebels).
Yep ... it could have been a gaffe ... sure blind luck!
babylonsister
(171,034 posts)sheshe2
(83,654 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)He's alive?
I dunno...
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Stuff happens (aka shit happens.)
Skraxx
(2,967 posts)Or is he the luckiest guy in the world? Must be luck, right? No way THAT guy knows what he's doing,....right?
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,031 posts)if the Parliament of England had approved action last week.
Luck, divine interference, or careful statesmanship.
What ever you call it, I don't believe our President is leading the way on this issue.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)well,it could get ugly.
Skraxx
(2,967 posts)Strike. Period.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)Obama didn't really want to attack Syria all along. Even though he and Kerry promoted it heavily Obama foresaw that the public was going to reject it and it was just a matter of time before Russia came up with a plan.
Why just reject the idea of another war himself when he instead can bend reality?
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,456 posts)kiranon
(1,727 posts)It wasn't hard to figure out as a possible solution provided war wasn't on the table first.
Kingofalldems
(38,422 posts)LukeFL
(594 posts)Cha
(296,848 posts)look bad. Too bad for them it's so freaking obvious.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Like Kerry was thrown under the bus but it was just the next chapter being developed.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)If this dictator can kill children with Sarin, he will lie thru his teeth.
He's playing the civilized world for CLASS A SUCKERS.
The only way to get this accomplished is WITH A CREDIBLE THREAT of taking away his power base. That's the only thing this murderer cares about.
Sorry, I'm not buying this bullshit until it happens.
LukeFL
(594 posts)Can kiss our ass now. US the ones whovALWAYS believed in our President while you all turned your backs on him AGAIN.
He played with all if you parcheesi while he played chess.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)We may disagree with some of President Obama's decisions, we don't hate him.
leftstreet
(36,098 posts)If they hated him, why would they do that?
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)The same way Kerry's YES vote on the Iraq war meant he was against it.
TomClash
(11,344 posts)It is an over the shoulder circus catch in the back of the end zone.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)DUers were already writing up articles of impeachment dammit.
Peacetrain
(22,872 posts)Let us hope this gets those weapons under international wraps..
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)LostOne4Ever
(9,286 posts)I am so glad that he is pursuing peaceful means of ending this situation. THAT is the president I supported!
[center]WTG OBAMA!!!
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Logical
(22,457 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)So confusing... so confusing...
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)My Zen skills are weak. Must sit more.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)the significant domestic and international pressure Obama's administration was put under. He couldn't get countries to back him. He couldn't get the people to back him. And he couldn't get Congress to back him. He has had to step back at every stage of this fracas.
And for those of you who think that was the plan all along and he didn't want to go to war and was seeking a way out: you should be thanking the rest of us and the world for opposing military intervention.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)the significant domestic and international pressure Obama's administration was put under. He couldn't get countries to back him. He couldn't get the people to back him. And he couldn't get Congress to back him. He has had to step back at every stage of this fracas.
And for those of you who think that was the plan all along and he didn't want to go to war and was seeking a way out: you should be thanking the rest of us and the world for opposing military intervention.
...with that theory. This only happened because of Kerry's comment and Russia's response. If, as you say, Obama was in a weakened position, Putin would have had absolutely no reason to give Obama an out. He could have ignored Kerry's statement and let things proceed as before. Putin knew the deal. He was under pressure to do something other than obstruct. That is why he jumped on Kerry's offer.
Obama has already proven to the majority of people who have an official say that Assad did it. Members of Congress and the international community have condemned Assad.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)If you don't think Obama's position was weakened by the fact that people were abandoning the sinking cruise (missile) ship in droves, then there's a fundamental gap in the realities we're living in. Kerry threw that line out there (it was not an "offer" , then got thrown under the bus by the administration for it. Now it was the plan all along? Please.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)there must have been multiple revisions of talking points sent out today...
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)First draft, Kerry spoke out of turn. Second draft, well maybe not. Third draft, it was the master plan all along. Fourth draft if it falls through? Who knows.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)bobduca
(1,763 posts)What with my REAL WORLD JOB and all. :-D
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"If you don't think Obama's position was weakened by the fact that people were abandoning the sinking cruise (missile) ship in droves, then there's a fundamental gap in the realities we're living in. Kerry threw that line out there (it was not an "offer" , then got thrown under the bus by the administration for it. Now it was the plan all along? Please. "
...the "gap in the realities" is trying to claim a comment is both negative and positive.
Kerry said it. It was his response. Some want to call it a "gaffe" and also claim it was the statement that made Putin react.
Everyone can read that the State Department said the part about Assad not doing it was rhetorical, not the condition for avoiding a strike. That interpretation is just silly. Why would the admistration strike if Assad actually agrees to turn over the weapons to have them destroyed?
As for what you consider the "sinking cruise (missile) ship," the goal of the strike was to degrade Assad's capacity for another attack. His acceptance of the proposal buys more time, but he must comply.
Regardless of how Congress votes, members have condemned Assad. They agree with the assessment regarding Assad's use of chemicals. That's why you have members who don't support the President's approach offering their own proposals, and any way you slice it, those proposals are ultimatums.
There is also the UN, which even before today's developments, was prepared to act after its report. The statements by members of the G-20 and the EU means the international community was not going to let up. More countries comdemned Assad today.
spanone
(135,791 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)I hope it happens....
Uncle Joe
(58,284 posts)Thanks for the thread, ProSense.
spanone
(135,791 posts)rpannier
(24,328 posts)For what it's worth (my opinion not his decision), I am pleased he has taken this position.
I was also pleased he chose to go through congress to get authorization
If it works out, I give him a two-fer.
I am cautiously optimistic largely because there are too many players in this game to predict how this will ultimately end
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)this is a refreshing change.