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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:43 AM Sep 2013

Hallelujah! WE WON!

Oh yay! It's all good about Syria!

Kerry/Obama asks Syria to turn over chemical weapons.
Putin steps in and agrees to push this solution.
Syria agrees.
The sun comes out and birds sing.

Meanwhile in the real world, not one weapon has actually moved. (But we just know that Assad & Putin have pure hearts and will keep their word.)

And the Syrian government forces can continue to attack the 'rebels' and kill anybody that gets in their way which seems to be anything that moves in front of them.

The rebels will continue to fight the government and each other. They also will kill anybody that they think is in their way. If they have some kind of chemical weapons, which is not out of the question, who cares?

Syrians are still getting killed right and left or they are displaced into refugee camps.

But WE WON!

Nobody won anything. This is not an effing game with a scoreboard.
EVERYBODY HAS LOST!
The Syrians are literally losing everything.
The nations of the world have lost credibility by huffing and puffing about conventions and laws. Meanwhile they ignore their own complicity in letting all types of weapons loose.
People have apparently lost their minds declaring some kind of victory in the face of the abject horror still on display.

BUT WE WON!

Think about it.
Then think about the Syrian people. They are the only ones who matter, and the only thing they may have won is one less way to die.

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Hallelujah! WE WON! (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 OP
Yeah, because dying by OUR bombs is so much better... Atman Sep 2013 #1
While the outcome is turning out good... Arrowhead2k1 Sep 2013 #2
The outcome is turning out good. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 #5
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #18
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #18
Still beating the drum for a war of aggression.... I'm worried we might a concerted push for war grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #3
I don't think it's over, either. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #6
Some of them won't be happy until they get to dine with Abu Sakkar, I suppose Scootaloo Sep 2013 #10
Sometimes I really wonder. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #13
I always figured they ate the dreams of orphans and washed it down with the tears of newborns Scootaloo Sep 2013 #14
I don't think it's that many people nxylas Sep 2013 #15
One of them can afford more speech the ten million of us. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #16
Didn't you get the memo? NOT OUR PROBLEM! CakeGrrl Sep 2013 #4
President Obama won't be announcing the start of WWIII tonight . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #7
I don't think we can police the world either. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2013 #9
I'm quite aware we still have troops in Afghanistan . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #11
The original plan would have caused more harm than good Heather MC Sep 2013 #12
I really don't care who "won," all I know is that the warmongers have lost this one... for now. reformist2 Sep 2013 #8
So disidoro01 Sep 2013 #17
Whew! I was casting about for a way to put a negative spin on this Orrex Sep 2013 #20
One less way to die is better than one more way to die courtesy of the USA. Kablooie Sep 2013 #21
The powers that be arrows2flowers Sep 2013 #22

Atman

(31,464 posts)
1. Yeah, because dying by OUR bombs is so much better...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:46 AM
Sep 2013

...than dying at the hands of rebels. I'm sure the Syrian people are relieved.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Well ...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:15 AM
Sep 2013

the US interest that threatened to draw the US deeper into the conflict appears to have been resolved diplomatically, rather than militarily; but you are right ... why won't my headache go away; I took an aspirin 2 minutes ago?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Well ...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:15 AM
Sep 2013

the US interest that threatened to draw the US deeper into the conflict appears to have been resolved diplomatically, rather than militarily; but you are right ... why won't my headache go away; I took an aspirin 2 minutes ago?

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
3. Still beating the drum for a war of aggression.... I'm worried we might a concerted push for war
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:50 AM
Sep 2013

even still.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
6. I don't think it's over, either.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 06:57 AM
Sep 2013

Too many people want this war to happen. They'll find a way; I've got faith in them.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
13. Sometimes I really wonder.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:30 AM
Sep 2013

America's one-percenters might as well be cannibals. They have to eat something while they're camping at Bohemian Grove. Dancing around that giant owl works up an appetite.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
15. I don't think it's that many people
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:43 AM
Sep 2013

Unfortunately, the few who do want it have way more "speech" than the rest of us.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
7. President Obama won't be announcing the start of WWIII tonight . . .
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:06 AM
Sep 2013

It is hugely good that President Obama won't be announcing the start of World War III tonight!

Give us a break, OK? We can't solve all the World's problems with good old American air power. We shouldn't even try.

Just let us have a few years of peace, how's about it?

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
9. I don't think we can police the world either.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:18 AM
Sep 2013

And as far as a few years of peace?
That's relative. We still have troops dying in Afghanistan and that's peace? Seriously?
My how quickly we forget.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
11. I'm quite aware we still have troops in Afghanistan . . .
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:22 AM
Sep 2013

Our President should have brought them all home in 2009, instead of sending thirty thousand more.

I was alluding to a few years without the U.S. starting a new war. Guess I could have been more precise.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
12. The original plan would have caused more harm than good
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:29 AM
Sep 2013

This problem will not be solved over night. but let's face it the Middle East has been a cluster fuck for centuries, the US certainly wouldn't help much by engaging in another conflict. Diplomacy takes time, but it has a better chance of saving lives, and the environment. So let's give it time to work.

disidoro01

(302 posts)
17. So
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 08:06 AM
Sep 2013

You are from the "it's better that we kill them with our missiles" camp rather than the "let them kill each other" camp?
This is not a zero-sum game. This is the start of a political process and yes I know it's a masquerade but we have no business killing people to save people in a sovereign country.

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
21. One less way to die is better than one more way to die courtesy of the USA.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:15 AM
Sep 2013

The Syrian conflict is a mess from our viewpoint.
There doesn't seem to be a "good" side.

It's a tragedy for the Syrian people but there is not much we can do much about it right now.
At least that's how it appears from the news reports.

So we won nothing, of course.
We simply dodged a bullet that would have been damaging to everyone involved.
It may have even grazed our shoulder as it passed by.

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