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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:15 AM Sep 2013

Should somebody be the "World's Policeman?"

In a better world would somebody, presumably like the United Nations, act as the World's Policeman?


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That would be great!!!
5 (83%)
That would be ok
0 (0%)
That wouldn't be that big a deal - wouldn't do much.
0 (0%)
That would be kind of a bad idea.
1 (17%)
That would be terrible!!!
0 (0%)
If only the world's policeman would outlaw bullshit polls!
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I like to vote!
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Should somebody be the "World's Policeman?" (Original Post) el_bryanto Sep 2013 OP
How about Iceland? LiberalArkie Sep 2013 #1
WTF? Iceland? The country that banned beer from 1915 until 1989! FSogol Sep 2013 #14
But they sure know how to handle bankers LiberalArkie Sep 2013 #23
I think that makes Iceland the ideal World SEC Kennah Sep 2013 #27
Sure. All we have to do is get the world to agree on who that should be. nt rrneck Sep 2013 #2
And the mice voted to bell the cat. nt el_bryanto Sep 2013 #4
Rotate. randome Sep 2013 #9
The Security Council veto prevents the UN from being the World's Policeman. MADem Sep 2013 #3
So lets get rid of it on point Sep 2013 #5
Well, the Security Council might have something to say about that proposal.... MADem Sep 2013 #6
Giant robots..like in "The Day The Eath Stood Still"...the original KinMd Sep 2013 #7
When the lone cop finds a rapist in a knife fight with a murderer who does he arrest first? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #8
Neither. He calls for the area to be cordoned off. randome Sep 2013 #11
Concur. As should we. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #12
The population of Syria, however, encompasses far more than homicidal maniacs. randome Sep 2013 #15
Your last sentence WRT Assad and the rebels -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #17
I don't think that's cynicism. I think you're simply right. randome Sep 2013 #18
I voted yes, because I thought that was supposed to be the U.N.'s job. Raksha Sep 2013 #10
They may be the police department and magistrate's court but we're the beat cop. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #13
It doesn't work out so well when the beat cop is a self-appointed vigilante. n/t Raksha Sep 2013 #16
I agree; though others may argue the intl community turned a blind eye. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #19
Eventually we're going to have to accept the fact that the U.S. Raksha Sep 2013 #24
+10 Somehow that fits. RC Sep 2013 #29
Also the beat cop's secretly rifling through the police department amd magistrate's personnel files. sibelian Sep 2013 #26
NO! That shit was supposed to stop at the end of the cold war. L0oniX Sep 2013 #20
"the world's policeman" is an excuse for killing people and taking their shit yurbud Sep 2013 #21
Is that all it is or ever could be? el_bryanto Sep 2013 #22
we have never been the honest cop. Maybe the UN is or could be yurbud Sep 2013 #25
America! Fuck yeah! Kennah Sep 2013 #28
We have one. It's called "Interpol".... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #30
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Rotate.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:50 AM
Sep 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers. It's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. The Security Council veto prevents the UN from being the World's Policeman.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:35 AM
Sep 2013

The question really isn't "should," because someone will take the role if it's left vacant.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Neither. He calls for the area to be cordoned off.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:51 AM
Sep 2013

Then drinks coffee. And waits.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers. It's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. The population of Syria, however, encompasses far more than homicidal maniacs.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:03 PM
Sep 2013

'Think of the children!' is a much overused phrase. But sometimes thinking of the children is the right thing.

I'm hoping this entire sequence of events makes everyone -Assad, the rebels, everyone- rethink what they are doing.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers. It's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
17. Your last sentence WRT Assad and the rebels --
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:09 PM
Sep 2013

Maybe I'm too young to be this cynical but I think some people enjoy being who they are even if who they are is being an asshole.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
18. I don't think that's cynicism. I think you're simply right.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:10 PM
Sep 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers. It's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
19. I agree; though others may argue the intl community turned a blind eye.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:12 PM
Sep 2013

That argument would actually have some merit though I see no reason to allow that to drag the US into a war of choice.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
24. Eventually we're going to have to accept the fact that the U.S.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:33 PM
Sep 2013

is the George Zimmerman of international law enforcement--sickening as that is.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
29. +10 Somehow that fits.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 01:37 AM
Sep 2013

The US is not an honest policeman. We are a long time corrupt and lean on other countries to do our bidding. The list is long. Even Hawaii was acquired under duress. The then Queen surrendered to save her people from being killed by superior (read invading) US forces, on behest of business men.

1887 Constitution and overthrow preparations

In 1887, Kalākaua was forced to sign the 1887 Constitution of the Kingdom of Hawaii, which stripped the king of much of his authority. There was a property qualification for voting, which disenfranchised most Hawaiians and immigrant laborers, and favored the wealthier white community. Resident whites were allowed to vote, but resident Asians were excluded. Because the 1887 Constitution was signed under threat of violence, it is known as the "Bayonet Constitution". King Kalākaua, reduced to a figurehead, reigned until his death in 1891. His sister, Liliʻuokalani, succeeded him on the throne.
row of men with rifles
Ship's landing force at the time of the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy, January 1893.

In 1893, Queen Liliʻuokalani announced plans for a new constitution. On January 14, 1893, a group of mostly Euro-American business leaders and residents formed a Committee of Safety to overthrow the Kingdom and seek annexation by the United States. United States Government Minister John L. Stevens, responding to a request from the Committee of Safety, summoned a company of U.S. Marines. As one historian noted, the presence of these troops effectively made it impossible for the monarchy to protect itself.[52]
Overthrow of 1893—the Republic of Hawaii (1894–1898)

In January 1893, Queen Liliʻuokalani was overthrown and replaced by a Provisional Government composed of members of the Committee of Safety. Controversy filled the following years as the queen tried to re-establish her throne. The administration of President Grover Cleveland commissioned the Blount Report, which concluded that the removal of Liliʻuokalani was illegal. The U.S. government first demanded that Queen Liliʻuokalani be reinstated, but the Provisional Government refused. Congress followed with another investigation, and submitted the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which found all parties (including Minister Stevens) with the exception of the queen "not guilty" from any responsibility for the overthrow.[53] The accuracy and impartiality of both the Blount and Morgan reports has been questioned by partisans on both sides of the debate over the events of 1893.[52][54][55][56]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii


Sound familiar?

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
26. Also the beat cop's secretly rifling through the police department amd magistrate's personnel files.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:58 AM
Sep 2013

Not tremendously healthy!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
21. "the world's policeman" is an excuse for killing people and taking their shit
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:47 PM
Sep 2013

It's Machiavelli 101: whatever you do, you should make it look virtuous:

I'm not stealing that guy's gold fillings to sell them and melt them down--I'm worried they might contain mercury that will poison him. That he got killed in the process is just an unfortunate misunderstanding.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
22. Is that all it is or ever could be?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:49 PM
Sep 2013

Is the only possible cop a corrupt cop? or is it within the realm of possibility that we could have an honest cop? Not the US perhaps.

Bryant

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
25. we have never been the honest cop. Maybe the UN is or could be
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:55 AM
Sep 2013

but I've never looked at any of their interventions closely enough to check if they were truly altruistic.

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