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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:18 AM Sep 2013

White House Takes Credit For Syria’s Apparent Concession (updated)

Last edited Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:06 PM - Edit history (1)

White House Takes Credit For Syria’s Apparent Concession

As Syria announced Tuesday morning that it would accept Russia’s offer to hand over its chemical weapons, the White House and other proponents of U.S. strikes rushed to claim credit, arguing that the threat of military intervention brought the Assad regime to the negotiating table.

“In our view, the only reason this is now being seriously discussed by the Russians is because of the threat of U.S. military action,” a senior administration official told TPM. “Were chemical weapons to be transferred into international control and ultimately destroyed, that would be a positive outcome. But, if this has any chance of happening, we need to have the threat of military action in our pocket.”

Lawmakers took the same line in responding to the sudden developments over the last 24 hours.

“While at this point I have healthy skepticism that this offer will change the situation and it will be several days before we can fully determine its credibility, I do know that it never would have been floated if the Senate Foreign Relations Committee had not approved the authorization for the use of force last week,” Sen. Bob Corker, ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said in a statement.

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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/09/obama-takes-credit-for-syrias-apparent-surrender.php


Updated to add:

Kerry said the so-called Russian proposal emerged from talks between the president and Putin and Kerry and his counterparts that were happening before Monday's round of public statements.

"This is not something that suddenly emerged. Though it did publicly," Kerry said.

The alternative explanation: Kerry spoke off the cuff and Russia took him up on it.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/10/syria-crisis-iran-backs-russia-chemical-weapons-plan-live#block-522f39a3e4b0c9a06407daf0

Syria conflict: France to float tough UN resolution
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023636040

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White House Takes Credit For Syria’s Apparent Concession (updated) (Original Post) ProSense Sep 2013 OP
Kick! n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #1
I'm glad to cheer it on, too Aerows Sep 2013 #2
Every bit of positive news is welcomed. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #5
It really is Aerows Sep 2013 #7
. ProSense Sep 2013 #27
:D Aerows Sep 2013 #28
Dems should have known that THIS president and THIS Sec of State blm Sep 2013 #3
Warmonger!!!...Oh..Wait... Skraxx Sep 2013 #4
Sorry to interupt the 2naSalit Sep 2013 #6
Meh. We would still be badass on half the DOD budget. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #18
Public Opinion: most powerful weapon evah! leftstreet Sep 2013 #8
Perhaps President Obama will win another Peace Prize for this. n/t hughee99 Sep 2013 #9
It would be well-deserved. nt NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #19
i'm glad the attack was diverted Enrique Sep 2013 #10
This news is great, let's see it to reality! PrestonLocke Sep 2013 #11
Clearly all the credit goes to Rand Paul and Alan Grayson Johonny Sep 2013 #12
Some of the credit definitely goes to them and the rest of the world's peoples who refused JDPriestly Sep 2013 #15
It really is, and I give credit where credit is due. n/t Aerows Sep 2013 #23
Of course they do. They take credit for the Cowboys win over the Giants and Nadal's US Open win, too Roland99 Sep 2013 #13
This is great news. A real first. Wonderful. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #14
No one can argue threat of force was not the driver. cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #16
Talk with force openly Iliyah Sep 2013 #17
The Obama administration should be careful with this ... CRH Sep 2013 #20
White House Takes Credit For Syria’s Apparent Concession ehcross Sep 2013 #21
K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #22
K&R Aerows Sep 2013 #24
Hell, yeah. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #25
I'm very happy for Obama to take the credit for a peaceful solution. last1standing Sep 2013 #26
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
2. I'm glad to cheer it on, too
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:39 AM
Sep 2013

This was a showing of a deft hand, and I applaud the Obama Administration for it!

I'm critical, but I will always point out with pride when good decisions are made.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
7. It really is
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:21 PM
Sep 2013

And I may seem harsh to you, but I am guided by belief and policy. Thank you for pointing out how I can be on board with policy.

blm

(113,040 posts)
3. Dems should have known that THIS president and THIS Sec of State
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:46 AM
Sep 2013

are not war hawks even though they have to BE muscular at times.

There is no way either man would choose war over diplomacy, nor would they fear using military force when the door closes on their diplomatic efforts.

2naSalit

(86,524 posts)
6. Sorry to interupt the
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:19 PM
Sep 2013

get out of warmongering free pass fest but a key point here is:

“In our view, the only reason this is now being seriously discussed by the Russians is because of the threat of U.S. military action,”


Excuse me but, to me, it sounds like they're saying... "Well, we may not be using the bombs today but we have to keep our military ready to blast anyone who doesn't see us as the badasses we proclaim to be and even though they hate us for our freedom, as long as we can threaten them with bombs and drones, we'll be the top dog."

It's another ad campaign for not cutting DoD funding so we can maintain our bully pulpit, we've heard many versions of this for so long now that it's become rote.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
18. Meh. We would still be badass on half the DOD budget.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:14 PM
Sep 2013

'Specially with O-man in da white house!

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
10. i'm glad the attack was diverted
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:25 PM
Sep 2013

i'm not going to join in the celebration of the wonders of belligerence however.

Johonny

(20,829 posts)
12. Clearly all the credit goes to Rand Paul and Alan Grayson
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:41 PM
Sep 2013

for their tough "It isn't any of our business, it is too expensive, we can't do any good, it is too dangerous, the rest of the world isn't doing anything, Obama isn't working with other countries, there is no evidence of chemical weapons blah blah blah" talk.

Seriously LOL in 2016 to those two guys White House runs.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. Some of the credit definitely goes to them and the rest of the world's peoples who refused
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:47 PM
Sep 2013

to acquiesce to more violence. This is a huge diplomatic victory for Obama, Kerry and their staffs.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
13. Of course they do. They take credit for the Cowboys win over the Giants and Nadal's US Open win, too
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:42 PM
Sep 2013


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. This is great news. A real first. Wonderful.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:46 PM
Sep 2013

It won't solve all the problems in Syria, but it is a big step in quieting the conflict without our really having to take sides militarily.

Just wonderful.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
16. No one can argue threat of force was not the driver.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:48 PM
Sep 2013

It would be a hell of a cooincidence if Syria just picked this week at random to talk about giving up WMD they supposedly didn't even have a few weeks ago.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
17. Talk with force openly
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:59 PM
Sep 2013

behind close doors talk compromise with the country that have the most influence on the butcher, Assad.

Go to congress for a vote knowing that the GOPers/Libertarians will vote against you, i.e. Rand Paul (the tea bagger insanes) alongwith Liberal/Progressive Dems, i.e. Grayson ran the charge against . .

Congress was on vacation and he knew they wouldn't rush back, Pres O using the time to talk secretively, while the congress moan and goan.

Pres O and Kerry played hard ball and of course took tremendous trashing by the corporate media, the RWers whom same BS talking points are regurgitated here on the DU.

CRH

(1,553 posts)
20. The Obama administration should be careful with this ...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:15 PM
Sep 2013

If they can't pass or don't try to pass a resolution with teeth to bite, then Putin and al Assad take two steps back from the table, and Obama looks like a fool.

Obama has already lost this in the eyes of many, for over stepping his political support both national and global. If Putin and al Assad jerk his chain Obama has not a sword but a limp noodle.

It would probably cost him his effectiveness for the remaining three years, a lame duck before his time.

Then his only alternative would be to use presidential precedence to order a unilateral attack. He does this he loses the left, the republicans gut him with impeachment proceedings, as the world laughs.

More can go wrong with this than right.

 

ehcross

(166 posts)
21. White House Takes Credit For Syria’s Apparent Concession
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:24 PM
Sep 2013

The Obama administration undoubtedly has to take credit for having achieved the primary goal that was neutralizing the threat of chemical weapons
in Syria´s stockpiles. Russia´s Putin obviously takes credit too, for having negotiated the deal with Syrians, on terms which are aceptable for everyone. Of course, President Obama´s persistence with his "clear and present threat" of military action eventually lead to a softer stand by Putin.

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
25. Hell, yeah.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:02 PM
Sep 2013

He absolutely deserves credit. Everyone had a role to play in this. I even appreciate the efforts of progressives who were against the war effort, because it escalated the urgency of the matter.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
26. I'm very happy for Obama to take the credit for a peaceful solution.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:17 PM
Sep 2013

Whatever the reality, it will help the cause of peace if leaders believe they can use it to increase their reputations. This goes for Obama, Kerry and Putin.

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