So, new Iphone will have fingerprint scanning

[dixiegrrrrl]

The new iPhone 5C will have what they call a "Touch ID sensor " on the home button, requires your fingerprint (thumbprint?) to activate, instead of a password.
Another name for it... an embedded fingerprint scanner

Think about that for a minute......

ok...how do you like the idea?

How do you like the idea when it spreads to other ID required objects?
Car doors?
ATMs?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57602131-37/apple-iphone-fingerprint-scanner-reportedly-confirmed/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2013/09/08/iphone-5s-to-ring-in-the-new-with-expected-fingerprint-sensing-home-button/

[Nye Bevan]

1. I've had a Vaio laptop with fingerprint scanner for about 3 years.

It's OK, but I usually need to lick my finger a little to make it work, and it often takes 2 or 3 attempts. Still quicker than typing in my password.

I'm guessing that the technology has improved and the iPhone scanner will be much more reliable.

[villager]

2. Heard and was thinking how easy it will be for the NSA to compile its fingerprint database now

...since everyone will be giving them up voluntarily....

[HappyMe]

4. Not everyone.

Only iphone people so far.

[villager]

6. well, so far. Wonder if, in the backlash, a non-fingerprint ID will become a selling point...

...for other devices?

[HappyMe]

7. I have no desire to

buy any kind of smart phone. Mostly because I'm fine without apps, and don't want to be constantly bothered. Besides the fact that I don't have $200+ to buy it plus a monthly bill.

[REP]

14. CA drivers have been giving up fingerprints for years.

[dixiegrrrrl]

23. I got my license in SF in 2000

and was not fingerprinted...
All that must have come about post 9-11, I guess.

[REP]

25. From the CA DMV Site:

How to apply for a driver license if you are over 18
If you are a visitor in California over 18 and have a valid driver license from your home state or country, you may drive in this state without getting a California driver license as long as your home state license remains valid.

If you become a California resident, you must get a California driver license within 10 days. Residency is established by voting in a California election, paying resident tuition, filing for a homeowner’s property tax exemption, or any other privilege or benefit not ordinarily extended to nonresidents.

To apply for an original driver license if you are over 18, you will need to do the following:

Visit a DMV office (make an Appointment(s) for faster service)
Complete application form DL 44 (An original DL 44 form must be submitted. Copies will not be accepted.)
Give a thumb print
Have your picture taken
Provide your social security number. It will be verified with the Social Security Administration while you are in the office.
Verify your birth date and legal presence If your current name no longer matches the name on your birth data/legal presence document, see “True Full Name” and “How to Change Your Name” for more information.
Provide your true full name
Pay the application fee
Pass a vision exam
Pass a traffic laws and sign test. There are 36 questions on the test. You have three chances to pass.(Sample Test)

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#two500

Edit: I got my CADL in 1998 in Mountain View; I was thumb printed. I think they started this in the 80s (it's on the DMV site).

[dixiegrrrrl]

31. It could be that I don't recall the thumb print then

I know I DO recall having finger prints taken when I worked at an inpatient adolescence treatment facility in SF.

Thanks for the memory jog....

[TheMadMonk]

33. Really? Apple is going to compell the provision of ALL 10 FINGERPRINTS,...

...before it will allow you to select one as your "entrance" key? Perhaps they'll conceal this nefarious scheme to collude with Big Brother by assigning each one a number and for extra security require a fingerprint PIN.


Use the same thumb you presented to the DMV and you give the NSA nothing they don't already have.

AFAIK (and I admit this is very much inference from Hollywood) the presence of your thumbprint at a crime scene, is enough to label you a person of interest, but not sufficient (on its own) to compel the provision of the other 9 prints.


Alternately, use any other body part with a persistent pattern of surface ridges and avoid AFIS altogether. Toes might be a bit impractical, but there's the whole arc from the outside tip of the thumb to the pisiform bone (I think read the chart right) to work with.

[onehandle]

3. Banks, car doors, and some ATMs already have fingerprint scanning.

The new iPhone 5S (not the 5C) has a fingerprint scanner, but it's isolated on the device, not uploaded to the cloud.

[dixiegrrrrl]

13. "Banks, car doors, and some ATMs"

I did not know that...
been living in Mayberry for some time now, so do not see what is new in teh Big City.

[Aerows]

5. facepalm

Not this shit again.

[DEMTough]

22. +1

[frazzled]

8. I think it's a great idea (in light of a recent family member's iPhone loss)

So my brother was out on one of his long road-bike trips last week and apparently didn't zip up the pocket of his bicycle jersey all the way. He discovered his wallet and iPhone had dropped out when he returned. You can't cover sixty miles of roads and fields to find it.

The wallet was no biggie, because he was carrying only cash in it. But he was truly freaked about the iPhone. His email and all his work are on it (he's an attorney), and even though he had a security pass, he was very worried that someone might get into it all.

He had it shut down and decided to wait to get the new iPhone this week. He'll be very glad to know that a fingerprint technology, instead of a password, will be on it.

(PS: I don't lock my iPhone with a password, but I probably should.)

[surrealAmerican]

9. So long as there's some sort of provision for using it ...

... if I injure my finger, I've got no problem with it.

[EC]

10. I don't

it lessens the chance of keeping your thumbs...that is if you have anything worthwhile to steal.

[REP]

16. I have had several serious thumb injuries, including a partial severing, and two thumb surgeries

Just having thumbs seems to lessen the chances of my having thumbs.

Just had my second hand surgery on my right thumb 4 weeks ago - four months after a thumb injury that landed me in the hospital for four days with a life-threatening infection. I'm talented.

[EC]

17. well stop it

you need them.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

11. Mark of the BEAST!!! 666!!! oh noes!!!!

isn't this about personal privacy and having a more secure way to keep your private stuff private? uh yeah...I think it is.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. I think there are going to be a lot of rich people with missing hands and fingers.

Just say'n.

[bobthedrummer]

15. I love the way you think dixiegrrrrl, k&r plus a couple of related links

How the NSA Accesses Smartphone Data by Marcel Rosenbach, Laura Poitras and Holger Stark (Der Spiegel Online pdf posted 9-9-13 via Cryptome)
http://cryptome.org/2013/09/nsa-smartphones-en.pdf

The Snowden Affair (National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 436 posted 9-4-13)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB436

[dixiegrrrrl]

24. oh..linkies!

I love learning more, I really do!....

Thank you..and give your drooling beast a pet for me, ya hear?

[justiceischeap]

18. From what I'm seeing on Apple's website

the iPhone 5s will have the fingerprint scanning and the iPhone 5c has the different colors.

[ksoze]

19. The 5S has new faster processors and new camera lens & flash

The colors are moot as most will use a cover anyway.

[justiceischeap]

20. Yes but I bet the 5C will be cheaper than the 5S. nt

[REP]

21. Yes, the 5C is lower-priced model

[MADem]

26. This is not "new" technology. If you don't like it, don't buy one of those overpriced gadgets.

I had to use that technology years ago to access compartmentalized spaces--why is it shocking that it would migrate to civilian applications?

It's TANG for the 21st Century....

[grahamhgreen]

27. Well, the scan will get shared and then the security will be useless.

[Motown_Johnny]

28. The NSA Will Have Everyone's Thumb Print!!! OMG!

You don't need to use it if you don't want to.


Personally, I like the idea. It would be great if I didn't have to carry keys and just used my thumb. The only problems are if you hurt your thumb and have a bandage on it, or if it is cold and you need gloves/mittens.

[HockeyMom]

29. I would very much like this for guns

It would save the lives of little children from irresponsible gun owner parents.

When I worked at a Non-Profit Agency for the Developmentally Disabled in 2005, they had a fingerprint scanner at the front door. All employees were fingerprinted (by law) and had to use that scanner to get inside the building.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

30. Nothing new. I've downloaded fingerprint software for my SO Droid and my Samsung Galaxy S4

It works, another way to get the screen dirty...

[davidn3600]

32. Ever go to Disney World? Turnstyles scan your fingerprint to get in.