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Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:51 PM Sep 2013

MY High School Football Team Sucks

Well its not actually my team its my nieces. And she's not actually on the team she is in the band. Nephew was on the team before he graduated so I basically adopted the team.

The team basically has two goals during a game. One goal is to score at least 7 points before halftime. The other goal is to try to stop the other team from scoring 35 points before halftime. They may have some second half goals i dont know about only because most people leave once the band is done performing at halftime.

I dont know if its the coaching (they have had 3 coaches in 5 years) or the players. To be fair this isnt texas high school football with generations of rednecks who have played for the same high school and people live eat and breathe it. This is north virginia in a neighborhood filled with I.T. techs, engineers and FBI fraud division officers, most of them Asian or Indian. Not a whole lot of truck drivers or road repair guys driving around. So I am guessing that genetics might have something to do with it.

I just dont understand how a team can lose 14-48 week after week and just not get any better.

The band sounds awesome though!

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yesphan

(1,587 posts)
1. Well, there you have it.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:58 PM
Sep 2013

Instead of thinking of the band as half time entertainment, think of the football team as before and after entertainment
for the band.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Took years to realize, but most schools (particularly coaches) overestimate importance of winning.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:01 PM
Sep 2013

I think about coaches telling us that "this game is the most important night of your life," and I want to go back 40+ years and slap them silly.

I think it's cool your niece's team loses, and the band sounds awesome.

Give em a trophy.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
3. Talented atheletes will choose other schools.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:06 PM
Sep 2013

It's really that simple. If your focus is football, you will choose not to attend a school that loses 14-48 every week. I am assuming open enrollment, as is the case in my town. The natural athletes attend the schools with successful athletic programs.

TexasTowelie

(112,121 posts)
5. Take heart that the band is great.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:08 PM
Sep 2013

My high school team had the distinction of being in the same district as two top 10 programs when I went to college. One week we lost to Refugio 42-0 when the game was called at the end of the third quarter due to lightning. The following week we lost to Cuero 73-0.

This was a few years after the team went 0-10 for the season while I was a junior in high school and we only scored 39 points the entire year--less than four points a game on average. We were so pathetic that the band used to play the fight song when we made the initial first down of the game and once that didn't happen until the third quarter.

TlalocW

(15,380 posts)
6. Footbal fields are for band practice!
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:24 PM
Sep 2013

I was in marching band (also concert, pep, and jazz - when you were in one, you were in the others in my small school) for four years in high school, and I sat through every home football game, and I honestly cannot remember us scoring a single touchdown... But then I was a nerd with no school spirit and a smart mouth who would sass back at the football seniors when they called me names like, "band fag," by saying, "You're jealous because the band always covers more yardage than you do."

Fortunately by the time I was a junior, I was as big as anyone on the football team.

Get your niece copies (if they still exist) of the three Harry L. Dinkle, World's Greatest Marching Band Director comic books (Funky Winkerbean character). Our band director had them, and we loved them, and they actually inspired a lot of pride in us. Subject line is the title of one of them. We also adopted the motto, "Music Without Mercy," for the back of our pep band shirts from them.

TlalocW

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
8. Mine is great
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:40 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Last year they were the state academic champions, then later won the state championship - after their stadium burned to the ground just before homecoming.

Home games? What are those? Their "home" games are played 25 miles away.

But yeah. Fishermen, loggers and farmhands... smart fishermen, loggers and farmhands.

It'll be nice when the stadium is rebuilt because it'll be nice for the band to have a place in which to sit out of the rain.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
9. I went to Howards Grove High School...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:45 PM
Sep 2013

(Near Sheboygan, Wisconsin)

Our football team always sucked.

We'd have 6 people in the stands, at Homecoming.
And lose, of course...

Considering we played powerhouses like Oostburg and Kohler, I'm not surprised.

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
10. Fuck winning in HS football.....
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:47 PM
Sep 2013

all that does is create a school that lets athletes get way with not studying, rape and more.
Would you rather have a powerhouse like in Steubenville OH?

Steubenville, Ohio, Football Players Convicted in Rape Trial
http://abcnews.go.com/US/steubenville-football-players-guilty-ohio-rape-trial/story?id=18748493




Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
11. Maybe football isn't the main focus for the kids or for the coaches
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:53 PM
Sep 2013

As the long time girlfriend of a HS football coach, I have been with him through good schools and bad. Alot of the success or failure frankly just falls on whether or not there are talented kids on the team. My guy helps the kids play the best that they can play and tries to make it a positive experience. Also here in Mass anyway, the focus of the schools is not all on football and these kids are required by law, by the schools and by the coaches to keep up their grades, no exceptions, no special treatment.

Sometimes you have a few years where the other teams in your league have kids with natural talent and your school does not. Often times that flip flops throughout the years. He has had teams that never won game and teams that won the superbowl and everything in between. He has had great Asian players (I have fond memories of the huge asian linebacker who ended up with the ball and ran for a touchdown with the biggest oh crap look on his face the entire way) and awful white players. Great muslim players and crappy black players and vice versa on all accounts.

Edit: and that big Asian player....he went onto one of the top engineering schools in the country. Much bigger accomplishment, in my opinion.

It's not always about winning. Don't go to see the team win. Go to cheer the kids on. Applaud them when they come off the field feeling bad. They are kids, they are in school. They aren't there looking for a full ride to the NFL.

Also please remember that when you see a team that is always winning there are kids on that team who's parents moved to that town specifically for the football program because they feel their child is talented. Also those towns attract very good pop warner kids and coaches.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
13. I'm kind of proud that my son's school football team is lousy.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:59 PM
Sep 2013

Its a private K-12 school and they are there to get an education. My son is only 8, but I'd rather instill in him the notion that living the good life, however he defines it, will come through education and not champion sports teams.

And yet, we root for UGA football. Go Dawgs.








MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
14. Band Geeks Win Every Game.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:17 PM
Sep 2013

And then they get to ride on the bus after away games. Good times!

Note: Oboists have great embouchures.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
15. The amazing thing about the US - that anyone without a kid on the team cares about the results
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:28 PM
Sep 2013

I went to an English boarding school, that cared far more about sport than most British schools, but if you asked us "what's the win-loss record for the first XV this year", none of us would have had an idea. The parents certainly wouldn't have known, and you wouldn't expect any without a boy in the team to turn up to watch (although a boarding school, many families didn't live that far away, and most matches were on a Saturday, so they could have, fairly easily).

I really don't think any other country remotely matches the importance that Americans put on high school sports.

clm0805

(14 posts)
16. At least your band doesn't get booed
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 04:29 PM
Sep 2013

My daughter does color guard in her schools marching band. During their last home game they were playing their sister school (the two schools are in the same district) and both bands got booed (sort of). It started when during the other schools band performance one of the other schools students went to our side and did something in front of the student section that caused them to boo during the bands performance (which was stopped by school staff). Since the student body of the other school didn't see what happened they decided it would be a good idea to retaliate during our bands performance only louder and longer. The other schools band director had to go over and tell them to stop booing and I don't know what exactly he said but that whole side students and parents did give the band a standing ovation when it was over. Afterwards, the bands both apologized to each other and I know were embarrassed by what both student bodies did. As far as I'm concerned all involved made both schools the teams and the district look bad. I also only go to the games to see the band. Best part of the games.

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